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post Jan 26 2019, 12:42
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The math is not going to land far from market price though. Like I've said, if there's any significant profit, people will buy and PA prices will go up until it (almost) matches.

Difference being it's still a gamble. You can land on either side of the bell curve, at least it isn't like vegas where you'll always lose in the long run.
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post Jan 26 2019, 12:54
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There are imo just not enough possible outcomes to actually call it a gamble, like i said, when the numbers are high enough RNG does loose its meaning. And i still dont see that big profit i am suppose to loose by just shrine them all the time.


I mean highest price in WTB i can find is 22.2k so i dont see any profit at all by selling them.

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post Jan 26 2019, 13:15
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I sell PAs@23k at WTS, and people do buy them.
There are who buy PA@22.5k+ @WTB. Just that you don't see everyday or that you don't pay attention.
It doesn't take mins to calculate which is more profitable. And it doesn't bother me to sell PAs instead of EDs, even though it's small profits.

Nothing to be serious about. But I'll do whatever is more profitable since I know it.
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post Jan 26 2019, 13:19
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Jan 26 2019, 12:15) *

I sell PAs@23k at WTS, and people do buy them.
There are who buy PA@22.5k+ @WTB. Just that you don't see everyday or that you don't pay attention.

22.2k is what i see right now, and because i never did sell them i did never care, so actually a few minutes ago was the first time ever i actually did look prices for them up. So to me it is no surprise that i was okay with 28k, because never did care and so i didnt knew the prices. And okay you sell at WTS, but how many people actually do that? Most people will just sell them in the WTB.
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post Jan 26 2019, 14:49
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I think you're making this too complicated. I want to shrine my artifacts instead of selling them, so I shrine and don't sell them. No need for complicated math. This is a game after all, and not business. (Doesn't mean I don't have fun doing some min-maxing in games, but I wouldn't force myself to play a way I don't want for it.)
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post Jan 26 2019, 15:00
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Ehm, i did allways shrine my artifacts. This calculation up there made i for the first time ever. So i didnt complecated anything, it was just an answer to ihatenamingthings question. I mean if i would actually care about such things in the end, i hadnt just five away stuff for free with a worth of alltogether around, hm, let me calculate a bit. Wow, i guess i did sent stuff for around 12M over the time plus or minus 1 or 2 m, i didnt really keep track.
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post Jan 26 2019, 23:14
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Jan 26 2019, 03:21) *

I do not think you're a reference, because your luck is above average. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I never had high ED rates, always inside the 15-20% range, though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 27 2019, 02:01
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QUOTE(Nicosai @ Jan 26 2019, 12:49) *

I think you're making this too complicated. I want to shrine my artifacts instead of selling them, so I shrine and don't sell them. No need for complicated math. This is a game after all, and not business. (Doesn't mean I don't have fun doing some min-maxing in games, but I wouldn't force myself to play a way I don't want for it.)

For my part, I consider that business needs to be profitable enough to net more than what one would net by just playing the game for the same amount of time.
So doing that thing with EDs and PAs... clearly not worth it. By the time one toyed around with that, I made dozens of thousands of credits, chaos tokens and a few Mag+ drops.
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post Jan 27 2019, 09:18
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Just to make it visible. I am sure Noni does still trade elixir
QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 25 2019, 11:17) *

any poor player want to trade his/her health elixir for my mana elixir? I can do this 500 times, but only for poor players (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

and some strange person that calls himself an uncle does still give away MG Materials. A really weird guy i can tell you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 27 2019, 14:03
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 27 2019, 09:18) *

Just to make it visible. I am sure Noni does still trade elixir

and some strange person that calls himself an uncle does still give away MG Materials. A really weird guy i can tell you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


And even stranger people beg for karma (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

So all you here club pals, please shower me with your karma (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 27 2019, 16:08
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I'm poor apparently because I don't have luck...

This week I spent 4 golden tickets in the four pots that I really want (two max, 2 half of max) and I barely got one of the last chaos token prize. And I have joined 9 pots with each 10-25% with Do Not Want and I never appear in the consolation prize, what happens to my tickets LOL

DId I misunderstand something? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jan 27 2019, 16:17
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QUOTE(mouisaac @ Jan 27 2019, 09:08) *

I'm poor apparently because I don't have luck...

This week I spent 4 golden tickets in the four pots that I really want (two max, 2 half of max) and I barely got one of the last chaos token prize. And I have joined 9 pots with each 10-25% with Do Not Want and I never appear in the consolation prize, what happens to my tickets LOL

DId I misunderstand something? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

bad luck man, but even if you don't want the equipment and you only care about the chaos tokens or more golden tickets, i wouldn't waste them on pots that have less than 200k tickets in
or if you want tokens that much, you could invest in tokenizer 1 and just play the game
wait, did you want some equipment in particular, apart from that peerless ethereal rapier, don't know what other thing you might've wanted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Jan 27 2019, 16:30
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Jan 27 2019, 16:17) *

wait, did you want some equipment in particular, apart from that peerless ethereal rapier, don't know what other thing you might've wanted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)



He might have wanted the Peerless Cobalt Shade Leggings of the Arcanist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I wanted that too, but I put only 10 tickets in it. I'm never surprised or angry when I don't win (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 27 2019, 16:33
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Uncle is everytime pissed when he doesnt get his Peerl Savage Power Armor Piece of Protection. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) How the hell is he suppose to finish his defense set when neither in the lottery nor in auction he can compete with all those rich people. Uncle will never play as mage because of this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Jan 27 2019, 16:35
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jan 27 2019, 09:30) *

He might have wanted the Peerless Cobalt Shade Leggings of the Arcanist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I wanted that too, but I put only 10 tickets in it. I'm never surprised or angry when I don't win (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

that's the thing i was referring to, there hasn't been that many good pieces on the lotteries lately, i wouldn't consider that piece as good, if you're going for shade it should be a shadowdancer piece, or a fleet one if you aren't picky, or just buy one decent one from auctions, they aren't that expensive, though low-leveled ones would be scarce

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post Jan 27 2019, 16:37
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Jan 27 2019, 09:17) *

bad luck man, but even if you don't want the equipment and you only care about the chaos tokens or more golden tickets, i wouldn't waste them on pots that have less than 200k tickets in
or if you want tokens that much, you could invest in tokenizer 1 and just play the game
wait, did you want some equipment in particular, apart from that peerless ethereal rapier, don't know what other thing you might've wanted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Yes, I have guessed. It's funny that I have won one time a consolation prize with 0.1% last month when I don't really care about the lottery and now I do care and after I dumped my credits nothing came out from it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Already have token I... Oh, do you mean it is better if I simply join a big pot with Do Not Want to get the golden tickets? I ran out of the golden tickets and the system just don't want to give me another one. I was hoping for the shields and power armors (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jan 27 2019, 16:43
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Never ever had i even owned a golden ticket. What does it feels like? Does it taste like hope? I bet it taste like hope. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jan 27 2019, 18:35
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jan 27 2019, 11:43) *



Uncle, changed my build to Heavy/1h not power since I'm poor and relying on Self Drop mostly.

Should I focus on one status or I'm good for now?

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That was a mistake, I thought that I was in the Ask forum.


I'm spent ow that I bought all I could of pots and draughts.

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post Jan 27 2019, 18:48
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Well i will just quote and answer you there. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 28 2019, 16:02
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As soon as I don't hit Do Not Want, I got the item, but all I want is a golden ticket (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Guess no one actually aims for it, dumb me...
Wish there is no limit on the inventory size, so that I can collect junk without hesitation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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