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post May 23 2019, 06:44
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[Sta03] Legendary Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction (Lv.358, MDB 94%, EDB 56%, Prof 39%)
Your script shows dark prof for Hallowed staff as main, even though EDB is Holy.


Thanks for notice. Will check the script later. The holy prof is correct now.
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post Jul 3 2019, 07:55
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QUOTE(SakiRaFubuKi @ Apr 4 2017, 12:01) *

My friends advise me to give a preview page for the every next auction.I will update it once a day from Sunday to Tuesday.If you have any questions,please feel free to ask me.I will apreciate your advice as well.Thanks for your support.


apreciate might be appreciate 毛团桑你好啊
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post Jul 7 2019, 17:49
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I was going to comment in the auction itself but SOMEONE closed it (or it just be like that after some time) but I suspected I was paying more than my bid, lol. In any case, my last bid was the bid I was stopping on so the other guy won it, I can return it if it is so desired.
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post Jul 7 2019, 19:13
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Jul 7 2019, 17:49) *

SOMEONE closed it

oh, i know who he is. do i need to whip him? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jul 7 2019, 21:45
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 7 2019, 19:13) *

oh, i know who he is. do i need to whip him? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Go ahead (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jul 8 2019, 13:47
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Jul 7 2019, 23:49) *

I was going to comment in the auction itself but SOMEONE closed it (or it just be like that after some time) but I suspected I was paying more than my bid, lol. In any case, my last bid was the bid I was stopping on so the other guy won it, I can return it if it is so desired.


I've paid the penalty for my mistake to your competitor and the seller. It's yours, I guess? After all, sorry for the inconvenience I caused.

Anyway, you are welcome to return it if you want a round two. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Jul 8 2019, 21:04
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QUOTE(SakiRaFubuKi @ Jul 8 2019, 04:47) *

I've paid the penalty for my mistake to your competitor and the seller. It's yours, I guess? After all, sorry for the inconvenience I caused.

Anyway, you are welcome to return it if you want a round two. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



I'll keep it then, lol
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post Aug 27 2019, 03:38
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Bumping because this should always be on the front page.
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post Oct 17 2019, 16:26
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You can cancel your bid freely until one hour left(before 22:00(14:00 UTC)).
After 22:00(14:00 UTC) however, you can only cancel the bid which you post it within 5 minutes.

I think this policy is much too lenient on canceling bids. Consider someone like me, there is no way I could stay awake for 99% of your auction items because your auction ends at 05:00 am!

So someone who is right now indeed canceling his bids over mine could cancel his 100m bid on Peerless Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter at any time without penalty. This means I can't ever bid over him because of the possibility that his bid is not serious.

You should consider a new auction policy. For example, if canceling is not allowed within 24 hours of the end, then I can wake up, and I can know when his bid is serious, and I could bid over him on the last day.
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post Oct 17 2019, 16:49
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nvm

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post Oct 18 2019, 02:41
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 17 2019, 22:26) *

I think this policy is much too lenient on canceling bids. Consider someone like me, there is no way I could stay awake for 99% of your auction items because your auction ends at 05:00 am!

So someone who is right now indeed canceling his bids over mine could cancel his 100m bid on Peerless Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter at any time without penalty. This means I can't ever bid over him because of the possibility that his bid is not serious.

You should consider a new auction policy. For example, if canceling is not allowed within 24 hours of the end, then I can wake up, and I can know when his bid is serious, and I could bid over him on the last day.


I don't know why you think so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

1.The rule is "*When you cancel the bid, it means both your current and former bids on this item are cancelled. The current highest bid will return to the minimum winning bid (must be valid) from the second highest bidder." So if I cancel my 100m bid, it means you can get it @ your 88m bid, it's obviously good for you. Why do you have to pay a higher price? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

2.One of Super's Auction Rules is "If you want an item, be courteous to other bidders by bidding early and consistently. " I think his words are correct.

3.If I canceled something, it's just because I found a better one. This is reasonable.

4.I think Peerless Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter is worth the price. Just like I gave up ascending-bidding Peerless Arctic Rapier of Slaughter @75m on Auction#154 because I think it’s not worth the price.

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post Oct 18 2019, 03:19
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3.If I canceled something, it's just because I found a better one. This is reasonable.


Why don't you just, not bid on something in the first place then?
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post Oct 18 2019, 05:34
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Why don't you just, not bid on something in the first place then?


Because you cannot know in advance when better items will appear, is it?

You have gotta make hay while the sun shines.

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post Oct 18 2019, 09:49
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In this particular case, I observed your actions and believe you are bidding completely honestly on every item, so I have no dispute with you.

However, it won't be the case with every other bidder, and this auction was a great example to show a problem that could arise. Just last year, on a Peerless Demonic Rapier of Slaughter the same thing happened, and someone did also bid 100m and cancel, creating some complaints. This person was eventually partially banned from Superlatanium auction, when his behavior persisted for months.

But he was not completely dishonest either, and he had lots of money, about the same as us. It shows that when it comes to bidding, people should not be allowed to fool around, it can occasionally hurt the system for others.

Even though I have no dispute with you, I still think this bidding rule should be changed. It's not a good rule.

What if I went and bid 1000000000000 credits on every item? Then I can cancel them all, just 5 minutes before the auction ends? At 5 am in the morning when some people are sleeping? It's not fair.
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post Oct 18 2019, 10:28
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 18 2019, 15:49) *

In this particular case, I observed your actions and believe you are bidding completely honestly on every item, so I have no dispute with you.

However, it won't be the case with every other bidder, and this auction was a great example to show a problem that could arise. Just last year, on a Peerless Demonic Rapier of Slaughter the same thing happened, and someone did also bid 100m and cancel, creating some complaints. This person was eventually partially banned from Superlatanium auction, when his behavior persisted for months.

But he was not completely dishonest either, and he had lots of money, about the same as us. It shows that when it comes to bidding, people should not be allowed to fool around, it can occasionally hurt the system for others.

Even though I have no dispute with you, I still think this bidding rule should be changed. It's not a good rule.

What if I went and bid 1000000000000 credits on every item? Then I can cancel them all, just 5 minutes before the auction ends? At 5 am in the morning when some people are sleeping? It's not fair.


Well, that makes sense. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 18 2019, 14:17
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 18 2019, 08:49) *

What if I went and bid 1000000000000 credits on every item? Then I can cancel them all, just 5 minutes before the auction ends? At 5 am in the morning when some people are sleeping? It's not fair.


To elaborate on another possible abuse, in defense of the idea of narrowing the window of opportunity for cancellations:

If one was to bid very highly at the very start of the auction, nobody is going to make any other valid bids on that item. Then if they cancel, the only valid bids would be any few that started before that, if there even were any.

Obviously, a player could use this to cancel and then bid lower, and only have to worry about much more limited competition (if you knew an item was already well above your price range, would you still watch it very closely at the last hour? or would you just give up and go to bed?).

Even though this would be easily spotted and the offender could be punished, there's also the possibility of a 2-man con, where the same behaviour is repeated either as a way to 'protect' an early low bid from being outbid, or by masking the intention of the cancellation by making it look like the other one was just a lucky fellow that turned up and paid attention at the last minute.
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post Oct 18 2019, 17:00
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 18 2019, 09:49) *

At 5 am in the morning when some people are sleeping? It's not fair.

it's always 5 AM in the morning, at least for someone within the userbase.

QUOTE(lestion @ Oct 18 2019, 14:17) *

Even though this would be easily spotted and the offender could be punished, there's also the possibility of a 2-man con, where the same behaviour is repeated either as a way to 'protect' an early low bid from being outbid, or by masking the intention of the cancellation by making it look like the other one was just a lucky fellow that turned up and paid attention at the last minute.

2-man would only make it a bit longer to spot and more people whipped after being exposed, worry not.
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post Oct 18 2019, 20:25
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QUOTE(Barthomeloi @ Oct 18 2019, 02:41) *

4.I think Peerless Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter is worth the price. Just like I gave up ascending-bidding Peerless Arctic Rapier of Slaughter @75m on Auction#154 because I think it’s not worth the price.

Considering Arctic is better I can't really see how 75m is too much for Arctic but 100m isn't for Ethereal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Considering Arctic is better I can't really see how 75m is too much for Arctic but 100m isn't for Ethereal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


not everybody consider arctic better than ethereal.
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post Oct 19 2019, 01:28
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Oct 19 2019, 02:25) *

Considering Arctic is better I can't really see how 75m is too much for Arctic but 100m isn't for Ethereal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


Arctic is really better for 1H, and Ethereal may be used in more places (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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