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post Jan 11 2011, 02:22
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 10 2011, 18:20) *

That implies to me that there are going to be some changes to snowflake.

Changes seem very likely but it doesn't necessarily have to involve LotFD.
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post Jan 11 2011, 02:25
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 10 2011, 21:22) *

Changes seem very likely but it doesn't necessarily have to involve LotFD.

Don't be a jackass (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'm not going to nitpick on how snowflake is improved as long as she is.

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post Jan 11 2011, 02:25
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 10 2011, 18:22) *

Changes seem very likely but it doesn't necessarily have to involve LotFD.

Tenboro said explicitly in another post to hang onto rare trophies until the next update. I'm not hunting it down though, so you'll have to take my word on it.
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post Jan 11 2011, 02:27
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It was actually in the post where he announced the winners of the Yuletide Lottery and the Gallery awards....he said there that you might want to hold onto Tenbora's Boxes until next update.
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post Jan 11 2011, 02:28
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 10 2011, 18:25) *

Tenboro said explicitly in another post to hang onto rare trophies until the next update. I'm not hunting it down though, so you'll have to take my word on it.

I'm aware of that and I've seen both his posts regarding it. I'm just saying that there are more than one way to change how trophy works without having to use LotD.

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I'm not going to nitpick on how snowflake is improved as long as she is.

I'm not being nit-picky, ever since TB made that announcement I knew that he was planning to implement something that affects trophies one way or the other.
My whole post was about LotD affecting trophies, not that trophies won't change. So if you take that part out, my post would have been pretty meaningless. =P

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post Jan 11 2011, 02:33
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 11 2011, 00:02) *

You earn much more exp on IW than grindfest.
You realize you're 31 levels above me right? It's 15million exp for my current level. I expect it's ~60million exp for you.
Don't we get the same exp from monsters regardless the level? Anyway it's +55 million.
QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 11 2011, 00:02) *
I tried finding the graph for expected exp cost per level but couldn't. Meh.
Here.
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Also, I don't do exquisites; the amount extra from doing that instead of something lesser isn't worth the increased difficulty.
I love 1-shots, it doesn't matter if is flimsy or legendary (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 11 2011, 00:02) *

What difficulty are you doing those exquisites?
Battletoads.
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I'm waiting until the next update in the desperate hopes that snowflake will take LoD into account. And that the rate of cotton and leather dropped will automatically decrease with level.

Then there's my fear that if Tenb does change snowflake, he'll just decrease the base loot value of the trophies and we'll have gotten nowhere (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
You know what I fear? What this really mean:
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 5 2010, 11:29) *

There will indeed be a number of balancing changes in the next patch, but they will only affect equipment generated after the patch. As it looks now, there will be 34 changes to 12 different gear classes.

Sounds a lot like 4.0., and since the monsters got nerfed...
So the possible improvement to snowflake can mean nothing, if the ranges are going to be nerfed again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Jan 11 2011, 02:37
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Let's hope that if they are nerfed that they aren't nerfed by much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 11 2011, 02:38
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Thanks cmdct, I actually never read that post from TB before. I'm glad that he is trying to balance things though. What I fear is nerfing the already nerfed gear. pre-pre-nerf gear anyone? >.>
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post Jan 11 2011, 02:40
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post Jan 11 2011, 02:41
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Great Nerf I and Great Nerf II?

At least we know he can't mess up heavy, its already shit.
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post Jan 11 2011, 02:43
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If he really is balancing equipment, then the shit will likely become gold.





Hopefully.
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QUOTE(alfonx @ Jan 10 2011, 18:40) *

First Ethereal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Last round of Powerflux on normal from a Blue Hedgehog


Great find (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 11 2011, 02:49
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QUOTE(cmal @ Jan 10 2011, 18:41) *

Great Nerf I and Great Nerf II?

At least we know he can't mess up heavy, its already shit.

QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 5 2011, 17:49) *
History shows there's likely to be another soul crushing nerf accompanying any boost to trophies, so I'm less than optimistic.

Quoted for 1st-ness.
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post Jan 11 2011, 02:57
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 10 2011, 21:33) *

Don't we get the same exp from monsters regardless the level? Anyway it's +55 million.

Here.

I love 1-shots, it doesn't matter if is flimsy or legendary (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Battletoads.You know what I fear? What this really mean:


Are you insane? Do you think a lvl5 person earns 12,000 exp per round?

I can't 1shot Battletoads, or anything above Heroic. I don't have awesome equipment of amazingness.

@Hito: if the balancing does make it worse I'm just going to stop. The satisfaction and joy of finding amazing equipment is all that's really keeping me playing.

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post Jan 11 2011, 03:08
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 10 2011, 18:57) *

[b]The satisfaction and joy of finding amazing equipment is all that's really keeping me playing.

Going by that I woulda quit a long time ago.

Number of amazing equipment found: 0
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 11 2011, 00:57) *

Are you insane? Do you think a lvl5 person earns 12,000 exp per round?
I'm speaking about base exp, 45k means 4.5k on normal, but I have like +679% bonus right now, this means the base exp for 9 mobs is around 577 exp. That's what I would expect a l5 person could earn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 10 2011, 22:12) *

I'm speaking about base exp, 45k means 4.5k on normal, but I have like +679% bonus right now, this means the base exp for 9 mobs is around 577 exp. That's what I would expect a l5 person could earn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Still doesn't explain why you're surprised I'm not getting 45K per round. I can last about 4 rounds on battletoads with an exquisite, which is pointless.

I'm not going to calculate my exact exp bonus.

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Going by that I woulda quit a long time ago.

Number of amazing equipment found: 0

Superior Ethereal Something Rapier of the Nimble, from lvl140. Nothing since then. If I don't find something special by 250, or if the next update makes it worse, I'm stopping.

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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 11 2011, 01:21) *

Still doesn't explain why you're surprised I'm not getting 45K per round. I can last about 4 rounds on battletoads with an exquisite, which is pointless.
Well it didn't cross in my mind that you didn't had the exp tanks, exp perks, and you weren't playing BT.
Use/buy scrolls, they're cheap, but well worth the time saved and/or the increase in difficulty.

Edit: Oh and Rob, you'll get surprise in a few minutes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 10 2011, 22:29) *

Well it didn't cross in my mind that you didn't had the exp tanks, exp perks, and you weren't playing BT.
Use/buy scrolls, they're cheap, but well worth the time saved and/or the increase in difficulty.

Edit: Oh and Rob, you'll get surprise in a few minutes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yeah, I don't have any of the exp tanks. I have up to the 3rd EXP perk, I have the black, white, and rainbow auras etc. And again, dong an exquisite equip on battletoads kills me in like 4 turns. I can do crude on battletoads, and average for a little while, but it's only really good for building up my profs.

Who is Rob o_o?
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