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post Sep 4 2017, 20:59
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Somewhere in the past pages I said how miserable is to have a gear that costs an arm, a leg and half (10.4k ADB), and yet I'm barely making 100/200k in an hour (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

edit: in an hour ≠ per hour
after the 2nd page of arenas is gone I can dream about doing 50k/hour...more like 30 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I don't judge how you spend your money, and how much you spend.

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post Sep 4 2017, 21:13
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Sep 4 2017, 11:59) *

Somewhere in the past pages I said how miserable is to have a gear that costs an arm, a leg and half (10.4k ADB), and yet I'm barely making 100/200k in an hour (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I don't judge how you spend your money, and how much you spend.


If you pull off 200k an hour, then you are rich.

And yes... you just judged me by the statement of "how" I spend my money.
"How" wasn't part of the context.

I spent 11.8m last night on 330 crystal packs.

You have some sort of critique for that?
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post Sep 4 2017, 21:22
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post Sep 4 2017, 21:43
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Sep 4 2017, 21:13) *

If you pull off 200k an hour, then you are rich.


Richen, name of a village in Baden-Württemberg that is since 1971 part of Eppingen and has a population of 1624.

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post Sep 4 2017, 22:00
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I don't really post here often, as I don't exactly consider myself a *poor* player, but I figured I might as well give my two cents on the whole "wealth" debate.

The way I see it, there are two types of income in HentaiVerse: the income you can get by playing the game (loot & credit drops and clear bonuses), and income you can get outside the game. Naturally, any income from the game itself pales in comparison to what you can earn by using other means, which include running H@H, adopting servers, doing bounties, uploading galleries for GP, selling gold stars, and even the daily donation bonus (especially for the ridiculously high tiers).

The difference is that the in-game income is "free", as it only requires time. Most of the other ones also require real monetary contribution. So it makes sense that people who are willing to go the extra mile are also a fair bit richer than the average player.

That said, I don't really get the argument between the two gentlemen above.

QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Sep 4 2017, 21:25) *
You progress and build up, gain more, spend more, then gain more. But once you get to the high-mage level you oneshot rounds and you can't go faster than that.
You can only invest in stuff such as reselling (that will make you hated) or by donating more, or by scanning/translating/editing hentai, or by using up your bandwidth/buying more bandwidth to get hath and gp.

Nothing is free out of normal play.


Pretty much what I said.

QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Sep 4 2017, 21:54) *
And speaking of "flow", that is the basis of the economy on this site.
It is based as a capitalistic economy where wealth is defined as the "flow" of the medium of exchange.


Also agreed. Basically, the higher your income, the wealthier you are.

One's current credit balance is largely irrelevant in determining overall wealth. Someone who is sitting on 100 million credits but barely makes 100k/day is nowhere near as rich as someone who constantly has zero credits but makes millions every day. Spending credits on upgrading your equipment, or upgrading your monsters, or upgrading your profile via training/perks doesn't magically reduce your wealth. It just converts it to a different kind of wealth.

I don't think End of All Hope ever claimed to be poor. And it's also pretty obvious that RoadShoe is one of the wealthiest players on the site. And they both make fairly similar points.

So... what exactly is the argument about? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Sep 4 2017, 22:37
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QUOTE(friggo @ Sep 4 2017, 13:00) *


"All valid points" snip

So... what exactly is the argument about? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


My argument is the innuendos that go along with game wealth.
It's always 1 layer underneath the conversation, regardless of the "game wealthy" person being spoken about.

Quote:
Of all the ugly and offensive human behaviors known to man, I hate wealth the most.

I've never seen anything offensive with Jenga, Mao, Nerf This, atomicpuppy,.. on and on.
The very few times they post, they are always helpful and courteous.
They are all really good people that want to be supportive.
Do they post much? Nope.....

Now Hope was referring to my uhhhmm.. "enthusiastic" investment in Arcanist.
He knows it and I know it.

Does he say that out loud? Nope.......
I ask point blank "You have some sort of critique for that?"

I get " (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) "

Wealthy game players get the innuendos... always.
Until we eventually just go away.
And maybe that's the goal.
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post Sep 4 2017, 22:38
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You're high, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 4 2017, 22:50
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Sep 4 2017, 13:38) *

You're high, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


No, I'm not high.
If I was high, I'd be finger painting and posting pics of it.
Let me check my fingers....
Nope... Not a spot of ink on any of them.

Get to the point.
Do you have a problem with wealthy players?
Do you think any one with the ability to contribute are idiots?
What's with the innuendos and secret "between the line" comments?

"THIS" is the thread for that kind of thing.
Hurting my feelings won't happen. Have at it.
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post Sep 5 2017, 21:51
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I saw few Screenshots of blackjac00

Just seeing that gave me an view of the length to which people goes to support this site
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(Edit:- I rephrased it for better explanation)

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post Sep 5 2017, 21:57
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So the fact that blackjac00 buys every week trophies worth multiple m since quite a while now, didnt tell you something about the credits he can spend? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Sep 5 2017, 22:30
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 6 2017, 01:27) *

So the fact that blackjac00 buys every week trophies worth multiple m since quite a while now, didnt tell you something about the credits he can spend? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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True
I already knew it would be very high.
Now i know that there are all type of players and there must be many of like him who generally stays in shadows and contribute greatly to this site , like him. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (Keep it up guys (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

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(Edit:- rephrased it for clarity)

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post Sep 5 2017, 22:34
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So you dont own a GS with cookies then? Thats more income just from Dawn than some player make in a whole day of grinding.
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post Sep 5 2017, 22:40
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 6 2017, 02:04) *

So you dont own a GS with cookies then? Thats more income just from Dawn than some player make in a whole day of grinding.


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Uncle you are misunderstanding my point.
I am not complaining or anything.
I was just fascinated and happy to see the length to which people goes to support this site. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


(I always have been really bad at expressing/explaining things (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) )(may be due to my bad command over english)


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post Sep 5 2017, 22:43
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Not at all. I see and understand your point quite clear. I just completly disagree with it.
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post Sep 5 2017, 22:56
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 5 2017, 16:57) *

So the fact that blackjac00 buys every week trophies worth multiple m since quite a while now, didnt tell you something about the credits he can spend? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


For some reason when someone sent 34m worth in trophies he stopped taking them for about two days... maybe it was just a coincidence (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Sep 5 2017, 23:21
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 6 2017, 05:21) *

I saw few Screenshots of blackjac00

Just seeing that gave me an view of the length to which people goes to support this site
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(Edit:- I rephrased it for better explanation)


Oh yeah, I was also totally surprised by how much some people contribute to the site (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I have 30 Adopt-A-Servers and I only average 18th - 19th on the daily/monthly H@H toplists.
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post Sep 5 2017, 23:26
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I just completely disagree with it.
We all are funs of perfect tit and teat.
Despite its not about only slit and hit
Sometimes its matter their outfit
Sometimes about licking beautiful armpit
Or maybe difference in credit.
We should admit and surely permit
For our rise and global benefit.
Such conversation without doubt doesnt fit
Community about friends and sexy stuff a bit.

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post Sep 5 2017, 23:39
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Sep 5 2017, 16:26) *

I just completely disagree with it.
We all are funs of perfect tit and teat.
Despite its not about only slit and hit
Sometimes its matter their outfit
Sometimes about licking beautiful armpit
Or maybe difference in credit.
We should admit and surely permit
For our rise and global benefit.
Such conversation without doubt doesnt fit
Community about friends and sexy stuff a bit.

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post Sep 6 2017, 00:53
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Sep 5 2017, 14:26) *

I just completely disagree with it.
We all are funs of perfect tit and teat.
Despite its not about only slit and hit
Sometimes its matter their outfit
Sometimes about licking beautiful armpit
Or maybe difference in credit.
We should admit and surely permit
For our rise and global benefit.
Such conversation without doubt doesnt fit
Community about friends and sexy stuff a bit.

But once a crisis like this gets lit.
Some shall stand and spit a wit.
For neither bullshit, nor anything explicit.
Goddamit, we didn't even split any culprit.
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post Sep 6 2017, 09:32
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Sep 5 2017, 23:26) *

I just completely disagree with it.
We all are funs of perfect tit and teat.
Despite its not about only slit and hit
Sometimes its matter their outfit
Sometimes about licking beautiful armpit
Or maybe difference in credit.
We should admit and surely permit
For our rise and global benefit.
Such conversation without doubt doesnt fit
Community about friends and sexy stuff a bit.


I only understood the armpit part. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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