[X] My Assistant

It's called "credits from killing enemies."

I for one like this update...

First Montage...

Before
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Staff 0.24
Cloth 0.68

Gain for the run
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Staff 0.8587
Cloth 0.8774

After
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Staff 1.10
Cloth 1.56

Cloth doubled and Staff quadruple plus. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Of course as a Power Mage, my Staff is far more valuable (and used as) a magic enhancer, rather than a monster whacker.

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and the Credit Bonus killing helped me...

2009-08-25 09:01 +460 Event Credits G☆ + Bonus
2009-08-26 06:34 +400 Event Credits G☆
2009-08-27 04:35 +500 Event Credits G☆ (New) Yay! +40 Credits.

(Of course, I rarely convert GP, sell HatH, or do Arenas so, Dawn was pretty much my only use of my Credit Bonus.)

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Aura changes boosted my Power by +2, I did lose some EXP bonus but, that is easily replaced.

Not sure if anyone posted this before but there is a bug about the proc flashing icon. Given not a major one but just weird.

I wasn't paying attention to the log but it looks like if your off-hand proc skills while it killed the monster, the icon won't go away.

This post has been edited by eushully: Aug 27 2009, 10:30

Training for increasing the time of montage would be helpful for me so I can sleep a little longer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

If you sleep more than eight hours, you're doing something wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Stackable to 100%, right?

Right.

Do those auras also give you the color aura bonuses such as evade boost?

No, they give the HP/MP/Regen bonuses instead.

New? In the past month I've uploaded almost ~300 dojins, none of them "new", just stuff I found over the past 10 years (about half replaces, half new stuff). I don't actually know where some peope get this "new" stuff, but I am doing quite well with the "old" stuff, and I am most certainly not done uploading stuff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) So my advice is - try to synchronize your collection with HV and you may be quite positively surprised (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Very true. There are as of right now 31,820 doujinshi on Galleries, dupes and multiple languages and all. I know for a fact that there are very many more doujinshi floating around than this. But of course if all you have is torrented and massively spread collections that "everybody" have, you might not be able to find anything. In which case it's always possible to put some effort into it, and and create some quality collections of particular characters/series/themes, some of the better ones of those packs are doing very well for themselves.

Weeell.... maybe it will, maybe it won't. Many tens of hours I've spend in the re-up vigi thread (as indicated by my toplist cleanup position, which wou)ld be so much nicer if it gave me creds or hath instead of exp) earned me maybe 4k karma and 0 creds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But since we all know how uber useful karma is, I am certainly not complaining (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But seriously: could we have an option (in settings or such) to chose what do we want to get for being in the toplist? I'd take anything instead of the exp gain (I actually don't want to level fast): creds, gp, hath...anything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Considering Snowflake started dishing out items for the monthly top 7 placings last month, it's not impossible that I'll keep tweaking those rewards. But you probably can't choose to get something else *instead* of the EXP.

While instant heal is a nice boost for finishing the arena, I don't think that the increased chance in getting the equips is worth the risk of loosing all that creds (btw, what was that chance before?). I've done 8 arenas since the change and gotten no equipment. So I'd like to suggest that something needs to be done to make the arena risk worth it more for mid-level players.

The lower arenas were as low as 1%.

That said, having tested maxed haste, I still consider it useless and will drop it from the next build. It's simply too expensive (1.5 cure/shield or 2 infernos...). I asked recently on the forums about haste and all who bothered to reply agree its crap - so perhaps the spell could get a facelift like shield/barrier did in the future in some shape or form...? Slow could probably use it, too; personally I consider weaken and sleep poor choices too - but than I am the guy who loves poison, so maybe you shouldn't listen to me that seriously (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It probably will, but I've been looking at a couple spells at a time.

Lastly: there still is some tiny credit bonus I am getting from areans (5%). I just cannot figure out where is it coming from, as I have no hath credit perks and everything else was supposed to get nerfed?

You're not forgetting about the credits you get from the mobs in the last round? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The trouble with giving something else than EXP for toplist positions is, that many people who don't like to do it, don't know how to do it, and don't care if it's done right will start doing it for the Credits/GP/whatever - and wrong galleries will be expunged, and wrong tags will be tagged, and people will form unofficial self-help groups to vote them up/expunged them for the points, no matter if they're supposed to be expunged or not. And people who have been doing it before there were any rewards will likely not be able to clean up after this.

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About the millions of tags in the system - I'm guessing the majority of them would only be tagged once, on one gallery. And majority of them will be absolutely crap, unneccessary things no one will ever search for.

What if you could add a link to galleries somewhere, that, when clicked, would provide a list of some twenty randomly chosen tags, each of which is only tagged in one gallery? I don't know how hard it would be to get such information from database. For example, this gallery has only 2 tags: 'moron', and 'really only 3 pics', both of which only tag this one gallery. If the search chose those two, it would show:

moron
really only 3 pics

and when clicked, it would get me to the gallery page, where I could check if the tag makes any sort of sense, and possibly vote it down.

If people could access such page, possibly the amount of tags could be quickly brought down to more reasonable number?

when i did my arenas today i got 2 pieces of equipment in the first 2 arenas

id say its just luck of the draw

That trouble is exactly why I mentioned the part about linking tags visibly to names (non-retroactive to save the hassle). This way people whom are abusing the system would be more readily identified and could be taken care of easier, which would help the system even in its current state. I don't think I have to mention how bad it can get when a 1 power user starts typing in random combinations of letters and numbers, or tagging it with a series that's completely off base (such as tagging, say, an Ichigo Marshmallow doujin with Gurren Lagann).

Anyway, other the my gear now being total crap for stats the update was rather good, hopefully the proficiency helps increase it a bit though, since even at ~33/46 my leather armor is hardly seeing any dramatic increases (though they are only barely noticeable). I'm guessing the stat point gains such as dex and agi are also affected by proficiency as well.

Edit: No, it's Quartermaster (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Dndestroy: Aug 27 2009, 11:31

If you sleep more than eight hours, you're doing something wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

At least you can consider about it so we have more time to do something else besides HV. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Ten you sly dog, you just made the sell prices go up to 1/5th the buy prices for reg items :X

Edit: Also, aside from the whole credit change thing there's only one thing that I dislike about this patch (yay for my shield about to last 20 turns and absorb 12 damage) and that would be the mana second winds. It's not so much the value, as that one was the one that was off cause it measured the valued differently than the hp one, but more the frequency. It was bad enough before that almost all my second winds were hp...but with hp being even more frequent I can't do cakefest as much....that said that'll change once I get absorb. I was one of the "lucky" few that actually trained supportive instead of just tank with heavy armor and cure~

This post has been edited by Dndestroy: Aug 27 2009, 11:53

Ahhh I've been looking forward to doing my arena's for the equipment but I did the first 10 and got nothing, even with the first few on nightmare, and then heroic etc, and with my 9 levels in scavenger 3 in luck of the draw 3 in quartermaster(+%15) and 1 in archi.


Damn statistics.

Should I do #11? I'm really not sure if it'd make it, it's a big jump in difficulty.

@Tenb: would you consider increasing the power of regen or decreasing its mana cost (preferably the first option)? On a good roll I can use cure for 500 health, though more usually it earns high 400's. But regen is generally earning me low 500's, and it costs more than 1.5x cure to use...
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Mmm, I've to check mine, thanks.

If you sleep more than eight hours, you're doing something wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Before E-H I sleep 10-12 hours/day, 6 when I've to go to work;
now... 7-8 hours/day if I'm lucky, but if I've to go to work I sleep only 3-4 hours...
Are you try to killing me? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

when i did my arenas today i got 2 pieces of equipment in the first 2 arenas

id say its just luck of the draw

If so, my luck of the draw is broken... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Please fix it! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Tenboro, your fine works have amazed me,

I'm truly impressed with how much HV has evolved in my short time being here.
I look forward to many wonderful improvements to come; I love it every step of the way!

Combat is much tougher, but I basically wasn't taking damage before except from crits and spells so this is balanced.

Is there any benefit to wielding 2-handed weapons? The multi-enemy hit doesn't trigger that often, and doesn't trigger at all if there is a corpse between targets.

Looking at only single-use or rare tags would probably still be tough to weed through, since some of the most useful tags are for alternate artist/circle names.

23 8 You have been defeated.
23 7 Blue Hedgehog hits you for 60 crushing damage.
23 6 Amphibious Sperm Whale hits you for 48 crushing damage.
23 5 Giant Panda hits you for 34 slashing damage.
23 4 Spin Attack crits you for 181 crushing damage.
23 3 Blue Hedgehog uses Spin Attack

0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=14 (Blue Hedgehog) LV=48 HP=1150 MP=123 SP=38 NA=91 Type=hostile
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=12 (Manthra) LV=49 HP=1232 MP=125 SP=39 NA=89 Type=hostile
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=26 (Amphibious Sperm Whale) LV=50 HP=590 MP=103 SP=33 NA=91 Type=hostile
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=2 (Tentacle Monster) LV=49 HP=520 MP=125 SP=34 NA=93 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=1 (Green Slime) LV=48 HP=495 MP=123 SP=30 NA=93 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=5 (Giant Panda) LV=51 HP=540 MP=110 SP=31 NA=93 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #11 (Round 9 / 9) ...
0 0 Battle Start!


SHIT!

Mana Elixer gone and I had 145 MP left!!! ARGH

I think that as for now the montage training does close-to-nothing improvements. Needing a tweak?

The trouble with giving something else than EXP for toplist positions is, that many people who don't like to do it, don't know how to do it, and don't care if it's done right will start doing it for the Credits/GP/whatever - and wrong galleries will be expunged, and wrong tags will be tagged, and people will form unofficial self-help groups to vote them up/expunged them for the points, no matter if they're supposed to be expunged or not. And people who have been doing it before there were any rewards will likely not be able to clean up after this.

This is also of course something I take into account.

About the millions of tags in the system - I'm guessing the majority of them would only be tagged once, on one gallery. And majority of them will be absolutely crap, unneccessary things no one will ever search for.

Well, there are about.. 42320 unique tags in the system. Of those, 24642 have only been tagged once.

What if you could add a link to galleries somewhere, that, when clicked, would provide a list of some twenty randomly chosen tags, each of which is only tagged in one gallery? I don't know how hard it would be to get such information from database. For example, this gallery has only 2 tags: 'moron', and 'really only 3 pics', both of which only tag this one gallery. If the search chose those two, it would show:

The database isn't really indexed to provide that kind of lookups (crunching the query for the numbers above took about a minute), and I don't think the tradeoff in additional update cost and index space requirements would be offset by the value it would provide.

and that would be the mana second winds. It's not so much the value, as that one was the one that was off cause it measured the valued differently than the hp one, but more the frequency. It was bad enough before that almost all my second winds were hp...but with hp being even more frequent I can't do cakefest as much....that said that'll change once I get absorb. I was one of the "lucky" few that actually trained supportive instead of just tank with heavy armor and cure~

Actually the frequency change was reverted some time yesterday, I just didn't revise the patch notes. It still uses base vitals though.

KIlla: "when i did my arenas today i got 2 pieces of equipment in the first 2 arenas"

I found 4 successive items, but got killed at "A new beginning" lvl10 arena...can't afford to keep trying until I clear it, shame.

Good morning all, well I've confermed that you can train & do a montage. Started training then montage & both were done this morning (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
@ Tenboro, does montage cooldown block hourly battles? When I logged on to the gallery page, the hourly was blocked by montage, even though the montage was actually finished and the cooldown had started.

This post has been edited by dlhmmr: Aug 27 2009, 14:31

Note that the system now also scales interference and burden with level (it didn't before), so if you don't keep your proficiency up you will in fact be penalized. This scaling is at about half the rate of the proficiency reduction, so a proficiency of half your level would equal where you used to be.

Great. Now I have to catch up with the people who already maxed their proficiencies through millions of rounds of Cakefest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Time to try out that Montage thingie, I reckon.

I also notice the attribute bonuses on my equipment have gone down. Except for the Sapphire stuff I bought, which has improved a bit... but now gets scaled down a lot more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

But on the other hand... I still seem to be managing about as well as I was before, and things can only improve when I do get my proficiencies up. And it was nice to get 3 free ability points. Now I (probably) won't have to reset them if I want to get more spells as soon as I reach the next level. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Edit: Arrrgh, my power went down! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

This post has been edited by Sayo Aisaka: Aug 27 2009, 14:59

@ Tenboro, does montage cooldown block hourly battles? When I logged on to the gallery page, the hourly was blocked by montage, even though the montage was actually finished and the cooldown had started.

Like with training, you're still technically in a montage until you visit the Montage page again, it just uses some trickery to backdate the start of the cooldown.