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post Apr 28 2018, 14:13
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Just for reference. Any mage can tell me how much time it'll be needed to clear a maybe 86-round IW? I suppose mage will need scrolls, right?....

My 1H needs 10mins~11mins, 2.5+t/s
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post Apr 28 2018, 15:03
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Apr 28 2018, 14:13) *

Just for reference. Any mage can tell me how much time it'll be needed to clear a maybe 86-round IW? I suppose mage will need scrolls, right?....

My 1H needs 10mins~11mins, 2.5+t/s


3 minutes
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post Apr 28 2018, 15:07
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 28 2018, 21:03) *

3 minutes

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ......I don't know what to say. I see
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post Apr 28 2018, 18:16
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Apr 28 2018, 06:32) *
If the shadowdancer is out of reach what kind of suffix i should choose as an alternative?

I don't really pay attention to suffix because I want max pabs, but shadowdancer and fleet have the same evade bonus so I'd put those first. I guess negation would come third, but arcanist's extra pabs also give a little extra resist on top of cheaper spells and a significant sp boost. It's up to the player's preference. None of the suffixes are bad, but if someone wants to use mace with shade for some reason, I'd put arcanist on top because the biggest slowdown comes from recasting imperil, and mace needs it to land on every single monster. Not worth spending 5k on aether shards (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 28 2018, 20:07
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Offensively Negation is the worst, since Arcanist has slightly better ADB rolls than everything else.


So:

For damage: Shadowdancer >>>> Arcanist > Fleet = Negation

For survivability: Shadowdancer = Fleet > Negation >> Arcanist

For damage AND survivability: Shadowdancer > Fleet > Negation = Arcanist
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post Apr 28 2018, 22:41
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Apr 28 2018, 12:32) *
So 2h is estoc+agile armor. If the shadowdancer is out of reach what kind of suffix i should choose as an alternative?

Fleet. It's exactly like Shadowdancer, minus the crit bonus.
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post Apr 28 2018, 23:54
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Apr 28 2018, 23:16) *

I don't really pay attention to suffix because I want max pabs, but shadowdancer and fleet have the same evade bonus so I'd put those first. I guess negation would come third, but arcanist's extra pabs also give a little extra resist on top of cheaper spells and a significant sp boost. It's up to the player's preference. None of the suffixes are bad, but if someone wants to use mace with shade for some reason, I'd put arcanist on top because the biggest slowdown comes from recasting imperil, and mace needs it to land on every single monster. Not worth spending 5k on aether shards (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Well, i never use deprecating spell when i reached 370+, it's slow me down (because i play on mobile (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )

QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Apr 29 2018, 01:07) *

Offensively Negation is the worst, since Arcanist has slightly better ADB rolls than everything else.
So:

For damage: Shadowdancer >>>> Arcanist > Fleet = Negation

For survivability: Shadowdancer = Fleet > Negation >> Arcanist

For damage AND survivability: Shadowdancer > Fleet > Negation = Arcanist



QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 29 2018, 03:41) *

Fleet. It's exactly like Shadowdancer, minus the crit bonus.


Thank you for the advices, shadowdancer then fleet for the second choice....
I'll try it...
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post Apr 29 2018, 09:56
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Apr 28 2018, 05:12) *

For me, it's still unbelievable (because i never tried once (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) but when i watched the video that posted few days ago, i think mage is undefeatable....

Which kind of scientist builds a theory based on one data alone? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Apr 30 2018, 02:27
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Edit: Looks like embedded quotes from a separate thread breaks the quote function.
From https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?act=f...amp;pid=5138667 :

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me: I'll buy it if you don't want it. I actually found a use for curse weaver.

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Juggernaut Santa: Enlighten us. I am curious.

I've been playing low diffs with no-imperil, and I noticed as I moved up the difficulties and added imperil and debuffs, I was taking more damage from the buffing phase than the attacking phase. So I tried using curseweavers to increase the casting speed, and it actually worked. If you're not rich enough for serious 1-hit pwnage, using curseweaver lets you get in an extra attacking spell to get those kills, meaning you take less damage and need less/no heals and save more time.

The timeline is like
db - db - get hit - cure - attack - get hit a lot - cure again

but with curseweaver
db - db - maybe get hit once or twice - attack - attack again (kills) - get hit by stragglers

Doubt it works for pfudor but on hentai and below it checks out. You lose too much damage and they resist and attack too fast to get around it. I don't think there's a cheap way to get around the raw cast speed requirement for pfudor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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Scre: just trying a thing. don't mind me. and feel free to remove this line, if you want.

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post Apr 30 2018, 03:22
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 29 2018, 14:56) *

Which kind of scientist builds a theory based on one data alone? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


Haha...
Sorry, it's my own perspective that never playing mage, but now i enlighten enough even though i will always play 1h ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Apr 30 2018, 04:07
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Apr 30 2018, 02:27) *

using curseweavers to increase the casting speed


Did someone move this post from the other topic (I got answered here from the Legendary Equipment topic)? When I quote this message, I get an error 503 (I manually edited the ID, nick and date in my post to make the quote (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) ).

Anyway, that is NOT how it works.
Charged increases casting speed, not Curse-Weaver.
You're better off going for Charged Cotton of *insert your element*'s proficiency pieces, or for Charged Phase.

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post Apr 30 2018, 04:38
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Lower the cast time and mana cost of spells by up to 25% (based on spell) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Charged mjo$nir isn't happening so I'd have to settle for charged elementalist, and even that won't be an easy buy since one of those two is already a 3-pab mag. The stick got 3 pen/spell/econ on the first try and I don't know if it's worth rerolling to get spell 5. Effort would be better spent trying to get faster dwd times with holy. It shouldn't be losing to dw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Apr 30 2018, 07:56
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For my part, I'd totally consider a single Charged of CW in my set to land Imperil better, instead of a 5th phase that won't boost the damage that much.
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post Apr 30 2018, 12:20
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Apr 30 2018, 04:07) *

Did someone move this post from the other topic (I got answered here from the Legendary Equipment topic)? When I quote this message, I get an error 503 (I manually edited the ID, nick and date in my post to make the quote (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) ).

not that i know. but i have the same error, if that helps.

syntax of the post seems fine though. and even removing all those "_|_" didn't help. don't know what the problem could be (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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post Apr 30 2018, 12:39
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Apr 30 2018, 10:38) *

The stick got 3 pen/spell/econ on the first try and I don't know if it's worth rerolling to get spell 5.


If that Staff isn't a Top-one or you don't want to use it as an End-Game Staff and only play Pfudor Arena, I think try to get Penetrator Lv.5 is enough.
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post Apr 30 2018, 17:22
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[alt.hentaiverse.org] The stick in question. Not godlike but the price was good and it seriously outperforms [alt.hentaiverse.org] the old one. This will be end-game unless I can get LSWD money and the prof perk. I can't upgrade past 33 so it's still not where I want it yet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Apr 30 2018, 23:22) *

[alt.hentaiverse.org] The stick in question. Not godlike but the price was good and it seriously outperforms [alt.hentaiverse.org] the old one. This will be end-game unless I can get LSWD money and the prof perk. I can't upgrade past 33 so it's still not where I want it yet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


Because it's Redwood so I think just Penetrator Lv.5 is already OK, I don't recommend to use it as End-Game Staff, it's better to save Schards for a good LSWD.
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post May 1 2018, 11:26
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Labour day giveaway:
I'm giving away 10 precursor artifacts, 2 each to the first five who posts "Long live doggos" AND is under level 300.
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QUOTE(as013 @ May 1 2018, 16:26) *

Labour day giveaway:
I'm giving away 10 precursor artifacts, 2 each to the first five who posts "Long live doggos" AND is under level 300.


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I want it too btw...
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 1 2018, 17:47) *

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I want it too btw...

Do some arenas and you should get 2 artifacts.
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