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DwD. It's far better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by qr12345: Nov 29 2017, 08:47

DwD. It's far better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I want your pants. I can't afford your pants though.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 29 2017, 11:36

DwD. It's far better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

3800 turns O.o Not bad

DwD. It's far better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Nice pantsu. Link?

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 29 2017, 11:36

Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Niflheim
It is my very first Leg Phase dropped (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Legendary Charged Phase Pants of Niflheim
It is my very first Leg Phase dropped (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Not much better than mine. I was thinking to buy yours lol. But it's auctionable af. Might get 1M to several M if you're lucky.

I don't think that's the only reason for him being that fast.

But the sad thing is that...it is the only reason!
There are several people here in their 300-350s that reported DwD clears around 4000-4500 turns, with 7000/8000 adb.

I, myself, struggle to get 5000, and I have 10650 adb.
And nope, this is beyond stats scaling with level. With my gear I would easily get 9000+ if not 9500 adb at their level.

Aka hv right now is messed up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Aka hv right now is messed up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

That's why more than 2 months ago I posted this to highlight how melee players were fucked by HP monster change and needed something to make the style competitive after lvl 400.

That's why more than 2 months ago I posted this to highlight how melee players were fucked by HP monster change and needed something to make the style competitive after lvl 400.

Yeah I posted below you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
But I think the actual decrease in clearspeed is a little harsher than -10% from 350 to 450
With the data I have is more like a -30%...insane (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Yet someone has the guts to ask for more mage oriented improvements (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

This post has been edited by End Of All Hope: Nov 29 2017, 11:26

Yet someone has the guts to ask for more mage oriented improvements (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

^

But I think the actual decrease in clearspeed is a little harsher than -10% from 350 to 450
With the data I have is more like a -30%...insane (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Well, if the scaling is linear at lvl 350 health is 2.5x and at lvl 450 3.5x, an increase of 40%.
Compensate for the fact that at lvl 450 you have better equipments and 30% is probably not too far.

Also I don't understand how this has anything to do with mage vs melee, mages get equally screwed by the hp scaling at high level, they were a lot faster before and they are a lot faster now, nothing really changed.

> mages get equally screwed by the hp scaling at high level,

> they were a lot faster before and they are a lot faster now, nothing really changed.

Pick one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Anyway, seeing various screenshots gave me the impression that mages didn't really suffer from this.
Apart from SG, a lot of mage's damage is overkill now as it was before.
If you overkill an hp increase does nothing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Well of course it does something to weak mages. And this is just right. If you want a superior build, you have to work for it and pay it the right amount.

This post has been edited by End Of All Hope: Nov 29 2017, 12:05

Pick one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I pick both.
Mages being faster than melee is nothing new, I don't understand why you and Scremaz are acting surprised (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Anyway, seeing various screenshots gave me the impression that mages didn't really suffer from this.
Apart from SG, a lot of mage's damage is overkill now as it was before.
If you overkill an hp increase does nothing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

You're not making any sense, HP did not increase outside @PFUDOR, they decreased for lower level players.
By that logic we should ask for mage buffs since hp decrease does nothing for mages.

I pick both.
Mages being faster than melee is nothing new, I don't understand why you and Scremaz are acting surprised (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Both, aka: nothing changed, but also mages got screwed. Nope. They got screwed OR nothing changed.
If nothing changed, they didn't get screwed. If they got screwed, something changed.

You're not making any sense, HP did not increase outside @PFUDOR

Err...HP outiside of PFUDOR greatly increased. On Normal they are roughly 4 times (before level multiplier) more than before (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Both, aka: nothing changed, but also mages got screwed. Nope. They got screwed OR nothing changed.
If nothing changed, they didn't get screwed. If they got screwed, something changed.

Nothing changed between melee vs mage.
Melee is slow and safe, mage is fast.
Decreasing HP doesn't change this truth.

Err...HP outiside of PFUDOR greatly increased. On Normal they are roughly 4 times (before level multiplier) more than before (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Given that you and most of the other players only play @PFUDOR it's not a problem then? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Oh, you meant that.

What I meant above was that, instead of discussing a way to improve the overall gameplay, a lot of requests are oriented for mage only. But mage does not need more buffs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

no needs to buff meless
just nerf mage (⌒▽⌒)☆
keep competitives

Actually it's 2H and DW that would need a buff. Mostly a buff to the damage abilities, and/or to the weapons themselves.

I think letting melee crit with more of the melee damage it dishes out would go a long ways towards helping melee out.

Critical Counters, Dominoes, Off-hands, maybe even void/elemental strikes too.

I do all Arena in PFD with 1h. but today the first time I try playing mage, I can't even finish a nintendo easily. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Flee. End.