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Hey Tenboro I'm curious, is the parry chance for an offhand weapon applied constantly or is it similar to the way the offhand weapon attack procs? Or perhaps it's not applied at all or only applied to a certain percent?

Attack success = Hit chance - dodge chance - parry - block - evade - chance to apply offhand parry
OR
Attack success = Hit chance - dodge chance - parry (including offhand) - block - evade

'Cause it's probably not applied in that order, or even remotely like that, but you get the picture. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thanks, I'll be patient

If you try some battles with the gear you think you should be able to cast spells in now, it should log everything I need.

Hey Tenboro I'm curious, is the parry chance for an offhand weapon applied constantly or is it similar to the way the offhand weapon attack procs? Or perhaps it's not applied at all or only applied to a certain percent?

Attack success = Hit chance - dodge chance - parry - block - evade - chance to apply offhand parry
OR
Attack success = Hit chance - dodge chance - parry (including offhand) - block - evade

'Cause it's probably not applied in that order, or even remotely like that, but you get the picture. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You mean if the offhand has parry? It's just added to the total parry pool you see under Statistics.

You mean if the offhand has parry? It's just added to the total parry pool you see under Statistics.

Excellent! Exactly what I wanted to hear!

I am loving heavy armor right now. Most attacks do nothing to me, which makes up for the reduced accuracy, reduced action speed and inability to hit with spells that target an enemy. Mid-bosses and some of the normal enemies still do damage, and magic-based attacks still hurt, but its nothing I can't handle now.

And hitting two enemies is a godsend. Thanks much.

Did monster evade go up or something? Been missing a lot with my physical attacks lately (87%+26.6%) and it was getting rather...annoying yet odd :X

The only thing I changed was "Physical Mitigation" and "Magical Mitigation".

I guess it was the mob's Magic Mitigation that was raping my spells since I can cast Depreciating again with decent consistency.

Did monster evade go up or something? Been missing a lot with my physical attacks lately (87%+26.6%) and it was getting rather...annoying yet odd :X

The way weapon hit chance works was changed. It used to be hit_base + hit_equip - evade, now it's err.. (1 - ((1 - (hit_base - evade) / 100) * (1 - hit_equip / 100))) * 100 %.

yeah - i noticed i miss a LOT now.

Hmm...now to figure out how much evade the enemy has cause using an evade of 10% it's coming out with me having a 103% chance to hit them (which, oddly, is the same as the first formula). Either that or I'm doing the math wrong and the original number of 54% chance to hit was right >_>

edit: Or I was doing it wrong and it turned out to be 83% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I hate math that deal with percentages...

This post has been edited by Dndestroy: Aug 21 2009, 18:16

I'm missing a bunch too...wondering if it was my burden. That clears it up.

And @Blutkaefer how do you attack two enemies at once?

Hmm...now to figure out how much evade the enemy has cause using an evade of 10% it's coming out with me having a 103% chance to hit them (which, oddly, is the same as the first formula). Either that or I'm doing the math wrong and the original number of 54% chance to hit was right >_>

edit: Or I was doing it wrong and it turned out to be 83% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I hate math that deal with percentages...

Easier said.. the equipment hit chance bonus reduces miss chance by a percentage of the remainder after the base has been calculated. So if you have 20% chance to miss normally, 25% hit bonus on gear will reduce the miss chance by 25% of 20%, or 5%. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

When are achievements coming out COLONROLLEYESCOLON

Yea, figured that's how it worked...just that I never tend to be able to get the same correct answer twice even when using a calculator....maybe that's why I ended up with a D in Calc XD

When are monthly subscription fees being introduced COLONROLLEYESCOLON

Thats even more you. :3

The way weapon hit chance works was changed. It used to be hit_base + hit_equip - evade, now it's err.. (1 - ((1 - (hit_base - evade) / 100) * (1 - hit_equip / 100))) * 100 %.

emm... so weapon now affects only miss chance(eg 50% hit chance from weapon divide miss chance by 2)?

edit: damn... finally you answered it while i was writind question (=

edit2: what actually "parry" is(i'm asking how can i use it)? it is smthg special for weapon type/fighting style or what?

This post has been edited by PandAGruel: Aug 21 2009, 18:37

Parry is just another form for evasion, it's basically blocking with a sword.

I just ended up goin with a dagger and throwing my weapon hit over 55% :X

Parry is just another form for evasion, it's basically blocking with a sword.

so i should use a sword to parry? is it smthg additional like bleeding and stun?

This post has been edited by PandAGruel: Aug 21 2009, 18:41

Hey Tenboro, just a question about Mutant Peacocks and their Peck spell.

It seems to cost then only a small fraction of their mana (15%?)and seems to be as effective as other monster's spells which cost around 50% mana pool.

Well, that didn't really turn out to be a question, more like an observation.

It's basically a just like a shield's block, but you can't parry spells. But yea, the higher your parry is, the more overall evasion you'll have...and even with 55% hit from weps I still miss cake mode mobs a fairly large amount, about 1 in 5 attacks are dodged...><

Oh, and it's not like bleed or stun, it's like evasion on armor, it's something that happens to yourself, not procs off of a hit. If anything, you could say it procs off of the mob's hit. Just think of it as another "dodge" in the battle log.

This post has been edited by Dndestroy: Aug 21 2009, 18:53

@Tenboro, I couldn't try it right away, I had to blaze to a Physical therapy appt. but here is the result. I do now have attack magic but the stats page still shows 0, even with no heavy armor, here is the battle result.

8 7 You gain 17 Credits!
8 6 You gain 264.02 EXP!
8 5 Amphibious Sperm Whale dropped [Average Health Draught]
8 4 Blue Slime dropped [Godly Health Potion]
8 3 You are Victorious!
8 2 Blue Slime has been defeated.
8 1 You hit Blue Slime for 103 slashing damage.
7 2 Blue Slime hits you for 39 crushing damage.
7 1 You hit Blue Slime for 105 slashing damage.
6 4 Blue Slime hits you for 28 crushing damage.
6 3 Amphibious Sperm Whale has been defeated.
6 2 Your offhand hits Amphibious Sperm Whale for 61 slashing damage.
6 1 You hit Amphibious Sperm Whale for 104 slashing damage.
5 5 You dodge the attack from Blue Slime.
5 4 You gain 0.02 points of light armor proficiency.
5 3 Amphibious Sperm Whale hits you for 39 crushing damage.
5 2 Amphibious Sperm Whale dodges your attack.
5 1 You gain 0.01 points of dual wielding proficiency.
4 7 You dodge the attack from Blue Slime.
4 6 Effect Searing Skin on Blue Slime has expired.
4 5 Searing Skin hits Blue Slime for 26 damage.
4 4 Amphibious Sperm Whale hits you for 53 crushing damage.
4 3 Effect Searing Skin on Amphibious Sperm Whale has expired.
4 2 Searing Skin hits Amphibious Sperm Whale for 23 damage.
4 1 Amphibious Sperm Whale dodges your attack.
3 10 Blue Slime hits you for 37 crushing damage.
3 9 Searing Skin hits Blue Slime for 26 damage.
3 8 Bukkake hits you for 52 soul damage.
3 7 Amphibious Sperm Whale casts Bukkake
3 6 Searing Skin hits Amphibious Sperm Whale for 23 damage.
3 5 Inferno hits Amphibious Sperm Whale for 147 fire damage.
3 4 Tentacle Monster has been defeated.
3 3 Inferno hits Tentacle Monster for 87 fire damage.
3 2 Inferno hits Blue Slime for 26 fire damage.
3 1 You cast Inferno.
2 14 Horrible Rape hits you for 109 dark damage.
2 13 Tentacle Monster casts Horrible Rape
2 12 You gain 0.02 points of light armor proficiency.
2 11 Searing Skin hits Tentacle Monster for 25 damage.
2 10 You dodge the attack from Blue Slime.
2 9 Searing Skin hits Blue Slime for 26 damage.
2 8 Bukkake hits you for 49 soul damage.
2 7 Amphibious Sperm Whale casts Bukkake
2 6 Searing Skin hits Amphibious Sperm Whale for 23 damage.
2 5 Amphibious Sperm Whale resists your spell.
2 4 Inferno procs the effect Searing Skin on Tentacle Monster.
2 3 Inferno blasts Tentacle Monster for 131 fire damage.
2 2 Inferno hits Blue Slime for 66 fire damage.
2 1 You cast Inferno.
1 14 Blue Slime hits you for 40 crushing damage.
1 13 Searing Skin hits Blue Slime for 26 damage.
1 12 You dodge the attack from Tentacle Monster.
1 11 Tentacle Monster casts Horrible Rape
1 10 Searing Skin hits Tentacle Monster for 29 damage.
1 9 You dodge the attack from Amphibious Sperm Whale.
1 8 Searing Skin hits Amphibious Sperm Whale for 23 damage.
1 7 Inferno procs the effect Searing Skin on Amphibious Sperm Whale.
1 6 Inferno hits Amphibious Sperm Whale for 60 fire damage.
1 5 Inferno procs the effect Searing Skin on Tentacle Monster.
1 4 Inferno hits Tentacle Monster for 161 fire damage.
1 3 Inferno procs the effect Searing Skin on Blue Slime.
1 2 Inferno hits Blue Slime for 26 fire damage.
1 1 You cast Inferno.
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=26 (Amphibious Sperm Whale) LV=38 HP=450 MP=78 SP=24 NA=93 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=2 (Tentacle Monster) LV=40 HP=422 MP=102 SP=27 NA=95 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=10 (Blue Slime) LV=40 HP=418 MP=90 SP=23 NA=95 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing random encounter ...
0 0 Battle Start!