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post Jan 7 2018, 17:50
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QUOTE(paruri @ Jan 7 2018, 22:31) *

And if you want to level up fast, and don't have much time to go all arenas, I suggest you 200, 190, 180 arenas first. They give you more exp considering turns(not rounds). Then 300, 250, 225 arena.


Yes, I do those stage everyday, 200-180-165-150-140, and the first 3 stage of arenas and several times RE, I've played for 1.5month till now actually. And now I'm on iwbth...


QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 7 2018, 22:41) *

Dude, other advice:
- Get a new Shield FAST, your current one is not enough, the BLK is too low even for a Kite.
- An Ethereal Rapier is not the best for 1H, the best one would be an Hallowed/Demonic.


Okay, I'll note that while playing and searching the WTS..

Thank you for all your kind advices
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post Jan 7 2018, 17:55
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QUOTE(paruri @ Jan 7 2018, 15:45) *

Also Ethereal has no burden, and needs only 9 IW.


Wrong. ethereal melee weapon need IW10 for element strike.
Also for 1H, ethereal is not effective compared to its high price.
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post Jan 7 2018, 17:56
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jan 8 2018, 00:49) *

Also any rapier of slaughter will become a void rapier once you reach potency 10. Just don't buy an ethereal.
This is why it's bad for 1H. Also ethereal is not cool. Hallowed/Demonic is.

I know proper burden is important for 1H, but with full power armor, you can easily get over 70 burden, and if you over that crits decrease. So no burden is actually good, I think.(Of course full leg power will have less burden, but he won't get those right away, right?)
In addition, any other elemental rapier will have one void, one dark, one elemental strikes. On the other hand, ethereal can have one void, one dark, one holy. The difference is huge on SG, I think.

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post Jan 7 2018, 17:59
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QUOTE(paruri @ Jan 7 2018, 23:56) *

I know proper burden is important for 1H, but with full power armor, you can easily get over 70 burden, and if you over that crits decrease. So no burden is actually good, I think.(Of course full leg power will have less burden, but he won't get those right away, right?)
In addition, any other elemental rapier will have one void, one dark, one elemental strikes. On the other hand, ethereal can have one void, one dark, one holy. The difference is huge on SG, I think.

My 1H slaughter set in sign adds up to only 65.5 burden. In fact, I think it is very difficult to go over 70 with power. When I want to throw in some AGI to get mitigation, the attack speed bonus and evade jumps up really fast.
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post Jan 7 2018, 18:03
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QUOTE(qr12345 @ Jan 8 2018, 00:55) *

Wrong. ethereal melee weapon need IW10 for element strike.
Also for 1H, ethereal is not effective compared to its high price.

Nope ethereal melee weapon doesn't need IW10. If they got IW10 and elemental stirke you can't put two infusion
For second, yes it's expensive, but expensive as much as hallow/demonic, and have same efficiency
You can see with only IW9 I can get one void, holy, dark stirke (Offhand is a IW10 hallow waki and I didn't put dark infusion)
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post Jan 7 2018, 18:08
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jan 8 2018, 00:59) *

My 1H slaughter set in sign adds up to only 65.5 burden. In fact, I think it is very difficult to go over 70 with power. When I want to throw in some AGI to get mitigation, the attack speed bonus and evade jumps up really fast.

I'm now with full mag power slaughter except ex boots power slaughter. I have 71 burden, and my rapier has 7 burden. So if I had ethereal, it will be 65. But comparing to elemental, that 5 burden is not a problem I think.
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post Jan 7 2018, 21:11
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jan 7 2018, 12:49) *

Also ethereal is not cool. Hallowed/Demonic is.

for 1H, of course (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jan 7 2018, 21:13
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Jan 7 2018, 20:11) *

for 1H, of course (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

A rapier is light so you could just use Featherweight shards and use it in DW too
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Ethereal is cool tho

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post Jan 7 2018, 23:50
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QUOTE(paruri @ Jan 7 2018, 17:08) *

I'm now with full mag power slaughter except ex boots power slaughter. I have 71 burden, and my rapier has 7 burden. So if I had ethereal, it will be 65. But comparing to elemental, that 5 burden is not a problem I think.


Try to reach 70 burden with a full Legendary set. It's even worse with Peerless.
I've got 60.3 Burden right now and if I could raise it by artificial means, I'd do it.
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post Jan 8 2018, 00:01
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Right now hallowed/demonic prices are not much higher than elemental so they aren't that cool either. Anyway, if you highly value hallowed/demonic then some of that value should carry over into ethereal since it can get those elements. On low level players, ethereal is better because your armor will tend to be worse and heavier, perhaps even with some plate (I still have half plate), and lower burden actually gets you closer to your target of 70 burden. Furthermore having less interference helps a lot at lower level. I still find interference to be crucial, and I won't touch force shields.
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post Jan 8 2018, 00:03
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mc-shard that doubles or add 7 burden when? ( ・・)つ―{}@{}@{}-
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post Jan 8 2018, 00:16
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 7 2018, 16:13) *

A rapier is light so you could just use Featherweight shards and use it in DW too
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

using shards every day is a pain (I do it) and you need different potencies for DW :s
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post Jan 8 2018, 00:21
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If you are poor and cross-use the same rapier between DW and 1H as I do, then ethereal is better also. And you'll just have to live with sub-optimal potencies, unfortunately. A possible alternative is to use DW Club with rapier in offhand which doesn't need overpower and can work better with the 1H potencies.

Oh, I might be interested in the lololo forged Club, but we'll see. I just started using DW again with my new weak rapier, so I'll see how that performs first. I'll probably be more interested in the club the closer I get to level 351, as I'm trying to save shards even though I have plenty. I would probably soulfuse the club, but also view it as an unecessary expenditure, so want to spend minimum shards.

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post Jan 8 2018, 00:28
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 7 2018, 19:21) *
A possible alternative is to use DW Club with rapier in offhand which doesn't need overpower and can work better with the 1H potencies.

yep, I'll try this when I can soulfuse my rapier =3
One the other hand, currently I don't play 1H so of course I can't agree with ass's comment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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Oh, I might be interested in the lololo forged Club

Good, then I'll wait (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


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post Jan 8 2018, 01:40
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 8 2018, 06:50) *

Try to reach 70 burden with a full Legendary set. It's even worse with Peerless.
I've got 60.3 Burden right now and if I could raise it by artificial means, I'd do it.

Hey! We are in 'poor player's club'! Lol Don't forget that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 8 2018, 01:42
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QUOTE(paruri @ Jan 7 2018, 21:40) *

Hey! We are in 'poor player's club'! Lol Don't forget that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

just self drop all your legends o(≧∇≦o) problem solve
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post Jan 8 2018, 02:02
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jan 7 2018, 07:50) *

Yes, I do those stage everyday, 200-180-165-150-140, and the first 3 stage of arenas and several times RE, I've played for 1.5month till now actually. And now I'm on iwbth...
Okay, I'll note that while playing and searching the WTS..

Thank you for all your kind advices


https://hentaiverse.org/equip/150038078/2c412cf2b8

In bazaar right now. Grab it, soulfuse it, and it'll serve you well.
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post Jan 8 2018, 02:08
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Jan 8 2018, 01:02) *

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/150038078/2c412cf2b8

In bazaar right now. Grab it, soulfuse it, and it'll serve you well.

It's terrible.
High level, no STR and low adb.
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post Jan 8 2018, 02:11
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Jan 8 2018, 08:42) *

just self drop all your legends o(≧∇≦o) problem solve

Oh, I didn't know about that! Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jan 8 2018, 02:24
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Jan 8 2018, 01:02) *

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/150038078/2c412cf2b8

In bazaar right now. Grab it, soulfuse it, and it'll serve you well.


It's crap. Certainly not worth wasting soul fragments on it, whatever the player's level.
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