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post Nov 2 2016, 03:01
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It seems we're making this estimation, based on daily revenue:

poor ---> under 200k
lower middle class ---> between 200k and 600k
upper middle class ---> between 600k and 1m
rich ---> over 1m

Does it seem right to you all, guys?
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:03
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:05
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 2 2016, 02:01) *

It seems we're making this estimation, based on daily revenue:

poor ---> under 200k
lower middle class ---> between 200k and 600k
upper middle class ---> between 600k and 1m
rich ---> over 1m

Does it seem right to you all, guys?

I'd say poor under 200 and then above 500k is already rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:08
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 2 2016, 03:05) *

I'd say poor under 200 and then above 500k is already rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

It seemed a bit too high for me too, i was going more based on Stulpen estimations.
How does this look, instead?

very poor ---> under 100k
poor ---> between 100k and 200k
lower middle class ---> between 200k and 350k
upper middle class ---> between 350k and 500k
rich ---> between 500k and 1m
very rich ---> over 1m

This seems kind of right, to me.
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:11
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 2 2016, 02:03) *

wow , that really serious talk here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


Of course, we are poor not stupid. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:11
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Just so you know I'm rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:13
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 2 2016, 02:08) *

It seemed a bit too high for me too, i was going more based on Stulpen estimations.
How does this look, instead?

very poor ---> under 100k
poor ---> between 100k and 200k
lower middle class ---> between 200k and 350k
upper middle class ---> between 350k and 500k
rich ---> between 500k and 1m
very rich ---> over 1m

This seems kind of right, to me.



The thing is, you have to keep in count that gaining 400k/day isn't twice as difficult compared to gaining 200k/day, but more.
Since no matter what, a lot of revenue is either passive or luck based on quality rolls of junk you drop and then sell to the bazaar.
And monster lab helps too a little bit.
Increasing a little gain is easy, but increasing a bigger one it's harder.


Let's assume you gain 200k with 24 stamina.
If you want to gain 400, you have to play for 20 more, but in the process, you use 2 ED, gaining effectively less, with more effort.

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post Nov 2 2016, 03:14
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 2 2016, 03:13) *

The thing is, you have to keep in count that gaining 400k/day isn't twice as difficult compared to gaining 200k/day, but more.
Since no matter what, a lot of revenue is either passive or luck based on quality rolls of junk you drop and then sell to the bazaar.
And monster lab helps too a little bit.
Increasing a little gain is easy, but increasing a bigger one it's harder.

Do you think the threshold for being rich should be 400k then? let's make the definitive estimation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(Stulpen @ Nov 2 2016, 03:11) *

Of course, we are poor not stupid. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Given the estimations, you're not poor anymore, you're a bourgeoisie (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Nov 2 2016, 03:11) *

Just so you know I'm rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

The subtitle of the thread says "Rich Players not allowed, unless they're making charity".
Are you going to make charity?
Please say yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Nov 2 2016, 03:17
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 2 2016, 08:14) *

Are you going to make charity?
Please say yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


No, I'm a bad person. And bad person never do any charity *evil face*
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:18
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 2 2016, 02:14) *

Do you think the threshold for being rich should be 400k then? let's make the definitive estimation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Read the last lines I added in my previous post.
It's a matter of, going beyond some hours of play, you have to spend money to make more money.
So you have to be either a lifeless nerd, or a rich person that gains credits in some other way to pay off the loss and break even or gain even more.
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:20
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Nov 2 2016, 02:17) *

No, I'm a bad person. And bad person never do any charity *evil face*

I'd say you to go away but I like your avatar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Also, I'm a bad person too, so I empathize (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:20
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 2 2016, 02:14) *

Given the estimations, you're not poor anymore, you're a bourgeoisie (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


But im an uncle. And the uncle stu loves you discount alone cost me a fortune. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:22
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Nov 2 2016, 02:20) *

But im an uncle. And the uncle stu loves you discount alone cost me a fortune. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

And that's why we all love you uncle stu (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 2 2016, 03:18) *

Read the last lines I added in my previous post.
It's a matter of, going beyond some hours of play, you have to spend money to make more money.
So you have to be either a lifeless nerd, or a rich person that gains credits in some other way to pay off the loss and break even or gain even more.

Then, let's put it like this:
The rich level of a person is calculated based on gain, not revenue.
So if you spend as much as you get as revenue you're very poor, but as soon as you stop spending that much you become upper class or rich or something else based on the classes said before.
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:25
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 2 2016, 02:22) *

Then, let's put it like this:
The rich level of a person is calculated based on gain, not revenue.
So if you spend as much as you get as revenue you're very poor, but as soon as you stop spending that much you become upper class or rich or something else based on the classes said before.

Yup, I mixed up.
Basically, the credit balance of 24 hours.


And we have to distinguish poor people from low levels, anyway.
Below level 300 there is no effective poor or rich, only people grinding to level up and getting to the point gears are accessible.
Below that level you aren't likely to play on high difficulty and get a lot of credits, you have to grind and save up (if you keep all the clear bonuses using selfdrop gear, you should reach lv 300 with a couple of millions, enough to make a pretty decent [mag/leg rapier with 45ish wd, 35ish block force shield with 20~25 forged block and 5 leg power armors with normal rolls and no slaughter suffix] 1h set)

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post Nov 2 2016, 03:26
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Is everyone in this thread really poor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Nov 2 2016, 02:26) *

Is everyone in this thread really poor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

If I make 100k in one day, I'm very lucky (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif), but usually I make ~60k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Nov 2 2016, 03:25) *

Yup, I mixed up.
Basically, the credit balance of 24 hours.
And we have to distinguish poor people from low levels, anyway.
Below level 300 there is no effective poor or rich, only people grinding to level up and getting to the point gears are accessible.

I'd put richness more in terms of weekly credit balance to average fluctuations, but we are on the right track (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Nov 2 2016, 03:26) *

Is everyone in this thread really poor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

You heard him, i'm not poor, i'm leveling (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Nov 2 2016, 09:17) *

No, I'm a bad person. And bad person never do any charity *evil face*

that mean no charity for me , aria (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

my poor pockets (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Nov 2 2016, 09:26) *

Is everyone in this thread really poor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 2 2016, 02:31) *

I know that feel (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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