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It doesn't matter what he's looking for tagging applies equally to all categories. To give him what he wants, someone else, we all know the people who keep requesting these things won't do it, has to do what joe just asked him to do for all galleries.

About the abuse, the ones with the high power are generally the ones preventing abuse by the low powered ones.

Let's say we do it your way, it's a variant on the system before there were rules and the early days of rules. Now you might be happy, but I know I wouldn't be. The reason for the rule is to give the best results. Your way 100 galleries could be as little as 120 images or even less. Our way you are pretty much guaranteed 500+ images in 100 galleries. Which do you think the average person prefers.

I have always said the if you want every image, go to an image site and not a gallery site.

I doubt he's talking about image sets with hundreds of images; he's most likely referring to manga/doujinshi/artistCG/GameCG. Essentially, everything but the "imageset" category.

He already said he sorted it by artist or parody first. Therefore, that imageset is hardly what he's looking for.

Precisely. Image sets are, by their nature, usually centered on a singular theme anyway. And if I'm going to look for individual images, without text, boorus are usually what I'd look at first; only turning to e-hentai if I want to download, say, an entire Game CG set or something.

I'm not so deluded as to think that every single possible piece of relevant content that a gallery contains can be tagged. But to remove tags that can help narrow down someone's search for a gallery containing an uncommon fetish because of the fetish's perceived majority within a doujin or manga seems counter intuitive to me.

The content is there. The tag advertises that it's there for someone who wants to find it. The tag is then downvoted into negative numbers making it harder for someone who wants to find it, to know that it's there to find. What exactly is so wrong with trying to stop something like this from happening?

Precisely. Image sets are, by their nature, usually centered on a singular theme anyway. And if I'm going to look for individual images, without text, boorus are usually what I'd look at first; only turning to e-hentai if I want to download, say, an entire Game CG set or something.

I'm not so deluded as to think that every single possible piece of relevant content that a gallery contains can be tagged. But to remove tags that can help narrow down someone's search for a gallery containing an uncommon fetish because of the fetish's perceived majority within a doujin or manga seems counter intuitive to me.

The content is there. The tag advertises that it's there for someone who wants to find it. The tag is then downvoted into negative numbers making it harder for someone who wants to find it, to know that it's there to find. What exactly is so wrong with trying to stop something like this from happening?

The mentality is "Don't make a suggestion unless you're willing to help enforce it."

Which is fair enough. The main taggers of galleries shouldn't have to work a lot more just to make things easier for, frankly, a minority of people. What they've been doing works, to be honest.

But yeah, I think having that sort of system for every category except imagesets wouldn't really be as much work as they make it out to be.

Personally, I've stopped even bothering to make suggestions to the tagging rules, because they're not likely to change anything any time soon.

Edit: And even if you say you would help, they can't count on that.

It doesn't matter what he's looking for tagging applies equally to all categories.

Why can't tagging apply only to specific categories? There's tagging for only the Asian and Cosplay categories, right? And don't say "oh, that's different", come up with a better reason than that.

This post has been edited by Drksrpnt: Nov 6 2013, 01:37

The cosplay and non-h categories do have modified rules and this is with good reason. We only tag sex sex/nudity, cosplay has a good chance of having none and non-h should have none by it's nature. In fact the non-h did not have any special rules but a change was pushed through. Non-h barely got any tags.

In this case you are asking to exclude a category which has the same type of content with no reasoning behind it. Why would the person who wants the single image in a doujin not want the single image in an image set?

If you want to exclude image sets, what about anthologies. They are usually 200+ images and your tag could apply to a single panel, not even a full image, or even an ad.

What about removing the veto function? That way if the majority of people vote for a tag it will stay tagged.

Or, giving an option to view downvoted tags and vote them back up.

Apologies if already suggested... long thread. If so then let this be a bump for it.

Having some way possible to see what comments you've made (or what galleries commented on) in some sort of list format, like a "maintain galleries" style.

Could also be similar to how Reddit gives an overview of comments on your personal page.

What about removing the veto function? That way if the majority of people vote for a tag it will stay tagged.

Or, giving an option to view downvoted tags and vote them back up.

I'm going to put this another way, right now you are begging for something that encourages behavior that can get people banned from tagging.

What about removing the veto function? That way if the majority of people vote for a tag it will stay tagged.

Or, giving an option to view downvoted tags and vote them back up.

There's already such an option called 'search downvoted tags' in the advanced options.

The veto power is held by a limited number of experienced taggers; you can always check with their reasoning in the tag abuse thread if you're unsure about the decision. This veto power is added as it becomes increasing difficult for taggers to clean up those incorrect tags, and it prevents the same tags to be added again when the gallery's updated.

I just wish there was a way to tag something as all part of a series, and so if you find number 3 of it, you can quickly jump to 1.

While yes, searching downvoted tags is a workaround, not everyone knows to do that; it's not something that's advertised

Seriously, that's probably the dumbest argument I've heard in the past few months.

Okay, to break apart from this tagging nonsense, I have a couple requests of my own:

1.) what if we have a chance to search multiple tags at once instead of just one, and also to omit certain tags that we don't want to search. An example of this feature instated would be the lucious website.

2.) Seperate the non-H category to Ecchi and Normal (or Worksafe, whatever you want to call it) and add a Novel category for novel-based mangas.

1.) what if we have a chance to search multiple tags at once instead of just one, and also to omit certain tags that we don't want to search. An example of this feature instated would be the lucious website.

By this you mean "Searching for galleries with either of these tags, not only both", right?

And you can omit them, just put a - in front of it (e.g. -scat)

Seperate the non-H category to Ecchi and Normal (or Worksafe, whatever you want to call it)

What would be the difference? Also, of all the categories that may see a split, Non-H is NOT one of them considering it was on the chopping block entirely not long ago.

Having some way possible to see what comments you've made (or what galleries commented on) in some sort of list format, like a "maintain galleries" style.

I second this.

Also, my own suggestion:

It would be nice if the main search options could be applied to your favorites collection as well. Maybe just add a search string that would limit results to only your favorite galleries?
This comes in handy when the favorites collection becomes huge, like 400+.

The main problem with downvoted tags is that you can't downvote a tag that hasn't been added yet.
And adding and directly removing a tag again doesn't make the tag show up via downvoted tag search anymore, so that's not viable either.
So, a way to downvote a tag that hasn't been added yet would be great.

So, a way to downvote a tag that hasn't been added yet would be great.

Why?

Why?

Because not being able to do that means if you want to make something findable via downvoted tag search, you have to add the tag normally. And then someone else has to vote it down. (Assuming it's a tag that would not normally be added according to the tagging rules).
Which both produces unnecessary work and puts the first tagger in danger of getting banned from tagging.
Obviously directly downvoting like that should give no toplist points or anything.

This post has been edited by Thot: Nov 8 2013, 16:01

Or you can stop trying to find a work around for a tagging rule the tenboro has endorsed himself (presence) of which there are very few.

Or you can stop trying to find a work around for a tagging rule the tenboro has endorsed himself (presence) of which there are very few.

Considering the basic search function for it is already there and does not interfere with normal search whatsoever, there is no downside to making this possible. At all.

Except if the junk tags end up causing too high a load I may have to remove that function entirely.