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post Feb 11 2018, 22:28
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 11 2018, 23:17) *

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 11 2018, 23:04) *

Could you force them to bring me 1H Bindings instead of mage bindings? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


that, and much more (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)


This prompts me to ask another question : have anyone ever gathered data on the gifts received from monsters ?

What would be interesting for instance is to be able to compare a percentage of different types of bindings,
like, is the chance of getting Barrier higher/lower then the chance of BoS, or are all chances the same % ?

And do chances to get bindings vary with monster level and how ?
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post Feb 11 2018, 22:39
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Feb 11 2018, 21:28) *

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that, and much more (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
This prompts me to ask another question : have anyone ever gathered data on the gifts received from monsters ?

What would be interesting for instance is to be able to compare a percentage of different types of bindings,
like, is the chance of getting Barrier higher/lower then the chance of BoS, or are all chances the same % ?

And do chances to get bindings vary with monster level and how ?


Here are some logs by sssss2
QUOTE(sssss2 @ Aug 28 2016, 05:07) *

ML log for 100 days

CODE

=========================================
class_pl        |  average | mobs |  gift
-----------------------------------------
Dragonkin_2100  |   640.00 |    1 |   640
Daimon_2100     |   593.00 |    1 |   593
-----------------------------------------
Giant_870       |    90.00 |    1 |    90
-----------------------------------------
Elemental_756   |    82.38 |    8 |   659
Mechanoid_756   |    82.13 |    8 |   657
Reptilian_756   |    82.00 |    8 |   656
Celestial_756   |    81.88 |    8 |   655
Beast_756       |    79.88 |    8 |   639
Undead_756      |    79.57 |    7 |   557
Giant_756       |    79.14 |    7 |   554
Avion_756       |    78.50 |    8 |   628
Dragonkin_756   |    78.43 |    7 |   549
Arthropod_756   |    77.38 |    8 |   619
Sprite_756      |    76.75 |    8 |   614
Humanoid_756    |    74.67 |   12 |   896
Daimon_756      |        - |    - |     -

CODE

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// TOTAL                       |  9006

======================================
// Basic Materials             |  7692
--------------------------------------
Low-Grade Cloth                |     0
Mid-Grade Cloth                |   939
High-Grade Cloth               |   531
Low-Grade Leather              |     0
Mid-Grade Leather              |   937
High-Grade Leather             |   571
Low-Grade Metals               |     0
Mid-Grade Metals               |  1984
High-Grade Metals              |  1151
Low-Grade Wood                 |     0
Mid-Grade Wood                 |  1001
High-Grade Wood                |   578

======================================
// Rares                       |   104
--------------------------------------
Crystallized Phazon            |    31
Shade Fragment                 |    29
Repurposed Actuator            |    23
Defense Matrix Modulator       |    21

======================================
// Bindings                    |  1210
--------------------------------------
Binding of Slaughter           |    34
Binding of Balance             |    27
Binding of Isaac               |    31
Binding of Destruction         |    33
Binding of Focus               |    33
Binding of Friendship          |    21
Binding of Protection          |    27
Binding of Warding             |    32
Binding of the Fleet           |    37
Binding of the Barrier         |    32
Binding of the Nimble          |    37
Binding of Negation            |    25
Binding of the Ox              |    29
Binding of the Raccoon         |    45
Binding of the Cheetah         |    32
Binding of the Turtle          |    37
Binding of the Fox             |    33
Binding of the Owl             |    36
Binding of Surtr               |    36
Binding of Niflheim            |    29
Binding of Mjolnir             |    31
Binding of Freyr               |    24
Binding of Heimdall            |    23
Binding of Fenrir              |    37
Binding of the Elementalist    |    30
Binding of the Heaven-sent     |    28
Binding of the Demon-fiend     |    36
Binding of the Curse-weaver    |    36
Binding of the Earth-walker    |    28
Binding of Dampening           |    31
Binding of Stoneskin           |    28
Binding of Deflection          |    36
Binding of the Fire-eater      |    40
Binding of the Frost-born      |    36
Binding of the Thunder-child   |    32
Binding of the Wind-waker      |    27
Binding of the Thrice-blessed  |    37
Binding of the Spirit-ward     |    24


QUOTE(sssss2 @ Mar 28 2017, 18:45) *

4053 gifts for 20 days 2 hours

===================================
0 x Low-Grade Cloth
256 x Mid-Grade Cloth
449 x High-Grade Cloth
0 x Low-Grade Leather
247 x Mid-Grade Leather
422 x High-Grade Leather
0 x Low-Grade Metals
459 x Mid-Grade Metals
886 x High-Grade Metals
0 x Low-Grade Wood
273 x Mid-Grade Wood
429 x High-Grade Wood
-
16 x Crystallized Phazon
9 x Shade Fragment
11 x Repurposed Actuator
10 x Defense Matrix Modulator
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19 x Binding of Slaughter
21 x Binding of Balance
14 x Binding of Isaac
22 x Binding of Destruction
16 x Binding of Focus
25 x Binding of Friendship
16 x Binding of Protection
17 x Binding of Warding
12 x Binding of the Fleet
18 x Binding of the Barrier
13 x Binding of the Nimble
16 x Binding of Negation

15 x Binding of the Ox
16 x Binding of the Raccoon
16 x Binding of the Cheetah
13 x Binding of the Turtle
13 x Binding of the Fox
17 x Binding of the Owl
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15 x Binding of Surtr
15 x Binding of Niflheim
21 x Binding of Mjolnir
14 x Binding of Freyr
12 x Binding of Heimdall
17 x Binding of Fenrir
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9 x Binding of the Elementalist
19 x Binding of the Heaven-sent
17 x Binding of the Demon-fiend
20 x Binding of the Curse-weaver
18 x Binding of the Earth-walker
-
11 x Binding of Dampening
9 x Binding of Stoneskin
9 x Binding of Deflection
13 x Binding of the Fire-eater
16 x Binding of the Frost-born
10 x Binding of the Thunder-child
22 x Binding of the Wind-waker
11 x Binding of the Thrice-blessed
9 x Binding of the Spirit-ward
===================================

Roughly 1m credits per day...
CODE

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    pl 2250 | average |        
--------------------------------
     Daimon |  140.00 |        
  Dragonkin |  141.00 |        
--------------------------------

================================
    pl 1104 |  99 x A |  99 x B
--------------------------------
  Arthropod |   21.63 |   16.00
      Avion |   22.13 |   16.33
      Beast |   23.63 |   16.33
  Celestial |   21.75 |   16.56
  Dragonkin |   22.00 |   16.11
  Elemental |   21.50 |   17.11
      Giant |   21.63 |   14.44
   Humanoid |   22.67 |       -
  Mechanoid |   21.38 |   16.00
  Reptilian |   21.88 |   16.33
     Sprite |   20.88 |   17.22
     Undead |   21.75 |   15.44
--------------------------------
    overall |   21.93 |   16.17
        sum |    2171 |    1601
--------------------------------


* pl 1104 A : Scavenging 20, Brutality 10, Swiftness 5, Accuracy 5, Fortitude 20
* pl 1104 B : Scavenging 10, Brutality 5, Fortitude 10

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post Feb 11 2018, 22:40
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So far, my collection of dropped bindings seems to indicate that all bindings have the same drop chance, and that rares would be... rare.
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post Feb 11 2018, 23:30
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Feb 11 2018, 23:39) *

Here are some logs by sssss2


Very good, complete and exaustive. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) tyvm (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 11 2018, 23:40) *

So far, my collection of dropped bindings seems to indicate that all bindings have the same drop chance, and that rares would be... rare.


Thank you, gianfrix posted logs that also support that (in the limit of RNG).

Hence that means the differences in price between bindings (and difficulty or not of finding them in quantity in shops) are entirely due to the demand side, which is quite interestin fact in itself, imho ...
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post Feb 11 2018, 23:35
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Feb 11 2018, 21:40) *

So far, my collection of dropped bindings seems to indicate that all bindings have the same drop chance, and that rares would be... rare.

which seems to be the same conclusion we can see from ssss's datas...
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post Feb 12 2018, 21:10
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I've got a whole 55 credits to my name now. Finally poor again :/
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post Feb 13 2018, 00:48
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201c yesterday

get on my level my mans <( ̄︶ ̄)>
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post Feb 21 2018, 21:38
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Hey, now that everyone stopped buying trophies, is there someone willing to take some from a poor player ?

Small quantity, just about 20 in all, I would also accept hath instead of credits, plz. help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Feb 21 2018, 22:04
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Feb 21 2018, 20:38) *

Hey, now that everyone stopped buying trophies, is there someone willing to take some from a poor player ?

Small quantity, just about 20 in all, I would also accept hath instead of credits, plz. help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

i can take them, if we're speaking about only 20 of them.


btw, not planning to become a regular buyer. not rich enough for that.
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post Feb 21 2018, 22:50
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If nothing else,
Shrine all the trophies , to gamble for PHOH and auction the drops
(at least that is what i am doing from many months (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )
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post Feb 21 2018, 22:58
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Feb 21 2018, 23:50) *

If nothing else,
Shrine all the trophies , to gamble for PHOH and auction the drops
(at least that is what i am doing from many months (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )


With lowest tier trophies (and just a few of them), even dropping an Exq is almost impossible (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Dropping a PHOH would be like suicide-jumping from Eiffel tower and landing in New York without a scratch, finding also the winning ticket lottery under your shoes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Already sold to Scremaz anyway, thx dude (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Feb 23 2018, 12:50
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any donations to the poor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Feb 23 2018, 13:08
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QUOTE(sugargum @ Feb 23 2018, 18:50) *

any donations to the poor? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Do something that might surprise me and I will give you credits. How much depends on what level of surprise and what kind you can give me.
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post Feb 23 2018, 13:39
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QUOTE(as013 @ Feb 23 2018, 18:08) *

Do something that might surprise me and I will give you credits. How much depends on what level of surprise and what kind you can give me.


Give him [konachan.com] smiles or [konachan.com] present or [konachan.com] sacrifices

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post Feb 23 2018, 14:24
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spend half a million on the lottery, and then got 3 Caffeinated Candies. well......gonna stop buying tickets for some time I guess
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post Feb 23 2018, 14:38
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Feb 23 2018, 12:24) *

spend half a million on the lottery, and then got 3 Caffeinated Candies. well......gonna stop buying tickets for some time I guess

Well... you should know lottery with unpopular 1st prize is a place for the riches farming chaos tokens and EDs.
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 23 2018, 13:38) *

Well... you should know lottery with unpopular 1st prize is a place for the riches farming chaos tokens and EDs.

Tokens yes, ED, ehm, not so much. Every Caffeinated Candy is only 5 stamina. And when you have trained Archaeologist enough it is nearly impossible to run out of ED's. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Feb 23 2018, 20:38) *

Well... you should know lottery with unpopular 1st prize is a place for the riches farming chaos tokens and EDs.

I wanted 1st prize (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) ........
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Feb 23 2018, 20:35) *

Tokens yes, ED, ehm, not so much. Every Caffeinated Candy is only 5 stamina. And when you have trained Archaeologist enough it is nearly impossible to run out of ED's. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


That's why I always wait for uncle's ED giveaways... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Feb 23 2018, 15:48
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Feb 23 2018, 13:24) *
spend half a million on the lottery, and then got 3 Caffeinated Candies. well......gonna stop buying tickets for some time I guess


Hohohooo... You're far from knowing he ultimate level of salt, believe me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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