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Sep 15 2017, 17:33
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Usagi =
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Seeing how you guys are talking about ping, I made this script that calculates the time it takes to send an AJAX request and receive a reply from HV. Just go to any HV page and put it in the console. CODE var times = 5;
var total = 0;
function ping(n) { var x = new XMLHttpRequest(); var t = (new Date).getTime(); x.onreadystatechange = function() { if (x.readyState == 4 && x.status == 200) { var rtt = (new Date).getTime() - t; total += rtt; console.log(rtt + "ms"); if (n != 1) { ping(--n); } else { console.log("Average:" + (total / times).toFixed(2) + "ms") } } } x.open("GET", window.location.href, true); x.send(); }
ping(times);
Edit: Changed a 0 into a 1 This post has been edited by LOL50015: Sep 15 2017, 17:45
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Sep 15 2017, 17:38
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kyouri
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Sep 16 2017, 01:33)  Seeing how you guys are talking about ping, I made this script that calculates the time it takes to send an AJAX request and receive a reply from HV. Just go to any HV page and put it in the console. CODE
5x responses 370-400ms, yet average is 450ms. EU servers + my location = (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Sep 15 2017, 17:45
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(kyouri @ Sep 15 2017, 23:38)  5x responses 370-400ms, yet average is 450ms. EU servers + my location = (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Oops...counter was off by one, should be fixed.
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Sep 15 2017, 17:59
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE 189ms 309ms 425ms 110ms 99ms
Average:226.40ms Oh.
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Sep 15 2017, 21:16
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WName
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Sep 15 2017, 17:33)  Seeing how you guys are talking about ping, I made this script that calculates the time it takes to send an AJAX request and receive a reply from HV. Just go to any HV page and put it in the console. CODE
Edit: Changed a 0 into a 1 682ms 198ms 663ms 655ms 198ms Average:479.20ms Well, crap. Edit: Alternately, you can see response times for the AJAX queries (in Chrome at least) by hitting F12 to open the dev tools, going to the Network tab, and then clicking the "XHR" button. Should see a list of individual queries, including a "Time" column. This post has been edited by WName: Sep 15 2017, 21:19
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Sep 15 2017, 21:28
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f4tal
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My ping, btw. Average tps - ~3,1. Location - close to Moscow. CODE 163ms 179ms 159ms 220ms 150ms Average:174.20ms Thank you, LOL50015, for handy tool =) Well, we may create separate thread for this data just to make them more aggregated. This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 15 2017, 21:32
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Sep 15 2017, 21:42
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KitsuneAbby
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That small ping script is not relevant at all. It only calculates an average ping on page loading, which corresponds to the moment when a shitload of stuff is loaded. Unfortunately, that's absolutely not what happens when we are in the middle of a battle, which features much less data transferred.
Still, nice attempt.
This post has been edited by decondelite: Sep 15 2017, 21:42
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Sep 15 2017, 23:09
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BlueWaterSplash
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I don't know what AJAX is but decondelite might be onto something. I find it strange that these latest pings are so inconsistent. With command prompt ping I get 200 ms and it's almost exactly the same every time. (However when I play, the response varies tremendously from 0.5 seconds to 2 seconds).
I noticed the game response also gets worse when there are more monsters (I think they have to be alive).
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Sep 16 2017, 02:55
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WName
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 15 2017, 21:42)  That small ping script is not relevant at all. It only calculates an average ping on page loading, which corresponds to the moment when a shitload of stuff is loaded. Unfortunately, that's absolutely not what happens when we are in the middle of a battle, which features much less data transferred.
Still, nice attempt.
I see similar values when I watch the XHR/AJAX requests during battle. The actual download time is negligible, most of the time is just waiting (i.e. the time it takes my request to reach the server, the time it takes the server to process the request, and the time it takes for the server's response to travel back to me). Edit:QUOTE I don't know what AJAX is but decondelite might be onto something. I find it strange that these latest pings are so inconsistent. With command prompt ping I get 200 ms and it's almost exactly the same every time. (However when I play, the response varies tremendously from 0.5 seconds to 2 seconds). AJAX stands for Asynchronous JavaScript and XML, though it's a bit of a misnomer now since people don't really use XML for this anymore. (XML is a way of structuring data, and has been mostly replaced by another format called JSON.) Basically, it allows a webpage to communicate with a server and retrieve new data without reloading the whole page, which is how things like combat in HV can function without constant page reloads every time you take an action. As for the variable response times, it could be that the server running HV is running under a high load? This post has been edited by WName: Sep 16 2017, 03:00
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Sep 16 2017, 03:57
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Usagi =
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Well, the inconsistency may be due to random noise, you could try changing "times" from 5 to some large value like 100 for more accurate results.
Also, you can test it on the starting page of grindfest for the least data transferred.
Edit: We could also ask Sickentide to implement a ping counter in Monsterbation for real results.
This post has been edited by LOL50015: Sep 16 2017, 04:00
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Sep 16 2017, 08:44
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BlueWaterSplash
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I badly lost the auction for the legendary kite shield, now I must stay at 25% block until I am level 300. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (No shield donations necessary, I have magnificent force and kite shields, I just don't feel like using them). I hope I can find a better legendary buckler. But I also need a new weapon soon. I'm a bum. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Sep 16 2017, 09:00
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ALL_MIGHT
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 16 2017, 12:14)  I badly lost the auction for the legendary kite shield, now I must stay at 25% block until I am level 300. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (No shield donations necessary, I have magnificent force and kite shields, I just don't feel like using them). I hope I can find a better legendary buckler. But I also need a new weapon soon. I'm a bum. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Checkout these shields Of freeshop(Shield for Level<351-0)Legendary Mithril Buckler of Protection(340) (Shield for Level<351-1)Magnificent Force Shield of Protection(340) (Shield for Level<351-2)Legendary Mithril Kite Shield of Protection(398) (Shield for Level<351-3)Legendary Mithril Kite Shield of Stoneskin(464) (Shield for Level<351-4)Exquisite Mithril Kite Shield of Protection(239) you might like one of these (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by ALL_MIGHT: Sep 16 2017, 09:01
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Sep 16 2017, 09:24
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 16 2017, 09:00)  Checkout these shields Of freeshop(Shield for Level<351-0)Legendary Mithril Buckler of Protection(340) (Shield for Level<351-1)Magnificent Force Shield of Protection(340) (Shield for Level<351-2)Legendary Mithril Kite Shield of Protection(398) (Shield for Level<351-3)Legendary Mithril Kite Shield of Stoneskin(464) (Shield for Level<351-4)Exquisite Mithril Kite Shield of Protection(239) you might like one of these (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 1) Shite. Barely worth replacing a Mag Force Shield of the same level. 2) Shite. You usually get one around Lvl300 or even before. 3) Shite. Everyone already has a Leg Force Shield of Protection since then. 4) Even shittier than 3) 5) Half-decent if you don't already have a Exq Force shield by then. Why the hell do you think all these equipments go in FreeShop?
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Sep 16 2017, 10:55
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BlueWaterSplash
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My currently equipped Legendary Mithril Buckler of Protection with 25% block is the other one that came from FreeShop. Someone else requested it and realized it was worthless so I ended up with it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I was feeling sad, so I stole some Legendary Onyx Power Leggings of Warding from a monster. Now I have pants! ADB is 51%, a third of the other stats are peerless but no one would care. Time to break up my full legendary plate set. Pants and shoes were borrowed from ST-Ru, who ironically is the one buying that legendary kite shield I wanted. He'll probably put it up for borrowing, but I'm fine with my buckler. Next I need to find some shoes and a trenchcoat, then get a boomstick from a police car.
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Sep 16 2017, 11:34
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 16 2017, 10:55)  Someone else requested it and realized it was worthless so I ended up with it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Well that is not true. It is worth a whole HG wood, so worthless is something else.
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Sep 16 2017, 12:48
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 16 2017, 11:34)  Well that is not true. It is worth a whole HG wood, so worthless is something else.
Right ! Being worthy or worthless is relative. Worthless for you is worthy for me. If you're rich, there is someone richer then you. If you're poor, there is someone poorer then you. Things must be put in perspective. ( etc etc (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) That's why I, being as poor as I am, I'm already thinking of opening a free shop, to donate the tons of ugly averages and quite a few crudes/fair that I am always dropped (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I could salvage for scrap material, but some are good enough that people just starting to play may be happy to use them while they wait for something better. I'm a bit scared of the time this could take out from me, though. I'll have to think about it, and see how the whole matter of shops works. Experiment a bit with scripts for equip mgmt, maybe. This post has been edited by mundomuñeca: Sep 16 2017, 12:49
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Sep 18 2017, 11:49
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Sep 16 2017, 20:18)  I'm already thinking of opening a free shop, to donate the tons of ugly averages and quite a few crudes/fair that I am always dropped (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I could salvage for scrap material, but some are good enough that people just starting to play may be happy to use them while they wait for something better. I'm a bit scared of the time this could take out from me, though. I'll have to think about it, and see how the whole matter of shops works. Experiment a bit with scripts for equip mgmt, maybe. Did you ever get this off the ground? Post a link if you do (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sep 18 2017, 12:11
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Sep 16 2017, 12:48)  That's why I, being as poor as I am, I'm already thinking of opening a free shop, to donate the tons of ugly averages and quite a few crudes/fair that I am always dropped (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I could salvage for scrap material, but some are good enough that people just starting to play may be happy to use them while they wait for something better. I'm a bit scared of the time this could take out from me, though. I'll have to think about it, and see how the whole matter of shops works. Experiment a bit with scripts for equip mgmt, maybe. There is absolutely no point in opening a shop that sells/gives equipments of Average quality or below, as they are available as level unassigned in the bazaar. Even if it wasn't the case, no one would want to buy Average or below anyway. Accept it, these things are only good to be bazaar'ed. Why do you think I'm not buying/selling anything below Superior quality? Even when it comes to Superiors, I have to be picky regarding those that I display, as players don't buy anything and everything. Not to mention that I find it quite offensive to be wanting to donate crap to poor players. Either donate something good or don't donate at all. Feel free to experiment with Toolbox and to open a shop.
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Sep 18 2017, 17:00
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jantch
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 18 2017, 06:11)  There is absolutely no point in opening a shop that sells/gives equipments of Average quality or below, as they are available as level unassigned in the bazaar. Even if it wasn't the case, no one would want to buy Average or below anyway.
Accept it, these things are only good to be bazaar'ed.
Not true. ArbiterErii had a very successful topic in which he gave away hundreds of average quality starter sets to newbs who requested them. I think you're forgetting how difficult it is to get credits at a very low level. 1k per piece at bazaar prices is a lot for a newb. This post has been edited by jantch: Sep 18 2017, 17:07
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Sep 18 2017, 17:30
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(jantch @ Sep 18 2017, 17:00)  Not true. ArbiterErii had a very successful topic in which he gave away hundreds of average quality starter sets to newbs who requested them.
I think you're forgetting how difficult it is to get credits at a very low level. 1k per piece at bazaar prices is a lot for a newb.
Why do I never see these newbs on forums then?
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