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Well, at least I can still feed my monsters.

Food is cheap, and no one likes seeing monsters go hungry. Under Lv310s can often get free food if they wear a sign saying "will twerk 4 food" ask nicely.

doing item world on my Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter which soon needs to be replaced.

I use a Leg Demonic Rapier of Slaughter too (link in sig). I'm back on the phone again, so no scripts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif). What is the ADB and Parry %?
Because it is low level, I would tend to agree with NOT soulfusing so other low level players can use it. But, that said, I personally soulfused almost everything. I still have some soulfused superiors from when I was low lev x'D

If you do decide to soulfuse it, consider sending it to an IW service to get but5 fat4 on it, before fusing.
Or, if you want to do it yourself, feel free to send it to me (with amnesia shards) when you need the potencies wiped... Yep. I wasted 2k hath on Dark Descent (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I specialized in DW before I switched to 1H near level 250, so I'm used to it. Wakizashi of nimble/balance is preferred for offhand but wakizashi of slaughter can work. I have a set of 3 superior demonic wakizashi of slaughter/balance/nimble I used from level 50 to 250. This wakizashi is so much more damaging than my rapier that I am considering using them backwards (waki in main, rapier in offhand).

Like, the P Eth Waki of Nimble in the weapon lottery right now? I'm not a DWer, but it'd be nice to have a P.Waki ready to go for the day when I choose to switch styles for 600 prof in DW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This attitude to soulfuse not even Leg Rapiers of Slaughter because the stats are to bad has really reached absurd levels. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I bed there are people out there that wouldnt even fuse my new rapier, because reasons.

I think a lot of people (myself included) are a bit too quick to soulfuse everything. But you're right that there are also naysayers out there who say to not soulfuse anything that's not a "perfect" piece (eg, p savage power of slaughter).

Temptation to soulfuse my rapier is high, but from reading the old posts of veteran players, I know that if I soulfuse this rapier he will be deleted one day. I would use this rapier for a long time and upgrade it a lot, then when I get a better rapier this guy gets salvaged for materials and is no more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

You could just keep it in storage and look at it for the memories. There is no law that says you must salvage old soulfused gear. Unless they have actuators/phasons in them, no one will judge you for not salvaging them.

I have a lot of soul fragments doing nothing, but they could be used quickly and efficiently if I manage to purchase just one or two high level equipments, since it costs up to 1500 soul fragments.

I cannot speak highly enough of the soulcatcher hath perk. Those 10 fragments per day make a HUGE difference... And I still find myself buying fragments on occasion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

By not soulfusing this rapier, other level 200 players could benefit from its power far into the future. I was thinking of loaning it out like ST-Ru does one day, except I haven't figured out how to do it with the rapier because someone is going to eventually steal it (ST-Ru's stuff all gets stolen eventually).

Selfishness vs Altruism. It s a never ending internal struggle. No one can make that choice for you.
If I were you... If > 70% ADB and parry, I'd soulfuse it. If not, I'd return it to the low level pool. Maybe sell it to decondelight - he has a shop where he sells decent low level gears specifically for new players. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I always had a little food but not crystals. I'm not sure if monsters need food to avoid losing their name, or crystals too.

My rapier has 39% adb and 18% parry, and also the worst penetrated armor chance I've seen on a legendary, plus it only lasts 5 turns. All PABs are even worse. Other stats are excellent but can't save it. Piyin's "crap" rapier from that incident was actually better. It had peerless stats in every category, aside from high level and flawed 15% adb. Sogeth has it now, from freeshop. I'm fine with fat 5 and but 3, not worth reforging even after I get to higher level.

It's funny how my legendary wakizashi ended up with the same IW, except with swift and fat mirrored. (This is fine on a wakizashi, anything except butcher is good, even butcher is ok with slaughter suffix). The peerless wakizashi in auction already has 100,000 tickets so it's pretty awesome.

The best idea I have so far is to rent it out for "free" as ST-Ru does but with high collateral, say 2 million, and I will buy it back when they no longer need it. Or just sell it and ask the buyer to sell it to someone else eventually. Such plans could allow the rapier to be shared for a long time but eventually I suspect someone will end up soulfusing it.

I would prefer to blame those who advise all the time, dont soulfuse anything, it is never worth it, just pile those soulfragments up to a number between multivitamin and ∞. And yeah, to gather up the fragments you need can take a while. So? If you never use them what is the point when you want better equipment? You will never use their full potential. I have allways everything i use fused and i love it to see all my stats go up when i got another level up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

I also think exactly like that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I made soulfuse on all the "definitive" pieces I used. Only a few "temporary" pieces, which I used to make the IW of the "definitive" ones, that I did not have to do soulfuse.

This post has been edited by Basara Nekki: Oct 3 2017, 01:36

I like to soulfuse everything I get from auctions. Until I run out of fragments and have to wait a month until I can fuse next.

All this talking about soulfusing has caused me to go read the Wiki and set about thinking...

Since I've never soulfused anything (and I don't plan to do it for a long time still), there are a couple of things i'm wondering about.

First, if I soulfuse a piece, can I still un-equip it and equip another at his place ?

Second, the soulfused item cannot be sent by Moogle so can't be sold, but can it be sold to Bazaar instead of salvaging ? And if so, can another player buy it from Bazaar already soulfused (like those in lotteries) ?

Third, I have more personas and more equips sets in persona's slot, if I soulfuse an item while being in one persona/slot, does it influence the others too ? (I would say NOT, by logic, but don't know).


My two cents about the YES soufuse/ NO soulfuse debate : I think the main question one should ask himself when trying to decide what to do is simply this, if I soulfuse this item what is the probability that I'll use it for a time long enough to (mostly) recover the fragments spent in it ?

If there is a good probability that I will get a better item (either from drops, buying, lotteries, shrine whatever) in a time brief enough, then I shouldn't soulfuse it, no matters pabs & stats.

Greets to all PP Club people (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

First, if I soulfuse a piece, can I still un-equip it and equip another at his place?

When i say that i never thought i would ever read that question, does it answer your question? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Moogle so can't be sold, but can it be sold to Bazaar instead of salvaging ? And if so, can another player buy it from Bazaar already soulfused (like those in lotteries) ?

Yes. I guess they could. But why would someone do that? Iirc everything you buy from the bazaar is untradleble right from the beginning.

Third, I have more personas and more equips sets in persona's slot, if I soulfuse an item while being in one persona/slot, does it influence the others too ? (I would say NOT, by logic, but don't know).

The equipment is soulfuse to your account. What have personas or equipment sets to do with that? They make it just easier to play different styles at the same time, they are not a new account.

I think the main question one should ask himself when trying to decide what to do is simply this, if I soulfuse this item what is the probability that I'll use it for a time long enough to (mostly) recover the fragments spent in it ?

Fragments dont cost anything. You get 5 of them for free, for nearly every RE you do. So lets say all you can make is three RE per day. That would be 15 fragments per day. So 105 peer week and around 420 per month. So that would still be enough to soulfuse around 10 Leg equipments that are close or lower your own level. And that easy. I mean come on. Three Re is something that should be possible for everyone, so most people will have much more of them. And when i read, no i wont soulfuse a Leg rapier of slaughter, because stats, all i can think of is, well, of course sherlock, you probably have outlevel it so much that soulfuse it, would increase your ABD by 100 or more. And just cant stop to roll with my eyes AND toenails.

If there is a good probability that I will get a better item (either from drops, buying, lotteries, shrine whatever) in a time brief enough, then I shouldn't soulfuse it, no matters pabs & stats.

There is allways the chance to get a better item, but a good probability? Sorry, but what is that suppose to mean? I waited around three and a half year for something like my rapier to drop for me. So this good probability is wishful thinking and nothing else. And i would never trade any stats or pabs for wishful thinking. Of course you, or someelse, could now argue, but uncle, you didnt soulfuse your rapier, why should we believe you. And i would answer, ah, that is a good observation but the answer is simple, is didnt soulfuse my rapier yet, because i am still working on the IW on it and dont own the Dark Descent perk myself. So it is not soulfuse so i can still sent it to someone who has that perk allready, so i dont waste to much shards.

BTW i will start the 11th IW soon. *sigh* This will take forever. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Yes. I guess they could. But why would someone do that? Iirc everything you buy from the bazaar is untradleble right from the beginning.

They can't.

If you sell or salvage a soulbound equipment, it will remain soulbound, and it will be in bazaar, visible only to you.


If you sell or salvage a non-soulbound equipment then it changes, selling allows players to buy it from bazaar, salvaging makes it untradeable and send it to bazaar only visible to you.

Hm, so my guess was wrong. What ever, i never really did care about what happen to my stuff in bazaar. BTW and another IW worthless because Overpower. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

So lets say all you can make is three RE per day. That would be 15 fragments per day. So 105 peer week and around 420 per month. So that would still be enough to soulfuse around 10 Leg equipments that are close or lower your own level.

You can't soulfuse any leg with 420 fragments O.o

You can't soulfuse any leg with 420 fragments O.o

And i what weird contry do you live in, that you just have 10 months? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

When i say that i never thought i would ever read that question, does it answer your question? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Beg yr pardon, but my opinion is that you cannot go by logic with this. Since this game is an arbitrary creation, behaviour of the code implementing it comes out of arbitrary decisions of the programmer . therefore what is not clearly stated and explained is subject to (mis)interpretations.

The equipment is soulfuse to your account. What have personas or equipment sets to do with that? They make it just easier to play different styles at the same time, they are not a new account.

That's my point. To me "soulfused to my account" sounds like "you only can equip one, no change" like if I soulfuse a Mag Cotton Shoes I end up with it in all my sets (at least for the same persona).

Fragments dont cost anything.

I know, I used the term "spent in them" meaning "used in them", no monetary value, just value of time to get them.

There is always the chance to get a better item, but a good probability? Sorry, but what is that suppose to mean? I waited around three and a half year for something like my rapier to drop for me. So this good probability is wishful thinking and nothing else.

Again, I used "probability" in a generic way, not meaning drop prob. I've written also bought, from shrine, etc. I meant to say that one has to estimate how much will he wait before changing the equip (in whichever way it gets changed).

BTW i will start the 11th IW soon. *sigh* This will take forever. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Good luck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

First, if I soulfuse a piece, can I still un-equip it and equip another at his place ?

Yes. Soulfused equips act in all the same ways as normal equips, except their stats grow as your level grows, and you cannot trade it or sell to the bazaar.
Also you get 32x PXP when IWing a soulfused item, as opposed to only 16x for non-soulfused

Second, the soulfused item cannot be sent by Moogle so can't be sold, but can it be sold to Bazaar instead of salvaging ? And if so, can another player buy it from Bazaar already soulfused (like those in lotteries) ?

No. Answered above.

Third, I have more personas and more equips sets in persona's slot, if I soulfuse an item while being in one persona/slot, does it influence the others too ? (I would say NOT, by logic, but don't know).

As others have explained already, soulfusing is to the account. It affects all personas and sets, but you are still free to un-equip/re-equip it at will.

My two cents about the YES soufuse/ NO soulfuse debate : I think the main question one should ask himself when trying to decide what to do is simply this, if I soulfuse this item what is the probability that I'll use it for a time long enough to (mostly) recover the fragments spent in it ?

I disagree with you, because the mere act of soulfusing means that the stats will keep growing with your level, which means you are less likely to have a need to replace it so soon.

If there is a good probability that I will get a better item (either from drops, buying, lotteries, shrine whatever) in a time brief enough, then I shouldn't soulfuse it, no matters pabs & stats.

As soon as I buy and soulfuse a piece, I think to myself "what would be the next stat leap from here?" then I don't buy any more gear until the piece I want comes up.

For example, I have a peerless onyx power leggings of protection. Even though the lottering have a savage version up for grabs, and it's better, I'm not going for it. Because I've already decided my next upgrade will be a peerless -x- power leggings of slaughter.

Fragments dont cost anything. You get 5 of them for free, for nearly every RE you do. So lets say all you can make is three RE per day. That would be 15 fragments per day. So 105 peer week and around 420 per month. So that would still be enough to soulfuse around 10 Leg equipments that are close or lower your own level. And that easy. I mean come on. Three Re is something that should be possible for everyone, so most people will have much more of them.

Wut? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Soulfusing even just 1 leg gear is 500 fragments, plus 10 fragments for every level above you the gear is.

Do you even wiki?
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#Soul_Fragments

Wut? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Soulfusing even just 1 leg gear is 500 fragments, plus 10 fragments for every level above you the gear is.

Do you even read or calculate?

Fragments dont cost anything. You get 5 of them for free, for nearly every RE you do. So lets say all you can make is three RE per day. That would be 15 fragments per day. So 105 peer week and around 420 per month. So that would still be enough to soulfuse around 10 Leg equipments that are close or lower your own level.

420 x 12 = 5040
around 10 Leg that are close or lower your own level. ≈ 10 x 500
10 x 500 = 5000
5040 ≥ 5000
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Do you even read or calculate?
420 x 12 = 5040
around 10 Leg that are close or lower your own level. ≈ 10 x 500
10 x 500 = 5000
5040 ≥ 5000
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Fragments dont cost anything. You get 5 of them for free, for nearly every RE you do. So lets say all you can make is three RE per day. That would be 15 fragments per day. So 105 peer week and around 420 per month. So that would still be enough to soulfuse around 10 Leg equipments that are close or lower your own level.

Do you even write? You said nothing about 10 legs per year. Like... Literally nothing. Are we supposed to be mind readers?

You said 10 legs per month, so yeah, I assumed you meant what you said. My bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This is what you get when you write forumspost while you are still in revision-mode. You revision your own post that often, that you revision the year away you are talking about. That was it what this was all about. Now lololo16's post makes much more sence. I will now go and finish my revision, before the headache kill my mood.

And just to make sure everyone knows what i am talking about the sentence should be

So that would still be enough to soulfuse around 10 Leg equipments per year, that are close or lower your own level.

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Oct 4 2017, 00:42

Thanks a lot to everyone, Zeo & Uncle.

It is all Xtal clear, now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

@Uncle, by your own formula, you have to play each day one full year, just so to have the frags for 10 Leg.

That means, for someone who is, say, lv.220, before having soulfused even just one set you'll be way higher.
Granted, the soulfused items will follow your level. But still, if you want to maintain,like, 4 or 5 styles, you'll need a lot of playing, and I doubt most people play everyday for years on end.

That sums up suggesting one should be wary of soulfusing just every items that seems good enough, waiting for prize items instead ( unless you're rich and don't mind buying fragments from Bazaar, obviously (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )

And good weapons/staffs with high ADB/MDB should be soulfused first, rather then pieces of armature, probably. Less of them to soulfuse so less soulfrags used, and higher effect in play probably.

You revision your own post that often, that you revision the year away you are talking about.

Haha. All good mate. In your own words, uncle forgets things because he's getting old. But that's okay, we still love you, alzheimer's and all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

@Uncle, by your own formula, you have to play each day one full year, just so to have the frags for 10 Leg.

Well it is not really a formula, just an example for how many fragments you get when you play nearly nothing. 3 RE is imo something that everybode could do easy.

Auctions are to remind poor peoples of their poverty. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Well, if you take a closer look, you could also see, the different between poor and damned rich, can be just a single equip drop away. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)