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post Mar 31 2019, 10:27
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Mar 31 2019, 09:04) *

Not sure, last time I cleared pffest using niten was almost a year ago. I'll try it soon
Same as last time, but after round 650 I started using weaken from time to time on the last 3 monsters (just 1 per round)


Last three as in, cast it at the start of the round on the last 3 in the list? That's a good idea
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post Mar 31 2019, 10:43
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 31 2019, 10:27) *

Last three as in, cast it at the start of the round on the last 3 in the list? That's a good idea


No, he meant the remaining 3
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post Mar 31 2019, 10:50
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 31 2019, 09:43) *

No, he meant the remaining 3


That seems less useful to me? When there's only three left, they're barely dangerous at all, with more time for regen to refill your hp between attacks. I could understand if they were super close to a spirit attack, maybe
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post Mar 31 2019, 11:06
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Weaken is useless. Silence does the job 100 times better.
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post Mar 31 2019, 12:46
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QUOTE(fuadhika @ Mar 31 2019, 05:10) *

Is there any trick to use debuff? When I use imperil more often than not it fails to connect. Or you just try it again and again until it connect to all your targets?

I only cast imperil 2 times at the beginning of a round, then frenzied blows, no matter if some resist/evade it

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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 31 2019, 05:43) *

No, he meant the remaining 3

both, because I always kill first the ones at the top, then weaken on the last three (when necessary). Using it at the beginning of a round could be dangerous if you use imperil too

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post Mar 31 2019, 14:18
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Mar 31 2019, 10:46) *

I only cast imperil 2 times at the beginning of a round, then frenzied blows, no matter if some resist/evade it

Ah I see, so only 6 targets/round huh, I thought you imperil all enemies first. Thanks for the info.
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post Apr 2 2019, 14:28
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Spurred on by lololo's results, and our actually fairly similar defensive stats, I gave pfest a go.

Dead by just over round 800. So, better than I expected, I guess.

... but still, even with the same parry, mostly the same mitigations, and a few % less evade... I had to cure a TON more than lololo's run, not to mention heavy health potion usage. I'd love to understand the way he plays better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Is it opening the round with the imperil-FB combo to clear out some danger?

Probably also stacking jug5s would help me a lot. I have around 8k less health (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Apr 2 2019, 14:43
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QUOTE(lestion @ Apr 2 2019, 14:28) *

Dead by just over round 800. So, better than I expected, I guess.
Judging by my own experience, when you allready did reach 800, you are allready able to beat PFest with a bit more luck. At least i cant see any actual difference in those last 200 rounds. The problematic hummock is imo around round 700. At least for me it was, after i did got over it, i was able to do PFest most of the time. But otherwhise i dont use SoL, so maybe for those who do it is when they are not trigger that before round 700? Hm. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Apr 2 2019, 16:58
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 2 2019, 13:43) *

Judging by my own experience, when you allready did reach 800, you are allready able to beat PFest with a bit more luck. At least i cant see any actual difference in those last 200 rounds. The problematic hummock is imo around round 700. At least for me it was, after i did got over it, i was able to do PFest most of the time. But otherwhise i dont use SoL, so maybe for those who do it is when they are not trigger that before round 700? Hm. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


I dunno about luck, but I think it can be done if I adjust my playstyle a bit. I have a bunch of ideas atm and I'll report back in a few days when I've got the data
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post Apr 2 2019, 17:18
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Well, it does help to use some infusion of the element of that day on your armor.
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post Apr 2 2019, 17:50
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 2 2019, 16:18) *

Well, it does help to use some infusion of the element of that day on your armor.


True, didn't think about that - I did infuse all elements on one piece, and I already have decent fire mitigation (with fire spike shield up), but I did wonder why it made up so much of the elemental damage. I think holy still topped it by a bit, though
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post Apr 2 2019, 18:25
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QUOTE(lestion @ Apr 2 2019, 09:28) *

Is it opening the round with the imperil-FB combo to clear out some danger?

yes, I one-shot 5 monsters 80% of the time (per round), then 3~5 monster aren't really dangerous till round 600. I also used some health draughts and scrolls of absortion just in case (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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Probably also stacking jug5s would help me a lot. I have around 8k less health (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

that could make some difference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 3 2019, 02:38
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did another fest, 700 turns faster, but hv was really slow today...

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post Apr 3 2019, 03:31
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QUOTE(lestion @ Apr 2 2019, 17:50) *

I did infuse all elements on one piece
Does this really work? I am not really convinced that it does, so when i actually use multiple elements i spread them to different amor pieces, because i am affraid it wouldnt work otherwhise. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
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post Apr 3 2019, 03:54
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Apr 2 2019, 21:31) *

Does this really work? I am not really convinced that it does, so when i actually use multiple elements i spread them to different amor pieces, because i am affraid it wouldnt work otherwhise. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)


Yes it does. You can see it reflected on character stats and that's why I used all infusions on every equipment I'm wearing when I'm doing DwD with my PHD mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)





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post Apr 6 2019, 03:53
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So, I know this is beating a very very dead horse in to the ground, but...
Here goes nothing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

So I went out and ran Trio with my (fairly expensive) 1H/heavy.
Including infusions, enchants, the works.

1,324 turns.

Then today I thought I'd try my holy (crap it's so bad) mage at Trio.
No infusions (kinda forgot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) but enchants and aether.

1,073 turns.


Just to put into perspective, here are the relative stats going in:

1H:
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Holy mage:
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0.409 Proficiency Factor

Here are the gears:

1H:
Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Cobalt Force Shield of Protection
Legendary Amber Power Helmet of Slaughter
Magnificent Power Armor of Slaughter
Magnificent Ruby Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
Legendary Onyx Power Leggings of Slaughter
Legendary Savage Power Boots of Protection

Total cost:
~50mil ish (gear cost/upgrade cost/IW costs)


Holy mage:
Magnificent Hallowed Oak Staff of Focus
Magnificent Phase Cap of Heimdall
Exquisite Cotton Robe of the Heaven-sent
Magnificent Radiant Phase Gloves of Heimdall
Magnificent Charged Phase Pants of Heimdall
Magnificent Charged Cotton Shoes of The Heaven-sent

Total cost:
~1mil

50k for staff
Self drop cap
Self drop robe
300k gloves
300k pants
300k shoes



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post Apr 6 2019, 04:04
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Apr 5 2019, 22:53) *

So, I know this is beating a very very dead horse in to the ground, but...
...


This is proof that, definitely, something is very wrong in the game mechanics. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

And worst of all is that it must be purposeful. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

#buffmeleenow (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Apr 6 2019, 04:15
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Apr 6 2019, 11:04) *

This is proof that, definitely, something is very wrong in the game mechanics. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

And worst of all is that it must be purposeful. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

#buffmeleenow (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


I think melee is still useful in some situations.
Early levels (before no-turn imperil), transitioning period when your mage profs are shit and you need something to do REs/high lvl arenas/etc, if you want to no-brain-no-imperil.

But in general, even the cheapest mage gears outperform melee by a fucking MILE.
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post Apr 6 2019, 05:40
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QUOTE(KamuiSeph @ Apr 6 2019, 03:53) *
Total cost:
~1mil


Eh, I can totally drop 1M right now for faster arena finish. Do level matter?
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post Apr 6 2019, 06:36
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QUOTE(feathered @ Apr 5 2019, 23:40) *

Eh, I can totally drop 1M right now for faster arena finish. Do level matter?


Level does matter, and he's at least got DD3 behind his back, so it won't really work out like that for your case lol. You could start maging after lv310 when imperil cooldown disappears, but you need at least 10m to have a functioning mage style and honestly at least 20m to properly play mage style.
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