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why do you all have such low negative balances?

edit: i guess to avoid understand i mean "minute negative balances"

Capitalism, man, we all depend of credit cards to buy stuff we don't really need to impress people that don't really care about us
oh you were talking about the game? capitalism, man

Can anyone tell me at what level we start seeing regular drops of Superior / Exquisite gear quality?

At 117 I am still mostly seeing fair to average gear. Had to buy most of my Superior from the in game market.

Can anyone tell me at what level we start seeing regular drops of Superior / Exquisite gear quality?

At 117 I am still mostly seeing fair to average gear. Had to buy most of my Superior from the in game market.

When you set your difficulty to iwbth or pfudor

Can anyone tell me at what level we start seeing regular drops of Superior / Exquisite gear quality?

At 117 I am still mostly seeing fair to average gear. Had to buy most of my Superior from the in game market.

You have to play at higher difficulties to see better gear, at pfudor the least quality you'll find is superior (apart from the arena clear round which can be average), obviously it's hard at your level, the best you can do is try to fight random encounters at the highest difficulty you can because they can have many monsters which means more drops + REs gives extra exp
invest a bit in adept learner

28M cr in negative balance atm.

I'm with you friend! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

55m negative balance atm, I, too, with both of you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Hm either we do something right, or terrible wrong. I wonder what is the correct answer. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

32M 800K cr in negative balance atm.

invest a bit in adept learner

Do not give that advice recklessly... And never, ever advice someone tp XP faster. This is a thing that cannot be rolled back once it's done.

Or at least give the proper warning that comes with it:
Leveling up sure has its advantages, but it also has its big, huge, extremely inconvenient inconvenients. I keep seeing countless players who are very displeased when they're told "bazaar / salvage" in the price check thread: this is one of the inconvenients. Having to invest an enormous amount of credits in forging in a short span is another.

Guess why I'm still lvl380 as of today, and guess why I'm often doing IW100/flee/IW100/flee 10 times before actually starting my arenas.

Do not give that advice recklessly... And never, ever advice someone tp XP faster. This is a thing that cannot be rolled back once it's done.

Or at least give the proper warning that comes with it:
Leveling up sure has its advantages, but it also has its big, huge, extremely inconvenient inconvenients. I keep seeing countless players who are very displeased when they're told "bazaar / salvage" in the price check thread: this is one of the inconvenients. Having to invest an enormous amount of credits in forging in a short span is another.

Guess why I'm still lvl380 as of today, and guess why I'm often doing IW100/flee/IW100/flee 10 times before actually starting my arenas.

Well, what do you expect, 98% of self drops are bazaar trash anyway, it should be a given no low level player should invest too much in forging, I do think it's better for players to reach lvl 300 soon so they can buy decent stuff in the auction, if the issue is the often change of equipment then they're probably not building with caution their setups
I remember having trouble as well, but once I got a mag rapier of slaughter and proper power equipment I didn't have to change gear, before listening to people's recommendations I used to wear shade and it did take too much time, people can try playing however they want, but there's a reason why it's the recommended setup

Do not give that advice recklessly... And never, ever advice someone tp XP faster. This is a thing that cannot be rolled back once it's done.

Or at least give the proper warning that comes with it:
Leveling up sure has its advantages, but it also has its big, huge, extremely inconvenient inconvenients. I keep seeing countless players who are very displeased when they're told "bazaar / salvage" in the price check thread: this is one of the inconvenients. Having to invest an enormous amount of credits in forging in a short span is another.

Guess why I'm still lvl380 as of today, and guess why I'm often doing IW100/flee/IW100/flee 10 times before actually starting my arenas.

1. You manage the Low-Level Auction and the FreeShop, so I think you understand how difficult it is that Players with low Level can get usable Equipments. Players should leveling up quickly to unlock all the Arenas, to unlock the important Skills, to be able to equip better and cheaper Equipments with high-Level, usw. If a Player can afford all the LV 300 Adept Learner at Level 0, I'll recommend them to get all af the Beginning.

2. Even if a Player can be displeased or disappointed, I still think we should tell him/her, that that Equipment little Value hat. People should learn, people should also grow up. We can also open a Thread with the Name "Pleased Price Check" and say that everthing has a high Price and auctionable, and then, will they be happy and get a lot of Credits with every Equipment?

We can also open a Thread with the Name "Pleased Price Check" and say that everthing has a high Price and auctionable, and then, will they be happy and get a lot of Credits with every Equipment?

What a cruel idea. Only a evil mastermind could come up with something like that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

What a cruel idea. Only a evil mastermind could come up with something like that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But i like that idea. My legendary drops are not so good (except what i'm equip now) and my peerless is not-so-useful-peerless. That's really heartbreaking... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

And when i now would lie to tell you that they are worth at least 100M and in the end you get nothing for them, would you feel better? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Apr 2 2018, 11:53

And when i now would lie to tell you that they are worth at least 100M and in the end you get nothing for them, would you feel better? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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That's the real heartbreaking...
It's snowflake's fault [crying out loud]

Well, let's try the truth. In the whole time i play this game, i got just sold two equipment pieces, that were worth more than 1M. And both where even peerl, so i did got much more crap as you could even imagen, and i cant see this change in the future. Crap is what you got. That is the equipment rule in this game.

1. You manage the Low-Level Auction and the FreeShop, so I think you understand how difficult it is that Players with low Level can get usable Equipments. Players should leveling up quickly to unlock all the Arenas, to unlock the important Skills, to be able to equip better and cheaper Equipments with high-Level, usw. If a Player can afford all the LV 300 Adept Learner at Level 0, I'll recommend them to get all af the Beginning.

2. Even if a Player can be displeased or disappointed, I still think we should tell him/her, that that Equipment little Value hat. People should learn, people should also grow up. We can also open a Thread with the Name "Pleased Price Check" and say that everthing has a high Price and auctionable, and then, will they be happy and get a lot of Credits with every Equipment?

You're kidding, right? There is more choice than ever today for low level players. Lvl200-300 Magnificent have become very common, even though Exquisite is already enough at that level. And one could Forge 5 an Exquisite Leather/Plate for cheap, mind you. Back then when I was Lvl250, it was either "get the Exquisite Plate crap from FreeSHop" or nothing. Though I had the incredible luck to find someone (don't remember who, but huge thanks) who insisted to give me my Exquisite Power set. And just guess who made it so that nowadays players don't meet that issue.

I might add that unlocking new abilities and obtaining more powerful equipment is also a consequence of the game becoming tougher with higher levels, to give you a chance to keep up with the pace. So no, it doesn't actually make the game any easier. The game appears easier later on only because you invested an enormous amount of credits in your equipment for it to be the case.

That set aside, by powerleveling, you find yourself at Lvl400 in no time. Yeah cool, but what did you actually earn? Nothing:

1. Your balance is low
2. Your trainings are crippled
3. You don't have any monsters little freaks with adorable puppy eyes that eat your credits
4. You have barely any knowledge/mastery of the game, given to you by players who might have personal interests in recommending you to play this or that way or whose opinion is biased to no end because they don't have any mastery themselves
5. You got scammed or you overpaid your stuff in the process
6. You wasted lots of soul fragments
7. You have spent a ludicrous amount of credits to forge your stuff
8. Every of your drops is unsellable crap.

And more importantly, you ruined every tiny bit of fun you could have in the game. You know nobody as much as nobody knows you. So much that you might aswell disappear from the HV forums just as fast as you appeared and nobody will even remember your name.

All this for what? Playing the frog that tries to make itself bigger than the beef? No one cares anyway. Having a hard time against lvl400 monsters with your near-full, medium-forged Legendary set while you could be in easy-mode against Lvl300 monsters with unforged Magnificent?

I do have seen loads and loads of players who were leveling up fast, believing that getting to higher levels would make everything better and/or reward them with something. I forgot most of them because hey the vast majority disappeared as quickly as they appeared, because hey that game made them bitter as soon as they realized that no, things aren't any better/easier at higher levels and they find themselves with nothing in their hands. So they've overworked very hard, only to achieve nothing but disillusionment.

Yeah, definitely a good advice to give to players... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

That's why I'm saying it's way better to "just" play the game, to take your time without forcing your XP progression. I am the perfect example for this: I'm Lvl380, zero XP training and I have everything all the powerlevelers are looking for. Equipment, knowledge/mastery, fun, monsters, fame, alcohol, smokes, drugs and bitches.

So if anything, I'm very, very well placed to say that kind of things. And to observe that uninterrupted flow of players who start way below me, get their GS, powerlevel and then wither away 20-40 levels above me because hey they do go through FreeSHop, my WTB/WTS and my auctions.

TL;DR
Player, don't do the error of leveling up at all costs to unlowk things / get access to higher quality equipment. It's a path that will only lead you to bitterness, despair, disillusionment and general bad game experience.

Your balance is low
Your trainings are crippled
You don't have any monsters little freaks with adorable puppy eyes that eat your credits
You have barely any knowledge/mastery of the game, given to you by players who might have personal interests in recommending you to play this or that way or whose opinion is biased to no end because they don't have any mastery themselves
You got scammed or you overpaid your stuff in the process
You wasted lots of soul fragments
You have spent a ludicrous amount of credits to forge your stuff
Every of your drops is unsellable crap.

I do have seen loads and loads of players who were leveling up fast, believing that getting to higher levels would make everything better and/or reward them with something. I forgot most of them because hey the vast majority disappeared as quickly as they appeared, because hey that game made them bitter as soon as they realized that no, things aren't any better/easier at higher levels and they find themselves with nothing in their hands. So they've overworked very hard, only to achieve nothing but disillusionment.

Damn real case here...I am that type of players and I knew it too late, also because I was just playing alone as leisure until lv3-400. I guess the only reason I keep playing HV is just because I am still rich enough to keep spending(wasting) my money, if not I would probably give up since Lv.400 or earlier.

With Maxed EXP Bonus training + perks, I boosted my lv really fast with a shitty 1H gear until ~Lv400, and everything just started bored: the way from Lv. 350 to 500 is really really long and quit meaningless. It will probably kill your fun if you just want to reach higher level without thinking seriously what will happen.

Not to mention I have nearly maxed 4 Drop Chance training with ~80M cr cost since Lv.300, but up to now my best drop is just 2M worth Elemental cotton shoes, never seen Radiant phase cloth or Peerless or sth like that. You really don't know your drop luck and all you have to do is wait. But if you leveling up too fast, your current equip will becomes crap and you cannot afford better gear for easier rounds in higher level/difficulty.

In worse case if you cannot handle x15/20 SG Arena or sth like that in high level and you end up playing low difficulty rounds with little returns or playing x20 random encounter only and just wait a 100M worth equip drop which can change your game life, it will be quite bitter and you may just want to quit the game before you really made it.

This post has been edited by Lastwizard05: Apr 2 2018, 16:11

You're kidding, right?

Sorry, I'm serious. What I can do is to use my Experience to make advice, and I'm not forcing People to do anything I've said. What I can do is to list the Advantages and Disadvantages (not much) for Leveling up, that I've experienced, the Players must choose and learn themselves, not only from me, but also from all the other Players here. If you think the Players like me can't "play" or "enjoy" this Game, that's my Answer: "I've enjoyed much from the Game selbst and from the Communication with other Players in this Forum those Years, and thank you for Caring about me. Even if that's not your Will, I'm still thankful."

100k if you stop using random german words in your posts and never ever start with it again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Apr 2 2018, 07:16) *
invest a bit in adept learner

Do not give that advice recklessly... And never, ever advice someone tp XP faster. This is a thing that cannot be rolled back once it's done.

Or at least give the proper warning that comes with it:
Leveling up sure has its advantages, but it also has its big, huge, extremely inconvenient inconvenients. I keep seeing countless players who are very displeased when they're told "bazaar / salvage" in the price check thread: this is one of the inconvenients. Having to invest an enormous amount of credits in forging in a short span is another.

Guess why I'm still lvl380 as of today, and guess why I'm often doing IW100/flee/IW100/flee 10 times before actually starting my arenas.

I second this. I stopped training AL after lv.100, the best decision I made. I deeply regret having pushed it to 46, now I have to keep my stamina under 80 before REs, to stop the 100% bonus from kicking in and make me level up faster than I want/need.

You already get 5% level up automatically from each Dawn, at low levels that's more than enough.
With some play even at 220 you can go up 2/3 levels a day without problems, at his level (around 100) 10 levels a day are easy-peasy without any boost.

Leveling up sure has its advantages, but it also has its big, huge, extremely inconvenient inconvenients. I keep seeing countless players who are very displeased when they're told "bazaar / salvage" in the price check thread: this is one of the inconvenients. Having to invest an enormous amount of credits in forging in a short span is another.

That's not the real problem.

Well, what do you expect, 98% of self drops are bazaar trash anyway, it should be a given no low level player should invest too much in forging, I do think it's better for players to reach lvl 300 soon so they can buy decent stuff in the auction, if the issue is the often change of equipment then they're probably not building with caution their setups
I remember having trouble as well, but once I got a mag rapier of slaughter and proper power equipment I didn't have to change gear, before listening to people's recommendations I used to wear shade and it did take too much time, people can try playing however they want, but there's a reason why it's the recommended setup

Exactly.

Any player can just level too 300 asap, then proceed to 1h with literally ANY gear and manage at least IWBTH.

The mistakes people do are the following:
- playing other styles because of lack of game knowledge (understandable)
- forging the "bad" gear above 5
- changing equipments too often (except when you swap averages when you're <100, of course)
- buying "good" gear at a too low level, paying it 10 times more than they should


Then, the only real problem for an HV high level player, after he avoided all the possible mistakes I listed above and much more is the following:
- HV 0.85 HP SYSTEM
Full stop.

Other than that, the higher the better.
Better scaling, more and cheaper equips, less soulfuse issues.

level up faster than I want/need.

I never have and probably never will understand this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)