Ok, here i am. Sorry for the wait. Need to work as well here (IMG:[
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This is how i start today:

This is PF
all the arenas from 25 to 100 (for the total of
820 rounds) with normal wind mage (no aether shards used).

And this is
one PF Item World run of
82 rounds with 1h/mage.

Random results of course, for just today, but it's gives the idea. I can not handle PF (or IWBTH) Item World runs with normal mage i fear, so we have to do with this.
Anyway... I see Sapo already explained the whys.
As much as i don't like generally the 1h/mage, i do still consider it the best way to go for proficiency training.
But then again, like the mayor in tales of the abyss said: "old men are impatient, cause they don't have that much time left" (IMG:[
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I'm an old man (IMG:[
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Jan 19 2017, 12:19)

Depends on how deep that patience goes.
Am I going to stick with something that makes me flee REs in normal? No way.
Especially since I have an expensive melee set that I don't even use draughts or mana for a "PF" RE.
I just plow them down, and my HP regenerates as I check the monster page.
This mage thing came about due to you guys talking about clearing a Hellfest in 4000 turns.
I have the patience to try and achieve that. The goal is there.
You sure? (IMG:[
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I find it kinda strange...
Even with

in DW i have to heal frequently in any PF-IW run, while with

from 1h/mage i rarely ever heal.
But then again swapping styles is always tedious.
As for mage...
For someone like me that occasionally has to deal with heavy lagging (i thank the neighbors), mage is a big deal. If it wasn't for that i would probably remain 1h/heavy - nyten/heavy for ever (IMG:[
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But maging is tricky!!! You need great equip. Perfect IW results on every piece. Constant use of scrolls. Aether and featherweights on every clear. Great attention on your clears. Big programming on your set, luck and wealth to find them and then you also need to spend a fortune to forge them.
Mage is very rewarding, but it's not simple at all! Playing it is actually a major pain the... there (IMG:[
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With my horrendous dark mage

That was born cause i dropped
this piece, i can
not even reach round 500 on a hellfest.
That's because dark/holy mage are tedious styles, that need great attention to your equipment. You can't just drop a set together and play dark mage.
So any PF mage is seriously something that you need a great preparation in order to play.
(But then again it allows me to clear DwD at hell difficulty in 12 minutes. Worth (IMG:[
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jan 19 2017, 13:16)

I completely agree, but since Road Shoe is not credit starved I was suggesting he build his set first and only then start raising prof.
You know what they say about small insignificant details... Well this is a HUGE and SIGNIFICANT detail that i actually missed!!!
And how on earth did i? I know his condition!
Aieeeeeeee... i'm getting worse by the day... Not cool epion. Not cool (IMG:[
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