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Nov 9 2013, 22:34
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memnarch
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QUOTE(Shadow Weaver @ Nov 7 2013, 11:58)  I'm going to put this another way, right now you are begging for something that encourages behavior that can get people banned from tagging.
Then I'm going to put this another way: you are advocating for a system in which a small few decide what is and is not important enough for the larger majority to know. Given that e-hentai focuses on a visual medium, it seems to me that if only tags applicable throughout a gallery are given priority, it's inevitable that tags focusing on the appearance of the characters are more likely to be the ones which fit the "majority rules" standard; and this, as absurd as it may sound, seems rather shallow to me. When I'm reading a visually heavy story, like a manga or comic, what the characters look like is important, sure, but if it's telling a story, what they're doing is equally, if not more, important! A few pages of a fetish can be what makes a manga or doujin stand out from the thousands of vanilla galleries. Could the tags be separated into appearance based and content based sections? I just feel like something vital is lost, or at least marginalized, under the current system.
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Nov 9 2013, 22:43
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Drksrpnt
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To be honest, this argument/debate has been done to death already. Just look at the comments on this gallery. And that's from a year and a half ago. They didn't change their minds then, they're not going to change their minds now, no matter what anyone says. Edit: Also, they're soon going to bring out the "If you don't cooperate we'll ban you from tagging" card. Because if you can't win an argument, use your moderator powers to make it not even matter, right? This post has been edited by Drksrpnt: Nov 9 2013, 22:45
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Nov 9 2013, 23:08
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Nov 9 2013, 12:43)  they're soon going to bring out the "If you don't cooperate we'll ban you from tagging" card. Because if you can't win an argument, use your moderator powers to make it not even matter, right?
Do tell, what powers do I have with which I have ever threatened anyone? Or abused at all? Go right ahead, I'm all ears.
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Nov 9 2013, 23:15
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Drksrpnt
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Nov 9 2013, 16:08)  Do tell, what powers do I have with which I have ever threatened anyone? Or abused at all?
Go right ahead, I'm all ears.
A while back, like a REALLY long while back, you threatened to remove my renaming privileges if I didn't adhere to the naming guidelines in regards to Digital doujinshi from certain comic conventions. Since the credits at the back of the doujin had the date and (C83) there... Even though it was digital, it was still originally published and sold at that convention. And you said something along the lines of "Well, we could just remove your ability to rename things, how about that?" I'm paraphrasing, but that's the gist of it. Edit: Found it!This post has been edited by Drksrpnt: Nov 9 2013, 23:23
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Nov 9 2013, 23:28
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Nov 9 2013, 13:15)  you threatened to remove my renaming privileges if I didn't adhere to the naming guidelines in regards to Digital doujinshi
Well let's see... 1) That is indeed a Renaming rule which came straight from Alpha (who unlike me has complete authority over his territory). 2) Only Tenboro has the power to ban over Renaming, I can only inform him of infractions. I only post phrases like that to remind abusers that their actions can have consequences; seems to be pretty effective. 3) I was recently indirectly threatened over my own renaming privileges, so I have no immunity in that regard.
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Nov 9 2013, 23:40
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Drksrpnt
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Nov 9 2013, 16:28)  Well let's see...
1) That is indeed a Renaming rule which came straight from Alpha (who unlike me has complete authority over his territory). 2) Only Tenboro has the power to ban over Renaming, I can only inform him of infractions. I only post phrases like that to remind abusers that their actions can have consequences; seems to be pretty effective. 3) I was recently indirectly threatened over my own renaming privileges, so I have no immunity in that regard.
1) I wasn't the only one who disagreed with that rule. I still don't see why that rule exists to be honest, and if you check in that thread there were a few people who agreed with me, because it makes sense. 2) Well, how is the normal non-moderator supposed to know that? It's pretty effective because it might as well be a threat. 3) I don't know how to respond to that actually.
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Nov 9 2013, 23:57
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Nov 9 2013, 13:40)  I wasn't the only one who disagreed with that rule.
You have (fairly) high mod power so any misuse from you (or any rallying behind breaking a rule) is far worse. The same principle applies to everyone with high mod power. QUOTE Well, how is the normal non-moderator supposed to know that? Well, I never once said that I was the one banning. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) QUOTE It's pretty effective because it might as well be a threat. Good, it is one and I don't use it lightly. QUOTE I don't know how to respond to that actually. It was over a rule with which I did not agree because it I thought it didn't make sense. Rules are rules, I'm just as liable to follow them as you are. Hence why I take accusations of mod abuse very seriously.
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Nov 10 2013, 06:28
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varst
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QUOTE(memnarch @ Nov 10 2013, 04:34)  Then I'm going to put this another way: you are advocating for a system in which a small few decide what is and is not important enough for the larger majority to know.
Given that e-hentai focuses on a visual medium, it seems to me that if only tags applicable throughout a gallery are given priority, it's inevitable that tags focusing on the appearance of the characters are more likely to be the ones which fit the "majority rules" standard; and this, as absurd as it may sound, seems rather shallow to me. When I'm reading a visually heavy story, like a manga or comic, what the characters look like is important, sure, but if it's telling a story, what they're doing is equally, if not more, important! A few pages of a fetish can be what makes a manga or doujin stand out from the thousands of vanilla galleries.
Could the tags be separated into appearance based and content based sections? I just feel like something vital is lost, or at least marginalized, under the current system.
It's just like judges in real life: it's still a small few decide what is right and what is wrong, but people are okay with it because they're following rules. So that's not the problem. We do have content tags, mind you; tags like kissing, prostitution, netorare, fisting, fingering, etc. So the question is: what content tags do you want? It's difficult to complain just on broad principles without giving some examples of what you want. Also, 'throughout a gallery' is incorrect. Let's pick kissing/fingering for example. We don't require the whole gallery to be a boy kissing another girl, but there are so many galleries with kissing scenes, we'll need to make sure that the content is relevant to those who're searching. That's why you'll need a few pages of kissing scenes in order to give the 'kissing' tag. It's exactly what you said: make the tag relevant instead of making everything like the 'big breast' tag.
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Nov 12 2013, 00:52
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Drksrpnt
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Okay, this shit is EXACTLY what I fucking mean when I say I hate the torrent system. https://e-hentai.org/gallerytorrents.php?gi...mp;t=8e177723b7I posted a torrent on there less than a week ago, and it has TONS of seeds. More than 190 right now. And tenchi20 posted the same fucking torrent there just now. And there's no way to stop that shit from happening. This kind of shit shouldn't be allowed at all. "Oooh, I get tons of fucking downloads because there's no regulation on this system whatsoever!" Yeah, FUCK YOU.
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Nov 12 2013, 00:55
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Maximum_Joe
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Free market! Let the users decide!
See why I never advocate that attitude with tagging?
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Nov 12 2013, 01:05
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Drksrpnt
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Nov 11 2013, 17:55)  Free market! Let the users decide!
See why I never advocate that attitude with tagging?
But there's actually some regulation with that. And that's good, there should be, no matter what the rules are. But there's no rules as far as torrenting goes. Literally just "post, get downloads, done."
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Nov 12 2013, 01:12
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chivoef
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We do expunge some torrents, but it's mostly just stuff on the DNP. Thing is that nobody ends up seeing them unless they're posted in re-up because torrent expunges aren't tracked. I guess you could always hire some gophers and start expunging the duplicates.
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Nov 12 2013, 12:46
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gigano25
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Nov 11 2013, 23:52)  Okay, this shit is EXACTLY what I fucking mean when I say I hate the torrent system. https://e-hentai.org/gallerytorrents.php?...mp;t=8e177723b7I posted a torrent on there less than a week ago, and it has TONS of seeds. More than 190 right now. And tenchi20 posted the same fucking torrent there just now. And there's no way to stop that shit from happening. This kind of shit shouldn't be allowed at all. "Oooh, I get tons of fucking downloads because there's no regulation on this system whatsoever!" Yeah, FUCK YOU. And that is the whole reason why I give up on making torrents for new galleries. And somehow I would advice you do the same thing if you keep getting really annoyed by it. It's either that or just simply go by the mentality of "don't give a fuck" and just join them, because there are no rules about it and everyone aiming for the 1st place on the toplist is doing it.
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Nov 12 2013, 13:57
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Drksrpnt
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QUOTE(gigano25 @ Nov 12 2013, 05:46)  And that is the whole reason why I give up on making torrents for new galleries. And somehow I would advice you do the same thing if you keep getting really annoyed by it. It's either that or just simply go by the mentality of "don't give a fuck" and just join them, because there are no rules about it and everyone aiming for the 1st place on the toplist is doing it.
I have been joining them, kind of. I told tenchi in PM to, you know, please stop doing it when it's been such a short amount of time and there are still plenty of seeds. But yeah, I think that after this year I'll mostly stop doing it. Maybe if I'm in dire need of GP I'll start it again, but I'll probably just start running H@H like all the cool people are doing.
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Nov 15 2013, 16:20
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Necromusume
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Make forum & gallery privileges depending on post count only count one post per day, so people won't benefit from flying through and posting 25 necromantic one-liners in an hour and a half, like this.
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Nov 22 2013, 01:25
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lightshader
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Please offer Hath perk that adds more favorite categories. Number of favorites allowed keeps increasing, but the number of categories hasn't changed; 10 isn't enough for me so let me bump that to 15 or even 20. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 22 2013, 10:44
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malkatmp
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is there a way to quick switch between Normal view & Multi-Page Viewer in the gallery? so i don't have to go to the setting to change it once in a while.
manga is great in Multi-Page, but gifs galleries will just freeze my browser. so a quick switch will be nice.
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Nov 23 2013, 04:13
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blue penguin
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Nov 22 2013, 08:44)  is there a way to quick switch between Normal view & Multi-Page Viewer in the gallery? so i don't have to go to the setting to change it once in a while.
manga is great in Multi-Page, but gifs galleries will just freeze my browser. so a quick switch will be nice. You have the button "Start Multi-Page Viewer" in normal view and the [x] inside the MPV. But if it helps have the script i use for MPV:
mpv_autostart.user.js.zip ( 663bytes )
Number of downloads: 5 You set the galleries to normal view (no MPV) and the script redirects you to the MPV on certain categories only. It should be trivial to update the script to select between categories with MPV and without. Note 1: Do not use this script if you do not have the MPV hath perk, it will render some categories unreachable for you. Note 2: It shall be trivial to adapt it to the dark side of the force. Note 3: It was tested only with firefox+greasemonkey, use with care in chrome. (sorry, i don't use chrome at all)
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Nov 23 2013, 20:15
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dnbdave
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QUOTE(blue penguin @ Nov 22 2013, 21:13)  You have the button "Start Multi-Page Viewer" in normal view and the [x] inside the MPV. But if it helps have the script i use for MPV:
mpv_autostart.user.js.zip ( 663bytes )
Number of downloads: 5 You set the galleries to normal view (no MPV) and the script redirects you to the MPV on certain categories only. It should be trivial to update the script to select between categories with MPV and without. Note 1: Do not use this script if you do not have the MPV hath perk, it will render some categories unreachable for you. Note 2: It shall be trivial to adapt it to the dark side of the force. Note 3: It was tested only with firefox+greasemonkey, use with care in chrome. (sorry, i don't use chrome at all) Finally got MPV and love it, the only thing I'd change is allow zoom in/out browser function for the images in the display pane. Some galleries have crazy small images. QUOTE(dnbdave @ Nov 6 2013, 19:07)  Having some way possible to see what comments you've made (or what galleries commented on) in some sort of list format, like a "maintain galleries" style.
Following on the request above for more favorite categories, maybe to keep system load in check allowing comment search as a perk instead of a general feature might work better. Think either way is feasible Tenboro?
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Nov 24 2013, 08:03
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Jo.To
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Get back the convert GP to Credits feature as well as the old Hate Perks system. Ever since we switched to the Exchange system I still have NO IDEA WTF I'm doing.
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