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2.1k mdb and 111 edb? Are you 1+4 or 2+3 or something similar? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I have (17.5k HP) 300.2 EDB and 2990 MDB with my crappy Fire Set with Melee Base PABS and no proficiencies (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by End Of All Hope: Jan 18 2017, 20:44

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Can i advise you to start with 1h mage to get the prof up and don't die miserably?
Because with those stats i'm pretty sure you'll get mauled to death.

2.1k mdb and 111 edb? Are you 1+4 or 2+3 or something similar? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I have no idea.
My knowledge level on maje matches how I just spelled it.

I have no idea.
My knowledge level on maje matches how I just spelled it.

Oh, you are 2+2 with a crappy cotton and trash staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
That explains everything.

Can i advise you to start with 1h mage to get the prof up and don't die miserably?
Because with those stats i'm pretty sure you'll get mauled to death.

When you say 1h mage, do you mean use a Rapier instead of staff?

Oh, you are 2+2 with a crappy cotton and trash staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
That explains everything.

1 ticket to San Francisco coming your way.

I have no idea.
My knowledge level on maje matches how I just spelled it.

Oh jesus christ that's horrible.
Wait up and i'll give you a summary of what you should do.

When you say 1h mage, do you mean use a Rapier instead of staff?

No, a wakizashi is better.
And you still use spells.
But you can equip a buckler in offhand and block+counter at the same time.
Basically you're almost tanky as 1H, with mage spells.
Of course is weaker, but it's good to build proficiencies and get used to the playstyle.

Ok, let's start. This is about Elemental Mages only.
1H mage means Waki of Nimble/Battlecaster of your selected Element + Buckler of Barrier/Nimble/Battlecaster.
For Equipment you use 3 phases of your selected Element + 2 cottons of the Elementalist.
This is tankier than a common mage but weaker.
Mage means a matching Staff of your element (for an example if Elec Shocking Willow of Destruction/Mjolnir).
For Equipment you use 4 phases of your selected Element + 1 cottons of the Elementalist.
For both of those Imperil is necessary for the playstyle.
Your prof_factor=(elem_prof-level)/level should be near 0.68 for optimal play.

This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Jan 18 2017, 20:56

1 ticket to San Francisco coming your way.

How's the weather there?

How's the weather there?

[lmgtfy.com] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=san+francisco+meteo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

How's the weather there?

I never go there, but I hear there's lots of smug this time of year . (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Can i advise you to start with 1h mage to get the prof up and don't die miserably?
Because with those stats i'm pretty sure you'll get mauled to death.

Unlike the melee style, mage has indeed the problem that prof goes up very slowly while playing it normally.
As such i would also advice you to start as 1h/mage. It's not mana friendly, but it's safe.

My pretty much not forged 1h/mage has the same clear speed as my somewhat forged 1h/heavy, but of course i have to be glopping down those mana potions as if i'm an alcoholic with it so...

The only 1h/mage style i accept is the thunder type, since the style's proks, help the already hardened clear.

Fire spells give the effect to the enemies to do 10% less damage to you.
Ice spells slow them down.
Wind spells make them miss you.
Thunder spells reduce their chance to resist you.

So considering that 1h/mage has to deal with the enemy resistances and does not have the staff mage buffs, thunder debuff is the best (or actually the only useful one).

Waki has the best parry among 1h weapons hence you wanna find a waki, but then again i always used a shortsword when playing 1h/mage, so it's not such a big deal for a temporary style. If your gear is bad look for a waki to cover up your defense holes, but seriously... this is not important.

However, you need to keep in one of your hand holdings a battlecaster.
You either get a battlecaster weapon and a good shield or get a nimble waki/short/rapier and a battlecaster shield. Otherwise you'll have to start looking at the elixirs and that's... not good. You can get them both battlecaster but that will reduce your defenses and it's not really needed.

2 phage / 3 cloth is ... don't know. Never tried it.
3 phage /2 cloth is ok.
4 phage / 1 cloth is ok
5 phage is ok.

Either way you are going to have your spells resisted and doing reduced damage, so it's not like you have to try and reach a specific proficiency level. What you can find works.
Literally 1h/mage is a bad mage style that is however very good for proficiency training. So get what you can and go for it without much fear, since you won't be staying with it for long.

Edit: that took for ever to write... i don't know how you people handle these new devilish thingie devices nowadays!!!

This post has been edited by Epion: Jan 18 2017, 21:10

Ok, let's start. This is about Elemental Mages only.
1H mage means Waki of Nimble/Battlecaster of your selected Element + Buckler of Barrier/Nimble/Battlecaster.
For Equipment you use 3 phases of your selected Element + 2 cottons of the Elementalist.
This is tankier than a common mage but weaker.
Mage means a matching Staff of your element (for an example if Elec Shocking Willow of Destruction/Mjolnir).
For Equipment you use 4 phases of your selected Element + 1 cottons of the Elementalist.
For both of those Imperil is necessary for the playstyle.
Your prof_factor=(elem_prof-level)/level should be near 0.68 for optimal play.

I fully understand that! Thank you!
I don't think I have a buckler.. I don't think I have any shields at all... but I'll get one.

And I don't have 3 phases of elect... or any other element, but I'll struggle until I do. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thank you!! I'm sending you a gift for the clear answer.
And also because you're a good guy.

Unlike the melee style, mage has indeed the problem that prof goes up very slowly while playing it normally.
As such i would also advice you to start as 1h/mage. It's not mana friendly, but it's safe.

My pretty much not forged 1h/mage has the same clear speed as my somewhat forged 1h/heavy, but of course i have to be glopping down those mana potions as if i'm an alcoholic with it so...

The only 1h/mage style i accept is the thunder type, since the style's proks, help the already hardened clear.

Fire spells give the effect to the enemies to do 10% less damage to you.
Ice spells slow them down.
Wind spells make them miss you.
Thunder spells reduce their chance to resist you.

So considering that 1h/mage has to deal with the enemy resistances and does not have the staff mage buffs, thunder debuff is the best (or actually the only useful one).

Waki has the best parry among 1h weapons hence you wanna find a waki, but then again i always used a shortsword when playing 1h/mage, so it's not such a big deal for a temporary style. If your gear is bad look for a waki to cover up your defense holes, but seriously... this is not important.

However, you need to keep in one of your hand holdings a battlecaster.
You either get a battlecaster weapon and a good shield or get a nimble waki/short/rapier and a battlecaster shield. Otherwise you'll have to start looking at the elixirs and that's... not good. You can get them both battlecaster but that will reduce your defenses and it's not really needed.

2 phage / 3 cloth is ... don't know. Never tried it.
3 phage /2 cloth is ok.
4 phage / 1 cloth is ok
5 phage is ok.

Either way you are going to have your spells resisted and doing reduced damage, so it's not like you have to try and reach a specific proficiency level. What you can find works.
Literally 1h/mage is a bad mage style that is however very good for proficiency training. So get what you can and go for it without much fear, since you won't be staying with it for long.

Edit: that took for ever to write... i don't know how you people handle these new devilish thingie devices nowadays!!!

Another fantastic answer. Thanks Epion!

Literally 1h/mage is a bad mage style that is however very good for proficiency training. So get what you can and go for it without much fear, since you won't be staying with it for long.

That, really. No need to go for exceptional stuff if you're just looking to grind some prof. Back then, I was using Battlecaster Waki + Buckler, both unforged, and dying was literally impossible even at IWBTH. After all, you'll likely have decent Evade, Block, Parry and Resist at the same time, so unlike DW Shade (piercing) or 1H Heavy (Magic) you won't really have any serious weakness with that setup.

I fully understand that! Thank you!
I don't think I have a buckler.. I don't think I have any shields at all... but I'll get one.

And I don't have 3 phases of elect... or any other element, but I'll struggle until I do. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thank you!! I'm sending you a gift for the clear answer.
And also because you're a good guy.

I'm glad to be of help. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Thanks for the gift, i appreciate it very much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
By the way, i forgot to say one simple thing for 1H Mage: the optimal buckler should have DEA (DEX END AGI) as PABs.

That, really. No need to go for exceptional stuff if you're just looking to grind some prof. Back then, I was using Battlecaster Waki + Buckler, both unforged, and dying was literally impossible even at IWBTH. After all, you'll likely have decent Evade, Block, Parry and Resist at the same time, so unlike DW Shade (piercing) or 1H Heavy (Magic) you won't really have any serious weakness with that setup.

I'm glad to be of help. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Thanks for the gift, i appreciate it very much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
By the way, i forgot to say one simple thing for 1H Mage: the optimal buckler should have DEA (DEX END AGI) as PABs.

Thanks guys.
I just don't have the right equipment yet.

I just tried an RE again, and had to flee. Jeez.
I was thinking a one day set up, but its not going to work out.
I'll need to give it some time and build up enough to survive. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks again!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Unlike the melee style, mage has indeed the problem that prof goes up very slowly while playing it normally.

Really?
When I started mage semi-seriously prof raised pretty fast just doing low-level arenas at increasing difficulty (not from one day to the other, but prof just doesn't work that way, with any style and actually clothes prof lagged behind divine prof so idk).
And I used that experience to understand how to play, so it was not time wasted at all.
Started from hard all the way to PFUDOR.

Honestly using time and credits to build a set just to raise prof seems a waste to me.

Really?
When I started mage semi-seriously prof raised pretty fast just doing low-level arenas at increasing difficulty (not from one day to the other, but prof just doesn't work that way, with any style and actually clothes prof lagged behind divine prof so idk).
And I used that experience to understand how to play, so it was not time wasted at all.
Started from hard all the way to PFUDOR.

Honestly using time and credits to build a set just to raise prof seems a waste to me.

It's not really that expensive to find a waki and a shield good enough to 1h mage, i found my Leg Arctic Waki of the Nimble in the Bazaar and bought a Leg Buckler of the Nimble DEA for like a total of 50k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
The rest of the build then gets reused for the normal Mage.