[X] My Assistant

Not many people come here nowadays huh?

Good to see the goddess of fortune is smiling to everyone but me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

*goes back to sell matches*

Yeah, i know. No one want my free MG Materials. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Not many people come here nowadays huh?

Good to see the goddess of fortune is smiling to everyone but me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

*goes back to sell matches*

Eh, I'm poor,
but not a miser,
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Eh, I'm poor,
but not a miser,

So, i guess you also wont want any free MG Materials. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Eh, I'm poor,
but not a miser,
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Eh, I'm still poor,
but not a miser anymore
(mainly thanks to 3 generous people) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

P.S. But this thread is so deserted lately, it makes my heart ache of sorrow

I can understand people being busy with the Easter Event recently, but I wish it could be revived a bit now.

This post has been edited by mundomuñeca: Apr 30 2019, 02:15

Resident poor player here. On a decent day I make about 50-60k clearing through Arena's, seldomly dumping useless equipments into the bazaar and playing Random Encounters. Luckily with that kind of budget I can still participate in WTS/Shops and buy needed shards, scrap and occasionally a somewhat valuable equip for my level. Once I build up enough credits (usually low-mid 6 digits) I'll spend some on trainings which I'm currently at 190/300 on Adept Learner.

I would like to be able to make more credits per day, thought later down the road once I fully settle and importantly understand mage playstyle needs and good equipments on that end and so forth I'd like to invest in a somewhat high end/quality scanner to take on bounties on E-hentai and incorporate those earnings into benefitting me as I play HV as well.

I feel like like, unless you're active in the community (forums, correspondence with friendly users on MM) That day to day for mid-level players like me earning credits just becomes stagnant. Which feels the case as I only will be getting one more big influx of credits from the last arena on Dances With Dragons. Although getting active just before the Easter event helped me as I was able for the first time to get 1mil+ in credits by selling some assorted coins so that is a nice feeling and with that improved my equipment as well as branching out by getting new equipment for another playstyle too.

I guess if I had a question, it would be what is the most efficient method to consistently earning more credits than already stated in the Do's and Don't guide?

Thanks to those if you read through all this. Something I wanted to vent for awhile and seeing as this thread could use some new activity I hope a post like this could start some new discussion. ^^

I guess if I had a question, it would be what is the most efficient method to consistently earning more credits than already stated in the Do's and Don't guide?

Well, i dont give much about guides, so i am not actually sure what is writen in those. But i would say, there are generally three things you could do ingame to increase your income. Increase your monsterlab, get additional drop training, play more. With everything outside of that, i dont really have much experience. Well, okay, i did increase my income quite a bit with my new own shop. Or at least if feels like it. It has been a while that i actually did keep track of how much credits i make in a week/month or so.

And no, stars are if you -like me- buy them with credits are a very unefficient way of increasing your income, i have to admit that.

Btw, do you want some free MG Materials?

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Apr 30 2019, 05:24

I guess if I had a question, it would be what is the most efficient method to consistently earning more credits than already stated in the Do's and Don't guide?

Last easter is also my first HV Event. It's a great income boost isn't it? I didn't make much, as I only sell, hmm, 30 of them, I'm unsure.

Anyway, you aren't only made 50k a day. If you do SG Arenas, you can sell trophies. To WTB threads of course, not to bazaar. Amnesia shards and select few scrolls are other people sought after. And do create some monster. Their most precious gifts (Binding of Slaughter, Binding of Destruction, and Crystallized Phazon) are given without them even killed anyone (they indeed bring good stuff like Binding of Protection, Raccoon, Owls, etc when they have a win). It's not big, but you make 2-3 million a month.

To have even higher income, you can do bounty. Standard bounty where you buy and scan doujin with your own money and your own scanner, translation bounty where you translate them, and editing bounty. Translation bounty seems to be the most profitable. It's a quick money if you have a good grasp of Japanese. I know a few HV-er who did translation and few others who just starting out.

I have translation bounty by the way. I haven't boosted it (no credit yet, but soon™). At current reward, it pay so low. So very very low. But if you're feeling charitable, you could do it. :wink: :wink: :nudge: :nudge:

Btw, do you want some free MG Materials?

LOL, you're really trying to get rid of them, aren't you?
Alright, sell me those if they're wood and clothes. I think I have few hundred thousand credit.

This post has been edited by feathered: Apr 30 2019, 05:52

LOL, you're really trying to get rid of them, aren't you?

That is what i do in the club, beside giving emotional support and giving advice. "Trying to get rid of them" is just completly wrong.

Alright, sell me those if they're wood and clothes. I think I have few hundred thousand credit.

Nope, i wont sell you even a single one. If you want to buy some, i suggest one of the many shops in WTS who sell them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Stuff.

Btw, do you want some free MG Materials?

Thanks for the advice, I'll consider it but seems more time consuming tracking the forum side of things to make little profit in credits (especially since at my level I'll be wanting to hold onto and use the in-battle items and such for awhile)

I'll take some materials if you're open to it as well thanks!

Stuff + shameless translation bounty plug.

So I have been investing chaos tokens to create more and more monsters in the lab. Currently at 13 monsters, all active and level 25+ So I'll be sure to get materials every 3 days. I also have 5 50+ as well as one that is currently level 135. But I don't think the slight level range on the monsters matters since they need to be really high level to start guarenteering the better quality gifts. I have received binding of slaughter once as well as the Crystallized Phazon once as well. So I feel I have a pretty good investment and interestingly some of my monsters have wins now too. I've been holding onto the Amnesia Shards and scrolls since I'd figure I need to use them eventually and it seems like most of the scrolls give little profit if sold to other players.

I mostly play (if time permits) The Trio and the Tree arena and those above it on a daily basis or whatever amounts to about 15-24~ stamina worth a day. I mainly focus on triggering the random encounters since I'm often not on my computer 24/7 to actively clear through the arenas. I find the two arenas after Tree arena to be too time consuming due to the schoolgirls having high hp (though with a good connection and with hardly any input lag it's just a matter of holding down a button until the next battle).

When it comes to bounties I'll probably do the standard ones once I get a proper setup first. I have zero knowledge of the Japanese language so the translation route is probably not going to be it and I lack a creative/designing process and the experience to handle the editing ones too. (I'll kick in a small contribution to your bounty even if I don't like the content all too much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

Anyway, thanks for the advice. I think I'm currently on the right track but good to hear from you two thus far. If I have more time away from my personal life day to do there seems to be easy ways to boost my day to day credits but perhaps on a rainy day I'll look into the other ways to better my earnings and help contribute to the community too.

P.S. Love how fitting your current avatar is feathered! <3

Thanks for the advice, I'll consider it but seems more time consuming tracking the forum side of things to make little profit in credits (especially since at my level I'll be wanting to hold onto and use the in-battle items and such for awhile)

Oh, i am sorry, but the shop wasnt really an advice. And the actually important thing is, having something to sell, the prices are quite easy to find imo. Just look at the expensive shops and be a little bit below those with your own, make sure that you .... , and profit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I'll take some materials if you're open to it as well thanks!

Sure, what sort do you want?

But I don't think the slight level range on the monsters matters since they need to be really high level to start guarenteering the better quality gifts.

You mean materials, well they start at 500, which is something not that hard to reach, at least for a single or just a few monster. But i have to admit, now that i have quite some monster at PL 549, the actuall difference in income is quite small and even worse, it is quite random, because chance for them to bring HG stuff is so small. I allready do wonder, at what PL this gets better.

it seems like most of the scrolls give little profit if sold to other players.

Actually i think you just need some more of them, even small numbers get big when you multiply them enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Apr 30 2019, 06:52

Oh, i am sorry, but the shop wasnt really an advice. And the actually important thing is, having something to sell, the prices are quite easy to find imo. Just look at the expensive shops and be a little bit below those with your own, make sure that you .... , and profit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Sure, what sort do you want?
You mean materials, well they start at 500, which is something not that hard to reach, at least for a single or just a few monster. But i have to admit, now that i have quite some monster at PL 549, the actuall difference in income is quite small and even worse, it is quite random, because chance for them to bring HG stuff is so small. I allready do wonder, at what PL this gets better.
Actually i think you just need some more of them, even small numbers get big when you multiply them enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Ahh makes sense @ shops.

Little bit of metal and some leather would be nice on the materials (Primarily running DW with shade armors)

Maybe if I boost a couple to level 500+ that could help but apparently it doesn't make much of a difference since the item pool is so large on what monsters can bring as a gift anyway.

Good to know on the last part if buyers are looking to buy in bulk...


Thanks for spending the time thoughtfully replying to me and looking for to the materials if you wish to send me them! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Maybe if I boost a couple to level 500+ that could help but apparently it doesn't make much of a difference since the item pool is so large on what monsters can bring as a gift anyway.

About this: specifically, raising their level allows them to possibly bring high-grade materials (like high-grade metals etc) but bindings and special crafting reagents like shade fragments are available at any level. There's also a point at which they no longer have low-grade materials in their pool, and higher still, where they no longer have mid-grade in their pool either - but that's ~p1500. More info is available on the wiki where you can also see the rough crystal cost of getting them to those levels.

Anyway, the point of why it's encouraged to get as many monsters as possible is because besides HGC, the really valuable stuff is available at any level, so you want as many chances to get them as possible.

This post has been edited by lestion: Apr 30 2019, 07:15

Little bit of metal and some leather would be nice on the materials (Primarily running DW with shade armors)

Sent. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Maybe if I boost a couple to level 500+ that could help but apparently it doesn't make much of a difference since the item pool is so large on what monsters can bring as a gift anyway.

Yeah, it is nothing, that will increase your income within a short time. If you do this, you have to look at it as a longtherm investment. So, if you are no fan of longtherm investmens, dont do it, keep your monster small and cheap and you will be much happier with them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Good to know on the last part if buyers are looking to buy in bulk...

Well, not just bulks, but quite often when people to buy something, they do buy the whole stock. And i understand that. When i actually buy something it has to be worth it and should last a while.

Thanks for spending the time thoughtfully replying to me and looking for to the materials if you wish to send me them! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You are welcome, that is why i am here and feel free to ask again, in a while, when you need some more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

About this: specifically, raising their level allows them to possibly bring high-grade materials (like high-grade metals etc) but bindings and special crafting reagents like shade fragments are available at any level. There's also a point at which they no longer have low-grade materials in their pool, and higher still, where they no longer have mid-grade in their pool either - but that's ~p1500. More info is available on the wiki where you can also see the rough crystal cost of getting them to those levels.

Anyway, the point of why it's encouraged to get as many monsters as possible is because besides HGC, the really valuable stuff is available at any level, so you want as many chances to get them as possible.

Thanks for the reply! I haven't checked that page in awhile but good to know, I have been noticing that High Grade Cloth seems the most valuable out of all the basic materials given. I'll probably continue to do what I'm doing until the cost to create a new monster gets too high for me (I think the next one only needs 23 tokens which is doable) then start dumping crystals rapidly to boost their levels but right now I've just been using crystals seldomly to restore their morale as needed.



@ Uncle Stu
Good to know

This post has been edited by Analogdoujin: Apr 30 2019, 07:42

-snip-

Unfortunately, just being "active" doesn't bring one credits. One has to to invest either time in the galleries (tagging, commenting, uploading, translation bounties, cleanup bounties, torrents...) or money (buying doujins, H@H) to have a reliable source of credits.
But playing the game? Doesn't earn one much, I'm a perfect example of that.

Even when it comes to monsters, it takes either a stupidly long and tedious gring to both have more of them and at higher PL, or to sink ludicrous amounts of GP in the lotteries + to buy crystal packs, to have them starting to bring just a little credits.

That if, if you consider selling their materials at all, because you'll soon need these materials to upgrade your equipment, and notice they don't bring in as much as you'd need. I have an army of 100 monsters myself, many with 110+% gift factor and above PL400, yet they barely bring in anything worthwhile, that I need to use for myself anyway.

HV is a credits sink, period.

Good news for poor players!
You can now request basic equipment sets up to Lvl300 instead of Lvl250. Enjoy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Resident poor player here. On a decent day I make about 50-60k clearing through Arena's, seldomly dumping useless equipments into the bazaar and playing Random Encounters.

That's not bad, especially if it doesn't conside Artifacts, and you play DW so I suppose you don't go for PFudor often (first page arenas may be). It's still around 1.5M per month.

I guess if I had a question, it would be what is the most efficient method to consistently earning more credits than already stated in the Do's and Don't guide?

Since I see that you registered in 2014, but you don't have cookies, and no one seemed to mention it, lety me point it out to you : if you partecipate in the Xmas lotteries each year, even if you don't win, you get a cookie (and some other valuable trophy).
Those cookies give you 1 Hath automatically at each Dawn-of-a-new-Day, i.e. 365 Haths per cookie per year.
Without even playing, only logging in.

Since you don't have a goldstar, unless you plan to acquire one soon (one GS, which gives you all the cookies immediately), it is a very welcome little improving. You can see under my Avatar I got two from the last two Xmas, and after some time it makes a difference. At least it means you can get IA 1 & 2 without spending credits. It's a bit late to start getting cookies at your level, but better few then nothing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Good points there decondelite. I thought when I started playing that while keeping HV fun at the same time that I could be able to make a consistent amount of currency through the game. I suppose many of the active players that also participate in the forums find other outlets in the community to help earn them currency in decent enough of volumes too...Of course I definitely am having fun still casually playing the game, though I worry about plateauing after I make it past level 300 since there's not really much else in the game to do aside from eventually tackling Grindfests.

That's not bad, especially if it doesn't conside Artifacts, and you play DW so I suppose you don't go for PFudor often (first page arenas may be). It's still around 1.5M per month.
Since I see that you registered in 2014, but you don't have cookies, and no one seemed to mention it, lety me point it out to you : if you partecipate in the Xmas lotteries each year, even if you don't win, you get a cookie (and some other valuable trophy).
Those cookies give you 1 Hath automatically at each Dawn-of-a-new-Day, i.e. 365 Haths per cookie per year.
Without even playing, only logging in.

Since you don't have a goldstar, unless you plan to acquire one soon (one GS, which gives you all the cookies immediately), it is a very welcome little improving. You can see under my Avatar I got two from the last two Xmas, and after some time it makes a difference. At least it means you can get IA 1 & 2 without spending credits. It's a bit late to start getting cookies at your level, but better few then nothing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I've cleared (maybe once of twice) the first pages of arena's as recently as within 10 levels ago on PFUDOR difficulty but I mainly stick to playing on Hell-Nintendo for arenas and IWBTH on Random Encounters. I don't sell Artifacts but I have traded Energy Drinks/Crystallized Phazon at once to where I was able to buy figurines in one sitting to unlock Orbital Friendship Cannon. (Shoutouts to fihero and ST-Ru for those transactions).

And yes, registered in 2014 but I've been mainly a lurker so I can view through gallieries better and access more content. Only recently in 2019 have I decided to be actively playing HV. I have considered getting Gold Star but personally I am a little leery using Bitcoin/cash for that transaction. Might go for the WTB option in the form of credits if I want to pursue that someday. Good to know that it does retroactively give you all the cookies from previous years past though! Too bad there's a significant gap I feel after paying for the postage page perk (10 hath I think) where as other in-game perks start at 50... (If anything, I'd like to have the Gold Star perk to do a much needed name change since I don't think there is any other way to do one)

Thanks again to everyone who replied to my topic in this thread, and I hope other lurkers/newer/mid level players get some good info from this discussion too. <3

If i remember right, all arenas on PF give from 200k to 400k. Big part is artifacts (good idea to invest a bit), but there are also hidden items. What i mean is, from time to time person get decent equip drops and sometimes very good. Its rare, but because its very expensive then it strongly affects even daily profit. Single lab slot gives around 12-15k profit in month even at very low pl. 50 slots already give you 10m in year. There are many ways how to make huge amount of money. If you have 1-2m credits (including selling your set), then you already can do 150-200k/hour (but maybe limited amount of time, because free stamina is significant factor).