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Apr 22 2022, 16:43
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,175
Joined: 25-July 12

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Have been thinking about a music guess quiz for the next event but it has to be anti-shazam and shazam is goddamn good at detecting music, from my test results in the last 2 days. But I finally got an idea. No details here though (since there's none concrete for the time being), so stay tuned for it.
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Apr 23 2022, 01:33
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Pretty anon
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,668
Joined: 10-April 17

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Is shazam really that good? I tried to find a few instrumental songs many years ago with it and got nothing, maybe it got better over time. If not you could try with instrumental versions of songs to try to fool it or you could always go the extreme route and get some good ole midis rolling for it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Apr 23 2022, 09:02
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shote1369
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,546
Joined: 24-April 18

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Snom uses midomi more often than shazam (*3*)
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Apr 23 2022, 11:11
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,175
Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(Pretty anon @ Apr 23 2022, 07:33)  Is shazam really that good? I tried to find a few instrumental songs many years ago with it and got nothing, maybe it got better over time. If not you could try with instrumental versions of songs to try to fool it or you could always go the extreme route and get some good ole midis rolling for it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Way too good for any of my tests to be safe from it. It's been 20 years since they released the algorithm paper. I tried on some of my shitty mixes and it managed to detect the original songs in under 10 seconds for most tests, with the exception of one. Shazam is exceptionally capable when there are vocals. Instrumentals are not safe unless it's some rare ass wacky song, then people wouldn't know about it either lol. Let's see how it fares when the songs are 5s long on average and heavily altered, which will be the source music for the next event. Or I could do some dumb shit like slapping vocals from one song on top of the instrumental of another song and make everyone guess the instrumental but I have a belief that most people won't know it. Melodic and lyrical memory is stronger for most people after all. Like, everyone should know which song has "demo sonna ja dame" but I doubt many can recognize the song from the first 8 seconds before the trumpet hits. QUOTE(shote1369 @ Apr 23 2022, 15:02)  Snom uses midomi more often than shazam (*3*)
Never heard of it before, tried out a bit and it's pretty ok. This post has been edited by Ass Spanker: Apr 23 2022, 11:12
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Apr 23 2022, 13:58
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Pretty anon
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,668
Joined: 10-April 17

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QUOTE(shote1369 @ Apr 23 2022, 02:02)  Snom uses midomi more often than shazam (*3*)
I actually used it after shazam failed but it ended up being the same, hopefully I'm not listening to rare ass wacky songs. QUOTE(Ass Spanker @ Apr 23 2022, 04:11)  Way too good for any of my tests to be safe from it. It's been 20 years since they released the algorithm paper. I tried on some of my shitty mixes and it managed to detect the original songs in under 10 seconds for most tests, with the exception of one. Shazam is exceptionally capable when there are vocals. Instrumentals are not safe unless it's some rare ass wacky song, then people wouldn't know about it either lol. Let's see how it fares when the songs are 5s long on average and heavily altered, which will be the source music for the next event. Or I could do some dumb shit like slapping vocals from one song on top of the instrumental of another song and make everyone guess the instrumental but I have a belief that most people won't know it. Melodic and lyrical memory is stronger for most people after all. Like, everyone should know which song has "demo sonna ja dame" but I doubt many can recognize the song from the first 8 seconds before the trumpet hits. Never heard of it before, tried out a bit and it's pretty ok.
Just take it easy before you give birth [files.catbox.moe] to an edit of this I actually misread the lyrics and thought it was about that Yakuza song from the recent fad before realizing it was Renai Circulation so I would have failed there (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Oh is that so, guess I'll play with shazam later to test what it can do. Sounds fun, like playing with Akinator.
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Apr 23 2022, 14:59
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,175
Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(Pretty anon @ Apr 23 2022, 19:58)  Oh is that so, guess I'll play with shazam later to test what it can do. Sounds fun, like playing with Akinator.
In some extreme cases, it recognized the song in 2 seconds, which was super impressive. Though I already have measures in place to prevent event participants from abusing easy songs that are shazam-able.
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Apr 23 2022, 22:23
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Necromusume
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 6,832
Joined: 17-May 12

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If there are vocals, people who know Japanese will just google the lyrics.
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Apr 23 2022, 23:42
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Necromusume @ Apr 24 2022, 04:23)  If there are vocals, people who know Japanese will just google the lyrics.
That's a ok with me since I commend efforts and if someone bothers to look shit up, he deserves the rewards. Efforts have always been the main focus of every single one of my events.
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Apr 24 2022, 22:38
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,175
Joined: 25-July 12

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Done with the music and I might need a helper with denoting the timestamps oof. 756 songs 68 minutes. Jesus.
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yes I actually need help with this, obviously you are disqualified from the giveaway but as a compensation, you will be getting the market value of the top winner of the event + 10M credits, or 30M credits, whichever is higher. please send me a PM (not MM) if interested. the entire thing is 68 minutes long and you will be pausing frequently to mark down the timestamps so it might take your weekend. if you think 30M credits is too low, I'm open to negotiation. nvm my code took care of it lmao
This post has been edited by Ass Spanker: Apr 26 2022, 10:04
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Apr 27 2022, 20:10
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shote1369
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,546
Joined: 24-April 18

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Hmmm... in somehow Snom is poor even in it own standard, once again (=3=")
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Apr 30 2022, 10:59
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
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Feel free to claim your pirate bounties from my new event. I remove (almost) all restrictions on participation this time so anyone can join.
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Apr 30 2022, 12:23
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shote1369
Group: Gold Star Club
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Snom does not understand timestamp and the rule ..... (IMG:[ emoji.gg] https://emoji.gg/assets/emoji/ThonkSpin.gif) Snom will pass this event because it does not understand anything, for real. This post has been edited by shote1369: Apr 30 2022, 12:26
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Apr 30 2022, 12:59
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Pretty anon
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,668
Joined: 10-April 17

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Well it's very wordy so no wonder. Snom, have you ever played this battleship game? It looks like this: (IMG:[ thumbs.dreamstime.com] https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/battleship-sea-battle-board-game-over-white-sorel-tracy-canada-may-studio-shot-classic-milton-bradley-also-called-54597673.jpg) (IMG:[ files.catbox.moe] https://files.catbox.moe/jv5dzt.png) That's what the event is based on, you select places where to shoot and you sink enemy ships and win. In Ass Spanker's event instead of a square with letters and numbers specifying the ships positions there's only a line, a big line of 700+ dots which can be found in the spreadsheet. So basically you guess what song is in what timestamp and that timestamp is the position your rockets will shoot. If you destroy the Spanker ships you win, everyone wins. It's basically everyone vs Overlord Spank and we don't have ships to be sunk so it's even simpler. We're playing something like this: This post has been edited by Pretty anon: Apr 30 2022, 13:01
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Apr 30 2022, 13:08
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,159
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Pretty anon @ Apr 30 2022, 12:59)  Well it's very wordy so no wonder. Snom, have you ever played this battleship game? It looks like this: (IMG:[ thumbs.dreamstime.com] https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/battleship-sea-battle-board-game-over-white-sorel-tracy-canada-may-studio-shot-classic-milton-bradley-also-called-54597673.jpg) (IMG:[ files.catbox.moe] https://files.catbox.moe/jv5dzt.png) That's what the event is based on, you select places where to shoot and you sink enemy ships and win. In Ass Spanker's event instead of a square with letters and numbers specifying the ships positions there's only a line, a big line of 700+ dots which can be found in the spreadsheet. So basically you guess what song is in what timestamp and that timestamp is the position your rockets will shoot. If you destroy the Spanker ships you win, everyone wins. It's basically everyone vs Overlord Spank and we don't have ships to be sunk so it's even simpler. We're playing something like this: thanks, very helpful explanation! Perhaps Spanky should link to your post in his event? What I still do not understand is how am I supposed to know which song is which? Do you expect me to know such things? I don't watch anime. I'm just here for the x-ray hentai.
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Apr 30 2022, 13:49
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,175
Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(shote1369 @ Apr 30 2022, 18:23)  Snom does not understand timestamp and the rule ..... (IMG:[ emoji.gg] https://emoji.gg/assets/emoji/ThonkSpin.gif) Snom will pass this event because it does not understand anything, for real. TL;DR it's just finding the song names from my ultra long anime song medley. Low barrier, high ceiling as my other giveaways (hopefully). You can literally copy someone's answer and that puts your name into the waitlist for participation prizes shared between everyone. But for the max profit, you need to understand the game design and put in some thoughts behind your guesses. QUOTE(Noni @ Apr 30 2022, 19:08)  thanks, very helpful explanation! Perhaps Spanky should link to your post in his event? What I still do not understand is how am I supposed to know which song is which? Do you expect me to know such things? I don't watch anime. I'm just here for the x-ray hentai.
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Apr 30 2022, 17:20
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shote1369
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 24-April 18

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Snom has started to figure something but any songs are accepted ? Or there was a long long song to launch rockets in to the ass ..... Ass's Song, it's called fart .... You have known what Snom talks about. And yes, Snom must thank to the Beauty's (so where is the Beast) explanation that help Snom a lot. (^3^) BUT Snom is dump dump in songs.
This post has been edited by shote1369: Apr 30 2022, 22:24
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May 1 2022, 05:57
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Pretty anon
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,668
Joined: 10-April 17

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QUOTE(Noni @ Apr 30 2022, 06:08)  thanks, very helpful explanation! Perhaps Spanky should link to your post in his event? What I still do not understand is how am I supposed to know which song is which? Do you expect me to know such things? I don't watch anime. I'm just here for the x-ray hentai.
It actually puzzled me why my post was in that thread until I read this, glad you found it helpful. x-ray huh, I've heard of people liking ghosts but skellies? I guess you took the people being bone'd too literal (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(shote1369 @ Apr 30 2022, 10:20)  Snom has started to figure something but any songs are accepted ? Or there was a long long song to launch rockets in to the ass ..... Ass's Song, it's called fart .... You have known what Snom talks about. And yes, Snom must thank to the Beauty's (so where is the Beast) explanation that help Snom a lot. (^3^) BUT Snom is dump dump in songs.
Well as long as you sort of now what is the song in certain timestamp I don't see why AS would reject it, actually even incorrect ones might count for something. And I already listened to it and it doesn't seem there's anything newer than 2016 and there's lots of popular and mainstream stuffs so with 750+ pieces surely there must be at least one you know. Maybe. Give it a try in any case.
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May 2 2022, 23:08
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Pretty anon
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,668
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Well you can if you want from what I can see although there's a shared pool so it's beneficial to cover as much ground as possible, and it seems by doing so your participation prize gets halved and your shots don't seem to count as rockets so no ship loot either, but then this was added: QUOTE Watch out for people's guesses and intercept an early attempt to sink a ship, taking their loot from them. I don't know what happens if people both attack the same spot.
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May 3 2022, 06:15
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,175
Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(Pretty anon @ May 3 2022, 05:08)  I don't know what happens if people both attack the same spot.
Earlier one gets it all, later one gets half a participation prize. What I roughly meant by that tip is that if you see someone keep making successful shots at the same region later in the game, you can kill steal if there are not a lot of free slots left and you know where the ship boundaries are.
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