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post Dec 10 2017, 10:34
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You're too low level to give results that would apply on a lv 500.

Since 0.85 it seems that low level players can have performance comparable to level 500 players because of enemy HP scaling. At least, their clear times and (relative to enemy HP) attack damage can be comparable. Defensively the lower level player is more vulnerable, but once you get strong enough with 1H to survive it won't matter too much.

If you currently wanted to see the fastest 1H melee player, you might have to do it on a lower level player, but give them the crazy best equipment. Like if there were a level 300 player wielding all peerless power of slaughter.
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post Dec 10 2017, 10:39
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 10 2017, 09:34) *

Since 0.85 it seems that low level players can have performance comparable to level 500 players because of enemy HP scaling. At least, their clear times and (relative to enemy HP) attack damage can be comparable. Defensively the lower level player is more vulnerable, but once you get strong enough with 1H to survive it won't matter too much.

If you currently wanted to see the fastest 1H melee player, you might have to do it on a lower level player, but give them the crazy best equipment. Like if there were a level 300 player wielding all peerless power of slaughter.


Excuse me but, what did I just say? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Dec 10 2017, 13:09
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"Longswords are shit."
"Longswords are shit."
"Longswords are shit."

=> Why the one currently in the lottery reaches such a high amount of tickets then, HUH?
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post Dec 10 2017, 17:57
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 10 2017, 02:39) *

2h melee requires much less initial investment but performs worse and will not work on higher difficulty

QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 10 2017, 13:09) *

"Longswords are shit."
"Longswords are shit."
"Longswords are shit."

i took a longsword from bazaar, gave it a 0-shard IW, forged it to 5 and cleared PF T&T arena with it, naturally without the use of FRD, gum or vase. if i'm not mistaken, i didn't have to cure even once

1,667 turns 0:13:08 (2.116 t/s) not the fastest, but that's not my style. i wouldn't be surprised if you could go below 10 minutes with the right setup
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post Dec 10 2017, 18:14
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Dec 10 2017, 16:57) *

i took a longsword from bazaar, gave it a 0-shard IW

quite the lucky IW, btw.
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post Dec 10 2017, 20:07
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 10 2017, 12:09) *

"Longswords are shit."
"Longswords are shit."
"Longswords are shit."

=> Why the one currently in the lottery reaches such a high amount of tickets then, HUH?

Peerless + Ethereal attracts a lot of people.

Still quite shit though (especially at high levels), but it's the item with the highest ADB in the game.


QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 10 2017, 17:14) *

quite the lucky IW, btw.

How many times did I brag about getting B4F5 on a Longsword? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Dec 10 2017, 20:31
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Dec 10 2017, 19:07) *

How many times did I brag about getting B4F5 on a Longsword? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

too many, for a 2H without either Stun or Overpower (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Dec 11 2017, 09:24
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Wanna become uber rich?

Here is 1 Great tip for poor peoples.


... (something regarding recent pixiv uploads) ...

[edit]: zic zac!

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post Dec 11 2017, 10:31
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Dec 10 2017, 12:57) *

i took a longsword from bazaar, gave it a 0-shard IW, forged it to 5 and cleared PF T&T arena with it, naturally without the use of FRD, gum or vase. if i'm not mistaken, i didn't have to cure even once

How did you do that? Deprecating spells?
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post Dec 11 2017, 11:22
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Wanna become uber rich?

Here is 1 Great tip for poor peoples.


I know they're being criticized for this, but let's not make throw stones at them either.

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post Dec 11 2017, 11:30
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Dec 11 2017, 08:24) *

Wanna become uber rich?

Here is 1 Great tip for poor peoples.

jfyi, this is causing a discussion somewhere else. i invite people in general to follow the discussion there if really interested, and not to follow their lead in particular. thank you.
if you still want, well... deal with some other mod (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


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As a general reminder combining sets from Pixiv can very easily be treated as a compilation unless the artist marks them as parts of a genuine set.

Do not combine sets of images that are only somewhat related and try to pass them off as being one large CG set.
This is especially true for galleries containing less than 8 images.

Repeated offenses outside of the Imageset category will result in an upload ban.

on bold and size 4, actually.
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post Dec 11 2017, 13:17
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Dec 11 2017, 10:31) *

How did you do that? Deprecating spells?

only imperil. together with high attack speed and scrolls of swiftness/protection/shadows stuff dies before it can do any serious damage
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post Dec 11 2017, 13:38
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Dec 11 2017, 12:17) *

scrolls of swiftness/protection/shadows

did you try using standard spells rather than scrolls? any difference worth noting?
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post Dec 11 2017, 15:45
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 11 2017, 13:38) *

did you try using standard spells rather than scrolls? any difference worth noting?

just did another T&T run without scrolls, difference is that i had to cure 8 times. 1,668 turns 0:12:59 (2.14 t/s)
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post Dec 11 2017, 15:52
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Dec 11 2017, 14:45) *

just did another T&T run without scrolls, difference is that i had to cure 8 times. 1,668 turns 0:12:59 (2.14 t/s)

long story short, it didn't change anything...
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post Dec 11 2017, 16:25
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when ppl say without scrool ppl means using IA rights ┐(︶▽︶)┌? rights?
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post Dec 11 2017, 16:27
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Dec 11 2017, 16:25) *

when ppl say without scrool ppl means using IA rights ┐(︶▽︶)┌? rights?

rights.
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post Dec 11 2017, 16:48
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Dec 11 2017, 15:25) *

when ppl say without scrool ppl means using IA rights ┐(︶▽︶)┌? rights?


no. For PFfest, some of us actually need scrolls in stead of IA to be able to survive. For my cold build, I need to switch from IA to scrolls around round 400-500. Dark build somewhere around 350-400. Scrolls have slightly more power than IA or casting supportive spells.

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post Dec 15 2017, 22:20
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How rich do you have to be to afford an 85+ longsword of slaughter? I see exactly one peerless ethereal for 55m, and that's not happening unless someone wants to loan me 50m. That's DD3 + about another thousand hath left over (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Dec 15 2017, 22:26
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That one is just a joke. If he's serious then it's even worse (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Don't buy an 85, it's crap. At least 95.
Below that value...you see them in bazaar everyday.

I picked up 98.23 (0.24 from peerless) right from the dustbin (bazaar) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

If you don't want ethereal, 50k is all you need for a good one.

But even ethereal...a peerless one could get a couple of millions. Maybe five if there is competition.
Not 55 for sure...not even an estoc goes for that much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

A good ethereal (97-98) is below 1m for sure. I wouldn't give those myself though.
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