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post May 16 2021, 16:38
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QUOTE(forneus_zero @ May 16 2021, 10:39) *

I dont know either, aside from my shield and rapier which are soulbound the rest of my equipment are 30++ lower than my current level, so maybe that's the problem. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

could just be that your play style can be optimized. You know, how you imperil, when to spam weaken, how to use your over charge pips, spirit stance, vital strike, stuff like that. With that shield, you should not die in arena's ever
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post May 17 2021, 15:59
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QUOTE(Noni @ May 16 2021, 21:38) *

could just be that your play style can be optimized. You know, how you imperil, when to spam weaken, how to use your over charge pips, spirit stance, vital strike, stuff like that. With that shield, you should not die in arena's ever


Might be true, I'm reluctant to use ofc and prefer to use vital strike (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 17 2021, 17:21
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So thaaaat's how people do it. Huh, I'll have to try that if I ever have the mana left over.
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post May 23 2021, 14:48
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For a moment in Snom's life, Snom is out of it's own standard of poverty !!! ц(^w^ц)

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post May 24 2021, 04:20
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QUOTE(shote1369 @ May 23 2021, 14:48) *

For a moment in Snom's life, Snom is out of it's own standard of poverty !!! ц(^w^ц)




Eyy, good on ya!


Meanwhile I'm fluctuating between ~100,000 and 0 because I'm slowly but surely building up all my current monsters (I'm planning on stopping at 13; one of each, as before. I'll probably feed any Chaos Tokens to them once I get #13 to increase gift factor) to 500+ with crystals from the HVM. 1,000@1,100c is pretty friggin' good for getting that done.
Think once I've got them all up to 500 (or beyond), and I've shoved enough tokens into them that the next upgrades are more than buying new monsters, I'll repeat the process. I wonder if it'd be ideal to have a set of maxed monsters (1,500 for pure High Grade), a set of middle-level monsters (750 for High and Medium), and a set of lower-level monsters (500 for all three), just so I get all of the resources I can of all qualities. That'd be 39 total, if I follow my current pattern of one of each type, or 78 total for two of each if I don't die of old age before getting to the point where I'm regularly pulling in that many tokens to do so with (or I get a Gold Star somehow).

So many things to think of and consider... so many things to overthink.
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post May 24 2021, 11:08
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QUOTE(votp @ May 24 2021, 03:20) *

Eyy, good on ya!
Meanwhile I'm fluctuating between ~100,000 and 0 because I'm slowly but surely building up all my current monsters (I'm planning on stopping at 13; one of each, as before. I'll probably feed any Chaos Tokens to them once I get #13 to increase gift factor) to 500+ with crystals from the HVM. 1,000@1,100c is pretty friggin' good for getting that done.
Think once I've got them all up to 500 (or beyond), and I've shoved enough tokens into them that the next upgrades are more than buying new monsters, I'll repeat the process. I wonder if it'd be ideal to have a set of maxed monsters (1,500 for pure High Grade), a set of middle-level monsters (750 for High and Medium), and a set of lower-level monsters (500 for all three), just so I get all of the resources I can of all qualities. That'd be 39 total, if I follow my current pattern of one of each type, or 78 total for two of each if I don't die of old age before getting to the point where I'm regularly pulling in that many tokens to do so with (or I get a Gold Star somehow).

So many things to think of and consider... so many things to overthink.


For what it's worth, monsters between levels 100ish and 1500ish are basically in a 'deadzone' where they face very few players in battle - most active players are already high level, and the PL curve in battle is quite aggressive when playing on high difficulty (which most do).

There's basically three strategies for monlab returns:
- leave everything at 25 and gamble on getting occasional wins against newbies (and also so you can feed crystals for morale instead of happy pills while it's still cheap)
- level everything to 750, to eliminate low-grades from being in their 3-day guaranteed gift pool, although mid-grades are worth very little these days
- level to 1500+ to face players in battle for more gifts (takes about 4 years to pay off if they have max upgrades, and this gets continually longer due to increasing saturation)

Monlab is a very, very, very poor investment for a new player. And basically anyone else, frankly. It's a luxury for the ultra-rich to have their monster names show up frequently, and a hobby for those with nothing else left to do in HV.

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post May 24 2021, 14:42
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QUOTE(Nezu @ May 24 2021, 10:08) *

(takes about 4 years to pay off if they have max upgrades, and this gets continually longer due to increasing saturation)
I'm curious how did you reach this conclusion. I didn't make the math but I thought it would take decades to pay off.

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post May 24 2021, 21:25
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I mean, I don't have anything else to spend money on until I get to a high enough level (300-ish, IIRC?) for things to get rolling proper, which is still quite a ways away for me. might as well passively soak up the three-day bonuses from my minions while I slowly but surely grind my way up there.
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post May 24 2021, 21:49
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QUOTE(shote1369 @ May 23 2021, 20:48) *

For a moment in Snom's life, Snom is out of it's own standard of poverty !!! ц(^w^ц)

donate to poor players now?
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post May 24 2021, 23:50
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QUOTE(hgbdd @ May 24 2021, 13:42) *

I'm curious how did you reach this conclusion. I didn't make the math but I thought it would take decades to pay off.


Estimated based on the average returns of my monsters at various plvls over a year or so.

edit: note that's for 1500ish monsters - at 2250, it's more like 7 years, if I remember correctly

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post May 25 2021, 11:19
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QUOTE(Ass Spanker @ May 25 2021, 02:49) *

donate to poor players now?

Snom's rich standard is over 100k Credits would be considered as rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post May 25 2021, 13:14
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QUOTE(shote1369 @ May 25 2021, 11:19) *

Snom's rich standard is over 100k Credits would be considered as rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) means you're rich if you have an energy drink?
that's .... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post May 25 2021, 18:49
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QUOTE(shote1369 @ May 25 2021, 10:19) *

Snom's rich standard is over 100k Credits would be considered as rich (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


Then you just have to finish all your daily arenas to be rich all days (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post May 25 2021, 19:47
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Snom is hardly to control it's shopping fever (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
Shopping is sweet but psycho. Crazy such as love~


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post Jun 9 2021, 10:44
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Hey poor people, your Uncle is still alive.
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post Jun 9 2021, 11:06
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 9 2021, 03:44) *

Hey poor people, your Uncle is still alive.


Welcome back (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
You've been gone for so long you missed Snom getting mad rich as you can see above by the shopping fever
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post Jun 9 2021, 19:06
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 9 2021, 15:44) *

Hey poor people, your Uncle is still alive.

Introducing yourself, and why you cam here. (UwU)

QUOTE(Pretty anon @ Jun 9 2021, 16:06) *

Welcome back (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
You've been gone for so long you missed Snom getting mad rich as you can see above by the shopping fever

Do you want to be the guy and Snom drives on you and wiggling singing about how Snom's sweet shopping but psycho is ... ლ(`∀´ლ)
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post Jun 23 2021, 20:14
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Days....without Legs, maybe weeks, years, centuries ...... Cursed Snom (T^T) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jun 23 2021, 20:16
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QUOTE(shote1369 @ Jun 23 2021, 19:14) *

Days....without Legs, maybe weeks, years, centuries ...... Cursed Snom (T^T) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


The new arenas should help with that when we get them. The T7 clear bonuses are equivalent to Stocking Stuffers, so the 300, 400 and 500 arenas combined are essentially 6 Stocking Stuffers a day.
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post Jun 23 2021, 20:36
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Jun 23 2021, 18:16) *

The new arenas should help with that when we get them. The T7 clear bonuses are equivalent to Stocking Stuffers, so the 300, 400 and 500 arenas combined are essentially 6 Stocking Stuffers a day.


300, 400, 500 means number of rounds?
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