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I didn't know of Pinyin, but yeah... that sounds like the sort of thing I may have done if I had the money. :\
Of course, this begs the question. Since supply still comes from the individual players, couldn't you all have simply blacklisted him temporarily, rebuild your own supply of energy drinks, and start selling them en masse at a lower price until he is forced to lower his own prices down to market rate? I mean, that's what my economics textbook says should happen in situations like HV which are not conducive to monopolies but rather to perfect competition like scenarios...

There is nothing unethical about arbitrage in my opinion - but it's going to be a hot topic around here because the community operates on generosity and trust, especially towards newbies. Offering to buy things below their value is dishonest to that extent: it subverts the trust in the community. Ideally we'd want a player without knowledge of an item's worth to be able to comfortably sell it without losing out significantly.

Emphasis on significantly: I don't think there's anything wrong with offering to buy a slow-moving good at a lower price, because it offers people an option to make a quicker sale at lower profit.

But yeah - the reason is basically entirely community goodwill... it also helps avoid price gouging newbies on equipment-type goods where scarcity may make a piece close to unique in availability. For example... decondelite's auctions have a lot of items that a reseller could stand to profit heavily from entirely at the expense of a newer player.

Part of keeping this place friendly comes down to just avoiding practices that feel bad to an average person, too, even if it doesn't necessarily have philosophical basis. If you have to explain why something's not evil, doing so probably isn't going to make you many friends...

This post has been edited by lestion: May 28 2019, 06:03

Yeah, reseller arent the most liked persons around here. Blame piyin for that. I will probably never forget those 83k ED the did buy and look for yourself, he sells them for 110k. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I don't even think reselling would last long here given how fast people learn about them. And if one person is buying ED at 83K and reselling them at 110K I don't get why the sellers wouldn't raise their prices to the resell price or the buyers would refuse to pay much more than 83K.

There is nothing unethical about arbitrage in my opinion - but it's going to be a hot topic around here because the community operates on generosity and trust, especially towards newbies. Offering to buy things below their value is dishonest to that extent: it subverts the trust in the community. Ideally we'd want a player without knowledge of an item's worth to be able to comfortably sell it without losing out significantly.

Emphasis on significantly: I don't think there's anything wrong with offering to buy a slow-moving good at a lower price, because it offers people an option to make a quicker sale at lower profit.

But yeah - the reason is basically entirely community goodwill... it also helps avoid price gouging newbies on equipment-type goods where scarcity may make a piece close to unique in availability. For example... decondelite's auctions have a lot of items that a reseller could stand to profit heavily from entirely at the expense of a newer player.

Part of keeping this place friendly comes down to just avoiding practices that feel bad to an average person, too, even if it doesn't necessarily have philosophical basis. If you have to explain why something's not evil, doing so probably isn't going to make you many friends...

This... makes a lot of sense! I certainly don't want to be "that guy" who ruins stuff for others. Thank you for your explanation on WTS/WTB good faith conduct! I greatly appreciate it.

Although really, can someone tell me the story of Pinyin? If nothing else, I will take it as an important cautionary tale.

This... makes a lot of sense! I certainly don't want to be "that guy" who ruins stuff for others. Thank you for your explanation on WTS/WTB good faith conduct! I greatly appreciate it.

Although really, can someone tell me the story of Pinyin? If nothing else, I will take it as an important cautionary tale.

Let's not discuss the misconduct of individual members in this thread.

In general, trying to make a profit isn't against the rules. What could get a member banned (temporary or permanent) is breaking the forum rules. For instance: flaming / insulting others or trading with access to more than one account.

mom's here, guys, scatter/act nicely

mom's here, guys, scatter/act nicely

alright, alright, I'm leaving already

Although really, can someone tell me the story of Pinyin? If nothing else, I will take it as an important cautionary tale.

Do you know any fary tale with a child eating witch? Just replace the witch with Pinyin and the child eating with very aggressive and abusive cheap buying/expensive selling. The end. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

mom's here, guys, scatter/act nicely

Dont worry, uncle still has some candy free MG Material. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: May 28 2019, 10:28

This seems to go off topic a little too often.

Remember, this is the topic: (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Am I still allowed in this thread after completing a bounty? I'm still poorer than most of the recent posters...

Dont worry, uncle still has some candy free MG Material. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Can I get some mid grade wood?
I'd love to put Uncle's wood in my mouth staff.

This post has been edited by randomuser1234: May 29 2019, 06:35

Can I get some mid grade wood?

But dont tell your mother you got something before dinner. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Am I still allowed in this thread after completing a bounty? I'm still poorer than most of the recent posters...
Can I get some mid grade wood?

Poverty in HV (and for that matter most RPGs) is a relative thing. To a newb like me, having 500k credits feels pretty pretty wealthy, but I understand that 500lvl players consider that poverty-level. Even for myself, I recall back when I was lvl 80 how 50k credits felt like an enormous sum.

So take comfort. You probably have much more money than I do, but you are still probably poor in someone's eyes XD

Am I still allowed in this thread after completing a bounty? I'm still poorer than most of the recent posters...

Actually, poverty in this game is more related to the daily income than the total amount of your possessions.

Actually, poverty in this game is more related to the daily income than the total amount of your possessions.

Unless your possessions are sooo huge, even gigantic, that they keep you going for a long time.

I.E. just as in RL (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

But basically, yes, the balance of daily/weekly/monthly earning vs. same period expenditures is what makes you poor (or rich) IN the game.

Then again, there are possible out-of-game incomes. Star selling, bounty hunting, running servers.

Those are what makes players real Rich Players, aristocracy, not grinding.
Grinding is for "workers" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Again, just as in RL (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

finally back to 1million credits.
ain't much, but feeling slightly less poor

Guys i read a manga and
I thought it is somewhat funny when considering this thread name

I... I see! That's how I should be treating the beggars in the FreeSHop! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Hardcore Levelling Warrior! Definitely my favourite thing on webtoon right now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well, that guy is definitely not an uncle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Free MG Materials. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Just posting this, 'cause I wanted to make post #5000 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)