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post Jun 13 2012, 21:31
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I for one am getting sick of seeing potentially awesome equipment getting wasted by not having any PABs or the wrong ones.

Can we please just skip to the torches and pitchfork uprising against Tenboro stage until he promises to slightly change the system in order to either guarantee a minimum of 1 PAB for superior or better, or better yet the primary stat for any given piece of equip is guaranteed to be included?

e.g.:
Staff = Int
Mace = Str
Plate = End
Power = Str
Phase = Int

And so on, with one sure fire PAB so we don't have to see any more exquisites or higher with 98%+ in desirable stat(s) and no PABs to back it up. It's just irritating as hell.
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post Jun 13 2012, 21:32
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 13 2012, 20:25) *

We must be looking at different staffs, because that looks like 100% garbage to me.


Yeah, but to be fair we all know that your ebony staff is legendary and silver tipped, so your standards might be set a little higher than ours.
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post Jun 13 2012, 21:40
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his staff has 1 increment more MDB than mine. ie 37.61 base vs my 36.6x base. would be a very sad case for him if his 20 million staff was weaker than a superior one. i guess it'd be even worse for him if my staff had just been bumped to exquisite with a little random luck on the useless rolls.

QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 13 2012, 13:25) *

We must be looking at different staffs, because that looks like 100% garbage to me.


you've placed thousands and thousands of equip worse than it in your auctions. can i call you garbage collector from now on then? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 13 2012, 22:17
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 13 2012, 14:40) *

his staff has 1 increment more MDB than mine. ie 37.61 base vs my 36.6x base. would be a very sad case for him if his 20 million staff was weaker than a superior one. i guess it'd be even worse for him if my staff had just been bumped to exquisite with a little random luck on the useless rolls.
you've placed thousands and thousands of equip worse than it in your auctions. can i call you garbage collector from now on then? :P

MDM is not the lone measure of a staff. Or else I might have upgraded this. How's it stack up on accuracy, proficiencies, EDBs, PABs, and ET? Yeah, rhetorical question.

And I didn't say it wasn't sellable. Just trash. Someone would still buy it because they (1) can't distinguish between what's good and bad, (2) don't have funds to buy good equipment or don't want to invest the time needed to acquire it themselves, (3) want to save money by settling for a lesser piece of equipment.
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post Jun 13 2012, 22:22
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QUOTE(KCzz15 @ Jun 14 2012, 03:31) *

Can we please just skip to the torches and pitchfork uprising against Tenboro stage until he promises to slightly change the system in order to either guarantee a minimum of 1 PAB for superior or better, or better yet the primary stat for any given piece of equip is guaranteed to be included?


Never suggest something like that. HV is a complement to the whole E-hentai system, not the other way round. That means Tenb should finish anything that improve the site's performance before turning his focus to HV.
Also, the message has been conveyed though different threads to Tenb. You don't need to remind him again and again, as it's deemed annoying.
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post Jun 13 2012, 22:45
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 13 2012, 14:17) *

MDM is not the lone measure of a staff. Or else I might have upgraded this. How's it stack up on accuracy, proficiencies, EDBs, PABs, and ET? Yeah, rhetorical question.

And I didn't say it wasn't sellable. Just trash. Someone would still buy it because they (1) can't distinguish between what's good and bad, (2) don't have funds to buy good equipment or don't want to invest the time needed to acquire it themselves, (3) want to save money by settling for a lesser piece of equipment.


Naturally MDB* isn't the only value to go by. Thankfully you didn't upgrade that staff. Definitely not MDB value worth looking at since it pales even to an Exquisite and Wis/Int worse than my Superior's.

Just essentially you're saying the norm is trash? Then I guess everyone in HV is a garbage collector (including yourself) according to your standards. Well at least there's no segregation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) As for me, I'll stick to more useful categorization.
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post Jun 13 2012, 22:52
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post Jun 13 2012, 23:02
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QUOTE(cryomorph @ Jun 14 2012, 04:52) *


Ouch...the PAB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jun 13 2012, 23:12
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 13 2012, 15:45) *
Just essentially you're saying the norm is trash? Then I guess everyone in HV is a garbage collector (including yourself) according to your standards. Well at least there's no segregation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) As for me, I'll stick to more useful categorization.

Overstatement. The NORM is worse than trash. It's the stuff that is hardly worth the time to click "Sell All" at the bazaar now, because it's 99% [BAD QUALITY] [TIER 1] of the [WORTHLESS SUFFIX] with missing or no PABs, regardless if you're playing on Easy or IWBTH, and regardless of what LotD you have.

And 0.7 base difference is hardly "pales in comparison," so stop talking out of your ass.

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post Jun 13 2012, 23:26
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 13 2012, 15:12) *

Overstatement. The NORM is worse than trash. It's the stuff that is hardly worth the time to click "Sell All" at the bazaar now, because it's 99% [BAD QUALITY] [TIER 1] of the [WORTHLESS SUFFIX] with missing or no PABs, regardless if you're playing on Easy or IWBTH, and regardless of what LotD you have.

And 0.7 base difference is hardly "pales in comparison," so stop talking out of your ass.


Why not make things simpler and just say there are normal items and there are trash?

Basically you have (whatever you use to describe something good), trash, worse than trash.

Most other players have godlike, normal, trash.

For a "Magnificent" you would say it doesn't pale? Maybe I should have mentioned the lower *everything else important* as well? I guess my butt better stop talking. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jun 14 2012, 00:11
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post Jun 14 2012, 00:12
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 13 2012, 16:26) *

Why not make things simpler and just say there are normal items and there are trash?

Basically you have (whatever you use to describe something good), trash, worse than trash.

Most other players have godlike, normal, trash.

For a "Magnificent" you would say it doesn't pale? Maybe I should have mentioned the lower *everything else important* as well? I guess my butt better stop talking. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

My scale is more like "Why can't I ever get one of those," "meh, guess I'm stuck with this forever, until Tenboro rewrites all of HV to make me switch classes," "trash that can be sold," and "worse than trash" (99.9% of current drops with maxed trainings.)

And I wouldn't say it pales, because most people would kill for it. However, it's not very good for a Magnificent, which is why you've probably never seen me mention it before. Note the EID... i.e. it was generated long before EX+ bonuses were added.

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post Jun 14 2012, 00:20
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QUOTE(Tiap @ Jun 13 2012, 18:11) *

Really odd overall with Agi, Dex, and Int PAB. Better than no PAB at all. Prefer zeroacg Shade equipment piece with 6 PAB which is very nice.
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post Jun 14 2012, 01:39
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Strength and Dexterity... I'm not even sure what attribute bonuses it should have anymore... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jun 14 2012, 03:45
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Exquisite Leather Breastplate of the Spirit-ward

FIDDLESTICKS....This thing has no PAB. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jun 14 2012, 03:57
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QUOTE(Insania @ Jun 13 2012, 21:45) *

Exquisite Leather Breastplate of the Spirit-ward

FIDDLESTICKS....This thing has no PAB. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Get used to seeing equipment with no PAB. The luckiest equipment will have 6 PABs if it is possible (it was on a Shade).
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post Jun 14 2012, 04:25
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Nice-ish PABs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 14 2012, 04:31
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post Jun 14 2012, 06:05
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Why couldn't it be an estoc or mace? This would be an awesome weapon anyway.
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post Jun 14 2012, 06:55
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