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Jan 20 2018, 00:35
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BlueWaterSplash
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Health Points = (50 + monster_level * 10 + END * 6) * difficulty_mod * class_mod * (1 + chaos_fortitude_rank * 5%)
I figured that after reducing difficulty_mod from like max 20 or so, down to 2 that something else would be increased to compensate. Because supposedly after the 0.85 change, high level players had a harder time than before on low difficulty (difficulty_mod 1).
The 10 coefficient for that "monster_level * 10" term never changed?
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Jan 20 2018, 01:06
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 19 2018, 23:35)  Health Points = (50 + monster_level * 10 + END * 6) * difficulty_mod * class_mod * (1 + chaos_fortitude_rank * 5%)
I figured that after reducing difficulty_mod from like max 20 or so, down to 2 that something else would be increased to compensate. Because supposedly after the 0.85 change, high level players had a harder time than before on low difficulty (difficulty_mod 1).
The 10 coefficient for that "monster_level * 10" term never changed?
I've double checked. The wiki's formula is obsolete. I'll fix it tomorrow. EDIT: Aaaand it's done. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=5056726This post has been edited by decondelite: Jan 21 2018, 15:44
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Jan 21 2018, 21:53
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BlueWaterSplash
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QUOTE(Tenboro) Monster health scaling was changed. Above level 100 it will shift more from difficulty to monster level, scaling up from 1x at level 100 to 4x at level 500. Max difficulty modifier was reduced from 8x to a 2x. Base health from endurance was reduced from 6 per point to 5 per point. Health Points = (50 + monster_level * 10 + END * 5) * difficulty_mod * level_mod * class_mod * (1 + chaos_fortitude_rank * 5%) level_mod = 1 + MAX(0 ; 3 * (monster_level - 100) / 400), effectively being 1 for Level 100 and below, capping at 4 for Level 500
Are you sure the revised formula is correct, or did you just copy Tenboro's description? Just curious. The thing I currently find questionable is that monster_level is now in the formula twice. I'll take another look at it soon. Oh and I remembered the old difficulty_mod wrong, Tenboro wrote it used to be maximum 8.
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Jan 21 2018, 22:39
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 21 2018, 20:53)  Health Points = (50 + monster_level * 10 + END * 5) * difficulty_mod * level_mod * class_mod * (1 + chaos_fortitude_rank * 5%) level_mod = 1 + MAX(0 ; 3 * (monster_level - 100) / 400), effectively being 1 for Level 100 and below, capping at 4 for Level 500
Are you sure the revised formula is correct, or did you just copy Tenboro's description? Just curious. The thing I currently find questionable is that monster_level is now in the formula twice. I'll take another look at it soon. Oh and I remembered the old difficulty_mod wrong, Tenboro wrote it used to be maximum 8.
I did check it to the extent I could. I've made calculations with a few PL2250 monsters I've met in battle, and so far my results are correct. For example, I found out that "President Donald Trump" would be Fortitude rank 16, according to that formula. But Jenga still hasn't confirmed if it was the case. Feel free to confront this formula to what you meet.
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Jan 22 2018, 15:53
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dio.med1989
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Sorry, had no idea of where I would put this and make others see (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) telice kindly gave me: Magnificent Agile Shade Boots of Negation 284 , ADB -27% and I am not using them anymore, so I wondered if someone playing light armor build wanted them? This post has been edited by dio.med1989: Jan 22 2018, 16:01
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Jan 22 2018, 16:11
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(dio.med1989 @ Jan 22 2018, 21:53)  Sorry, had no idea of where I would put this and make others see (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Put it in your sign, with big text
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Jan 22 2018, 18:55
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(dio.med1989 @ Jan 22 2018, 14:53)  Sorry, had no idea of where I would put this and make others see (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) telice kindly gave me: Magnificent Agile Shade Boots of Negation 284 , ADB -27% and I am not using them anymore, so I wondered if someone playing light armor build wanted them? Open a shop or sell/auction it.
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Jan 22 2018, 19:00
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Noni
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QUOTE(dio.med1989 @ Jan 22 2018, 14:53)  Sorry, had no idea of where I would put this and make others see (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) telice kindly gave me: Magnificent Agile Shade Boots of Negation 284 , ADB -27% and I am not using them anymore, so I wondered if someone playing light armor build wanted them? Or gift it to Freeshop
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Jan 23 2018, 01:58
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dio.med1989
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 22 2018, 19:00)  Or gift it to Freeshop
It was so obvious... but I do forget this option existed (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) In case the ones who showed interest end up stepping back I will donate it there, thanks. This post has been edited by dio.med1989: Jan 23 2018, 15:54
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Jan 24 2018, 09:16
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(chuck1776 @ Jan 24 2018, 05:46)  just want to cry (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) That's not what this place is for.
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Jan 24 2018, 21:07
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BlueWaterSplash
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isnt this the poor players cry club?
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Jan 24 2018, 22:06
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 24 2018, 20:07)  isnt this the poor players cry club?
It is, but just posting a (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) is spam and not really the purpose. A minimum of usefulness in the posts is required. Do I have to remind everyone that we almost lost this thread due to an overwhelming amount of useless posts? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Jan 24 2018, 22:16
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Cleavs
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the funny thing is that only three clicks would be required for that.
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Jan 24 2018, 23:02
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Jan 24 2018, 21:54)  This just sounds like an oblique mafioso's way to make a threat, along the line of "I'll make you an offer you can't refuse" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ... and only one click to keep it here, yet useless for anyone. now, THIS is a threat (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jan 24 2018, 23:03
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