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post Aug 27 2009, 01:52
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QUOTE(cmal @ Aug 27 2009, 01:25) *

Pffft, even if we are wearing plate, magic hurts a stupid lot. Nothing really helps with that. Only thing you can do is not get hit and block.


Like this?

12 6 Global Warming hits you for 0 fire damage.
12 5 The hostile spell is drained. You gain 33 Magic Points.
12 4 Manbearpig casts Global Warming

:3

Also john. I'm not saying go do this and that, just that there's lots of different ways to get credits.
Sell hath :3 Don't have hath but can draw ? Make sigs on demand :3 Can drag but not making sigs? enter in the banner contest. Help out, write faqs, do something for the benefit of the community and people will reward you for it.

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post Aug 27 2009, 01:58
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*crys* that was beautiful
cyriel

i just keep telling people to sell infusions if there so short on money
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:06
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QUOTE(Cyriel @ Aug 26 2009, 19:52) *

Like this?

12 6 Global Warming hits you for 0 fire damage.
12 5 The hostile spell is drained. You gain 33 Magic Points.
12 4 Manbearpig casts Global Warming

:3

Yes, exactly like that. TBH, I'm thinking of just ditching Barrier once Absorb become available. 20 points knocked off 120 damage is still 100 damage. Gonna wait and see what MOAR PROFICIENCY does. Shield is still sorta useful when you're a fridge. Still no verdict yet on Shadow Veil.
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:09
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A big chunk of my dawn credits are gone. Can I at least have those back?

That's the reason I adopted slots and saved for so long, to get hath so I could get more credits, etc. What a letdown.
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:19
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QUOTE(cmal @ Aug 27 2009, 02:06) *

Yes, exactly like that. TBH, I'm thinking of just ditching Barrier once Absorb become available. 20 points knocked off 120 damage is still 100 damage. Gonna wait and see what MOAR PROFICIENCY does. Shield is still sorta useful when you're a fridge. Still no verdict yet on Shadow Veil.

Try not to drop barrier.
I almost did but you'll get raped if it doesn't trigger (yes absorb isn't 100%) And be prepared to get like no returns unless your proficiency is sick high. (currently costs 30 for me, so 33 returned was lucky because usually i get far less than the cost)
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:19
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 26 2009, 05:54) *

- Clearing an Arena will now also fully restore your HP and MP.
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Thanks for solving that little problem. No SP restore is fair too since people should only be using it as a bailout.


QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 26 2009, 06:24) *
The point of the patch wasn't to reduce the amount of "good" credits but to get rid of some money printing loopholes.
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 26 2009, 06:32) *

I'm not sure I like your tone, but no. The primary reason I removed them was to plug a loop involving the Hath Exchange, where you'd sell Hath for GP, convert them at a high rate, and buy Hath for the credits you got. The math I did on the transaction history indicated a fairly enormous ROI, but I didn't bother to analyze if anyone were actually doing it.
I tested it with a couple of auctions a few months back, and it really did give a high ROI, especially with all the credit boosts floating around. But if you did if for that, what happens to all my precious legit geepees? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 26 2009, 07:42) *

Note that I made more further changes to the GP exchange, the base rate is now half of what it used to be before the patch. Together with the lowered "conversion bump" the vast majority (and quite possibly everyone) will get more Credits for a GP now than before the patch.
Oh I think I can love you again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

That is, if I actually see the exchange sink back to the 10-11 range at some point. There's no way I'll still get as many credits as before though without the bonuses. Not unless you plan to have the exchange back as low as 8:1.
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:26
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Is it just me or did the credit reward for normal grindfesting also decrease? I seem to get like 2/3 - 3/4 of yesterdays reward.
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:27
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Tenboro: Any chance that we could get an option in somewhere like the settings screen to turn off the confirm pop-up in the arena? I really dislike having to confirm that I want to play a specific arena. (Maybe something for a future version of HV?)
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:28
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Lol sleep.

6 2 Green Slime is asleep.
6 1 Green Slime dodges your attack.
5 4 Green Slime is asleep.

Might be a one time thing, but I found it funny nonetheless.
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:30
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 26 2009, 02:18) *

-- Rainbow Aura increases all regen rates by 50%

This actually makes me consider saving up for Rainbow instead of Black or White. Getting three skill points for a 9% boost in HP or MP will take a lot less time than getting 200 Hath for the 10% boost from one of those auras.
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:34
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Can you do a montage while you are training?
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:37
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I just came from the arena right now and it was boring. The credit bonuses were something I really looked forward to and without those it's not really interesting anymore. I'm going to go watch TV.
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:44
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 26 2009, 02:18) *

- Clearing an Arena will now also fully restore your HP and MP.

This makes training a little easier, too. When the last monster is mostly dead, I just spam shield until I'm out of MP and then bonk it over the head. I get all the MP back right way.
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:55
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QUOTE(Hairs' Fan @ Aug 27 2009, 01:08) *

That's because you need to create 2 blank lines to actually show a blank line in a wiki page, and since the wiki engine seems to remove the trailing blank lines when you submit an edited content, and you have edited each section one by one, the engine removed the final blank line between the section you had edited and the next one. To avoid such a problem, edit the whole page instead of specific sections of the page (or maybe, find out how to specify a specific margin for the section titles).

BTW, I've fixed it for you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Thanks! I updated the Spectral Auras too and it worked well as you described above.
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:56
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Monsters can resist while sleeping now.
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post Aug 27 2009, 02:56
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QUOTE(dlhmmr @ Aug 27 2009, 02:34) *

Can you do a montage while you are training?


I don't know, but when you do a montage I can't do anything, also trainng (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ... do a montage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) it sounds quite funny in my language... ROFL

QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Aug 27 2009, 02:37) *

I just came from the arena right now and it was boring. The credit bonuses were something I really looked forward to and without those it's not really interesting anymore. I'm going to go watch TV.


I clear the first 7 arenas (Hell, hell, nightmare, heroic, hard, normal and normal) do 5/7 round of grindfest (cake) and I gain 300 credit. I fell very sad, Yesterday after do the same thing I've gain more or less 1/2k credit, plus my D.E. bonus credit is -1k among yesterday.

But there's always the good face of medal (<--- I do not know if this phrase exists in English), I gain a lot of exp. (13k more or less)
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post Aug 27 2009, 03:00
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Aug 26 2009, 19:37) *

I just came from the arena right now and it was boring. The credit bonuses were something I really looked forward to and without those it's not really interesting anymore. I'm going to go watch TV.



instead you can use the arena to get equipment now 10% chance per arena complete (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

EDIT: as long as you start the training before the montage they should work at the same time

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post Aug 27 2009, 03:06
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Is there any reason I can only pick from the fire-type spells?
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post Aug 27 2009, 03:08
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QUOTE(funkafied @ Aug 26 2009, 20:06) *

Is there any reason I can only pick from the fire-type spells?

Because you are only level 9, so you only have the first set of skills. You'll get the next batch at 10, then 20, etc etc.
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post Aug 27 2009, 03:12
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Another thing I've noticed. Since your new HP and MP from a level up don't get calculated until after your next page load, completing an Arena and leveling at the same time will leave you a few points under your maximum HP and MP.

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QUOTE(Panuru @ Aug 26 2009, 20:44) *

This makes training a little easier, too. When the last monster is mostly dead, I just spam shield until I'm out of MP and then bonk it over the head. I get all the MP back right way.

Great minds think alike? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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