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post Jan 14 2017, 20:29
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HatH: ~4k
GP: ~ 9k

Weapon/Armor damage and high unused PxP due to 781 rounds of PFUDORfest.
WTF??? Poof!! Dead out of the blue!

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post Jan 14 2017, 20:34
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Here we go.

Fixed it.

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post Jan 15 2017, 17:53
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About to shrine off all the normal trophies

Just documenting.

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post Jan 18 2017, 20:40
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First set up of Elemental Mage - Elect

2 RE runs so far.
1st one accidentally on PFUDOR. Died on contact.

2nd flee due to not setting up settings page for items, etc.

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post Jan 18 2017, 20:42
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Jan 18 2017, 19:40) *

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2.1k mdb and 111 edb? Are you 1+4 or 2+3 or something similar? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I have (17.5k HP) 300.2 EDB and 2990 MDB with my crappy Fire Set with Melee Base PABS and no proficiencies (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jan 18 2017, 20:44
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Jan 18 2017, 19:40) *

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Can i advise you to start with 1h mage to get the prof up and don't die miserably?
Because with those stats i'm pretty sure you'll get mauled to death.
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post Jan 18 2017, 20:45
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2.1k mdb and 111 edb? Are you 1+4 or 2+3 or something similar? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


I have no idea.
My knowledge level on maje matches how I just spelled it.

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post Jan 18 2017, 20:47
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Jan 18 2017, 19:45) *

I have no idea.
My knowledge level on maje matches how I just spelled it.

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That explains everything.
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post Jan 18 2017, 20:47
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 18 2017, 10:44) *

Can i advise you to start with 1h mage to get the prof up and don't die miserably?
Because with those stats i'm pretty sure you'll get mauled to death.


When you say 1h mage, do you mean use a Rapier instead of staff?
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post Jan 18 2017, 20:49
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Jan 18 2017, 10:47) *

Oh, you are 2+2 with a crappy cotton and trash staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
That explains everything.


1 ticket to San Francisco coming your way.
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post Jan 18 2017, 20:49
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Jan 18 2017, 19:45) *

I have no idea.
My knowledge level on maje matches how I just spelled it.

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Oh jesus christ that's horrible.
Wait up and i'll give you a summary of what you should do.
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post Jan 18 2017, 20:49
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Jan 18 2017, 19:47) *

When you say 1h mage, do you mean use a Rapier instead of staff?

No, a wakizashi is better.
And you still use spells.
But you can equip a buckler in offhand and block+counter at the same time.
Basically you're almost tanky as 1H, with mage spells.
Of course is weaker, but it's good to build proficiencies and get used to the playstyle.
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Ok, let's start. This is about Elemental Mages only.
1H mage means Waki of Nimble/Battlecaster of your selected Element + Buckler of Barrier/Nimble/Battlecaster.
For Equipment you use 3 phases of your selected Element + 2 cottons of the Elementalist.
This is tankier than a common mage but weaker.
Mage means a matching Staff of your element (for an example if Elec Shocking Willow of Destruction/Mjolnir).
For Equipment you use 4 phases of your selected Element + 1 cottons of the Elementalist.
For both of those Imperil is necessary for the playstyle.
Your prof_factor=(elem_prof-level)/level should be near 0.68 for optimal play.

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post Jan 18 2017, 20:56
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1 ticket to San Francisco coming your way.

How's the weather there?
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post Jan 18 2017, 21:01
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How's the weather there?

[lmgtfy.com] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=san+francisco+meteo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jan 18 2017, 21:02
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How's the weather there?


I never go there, but I hear there's lots of smug this time of year . (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 18 2017, 21:09
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 18 2017, 18:44) *

Can i advise you to start with 1h mage to get the prof up and don't die miserably?
Because with those stats i'm pretty sure you'll get mauled to death.



Unlike the melee style, mage has indeed the problem that prof goes up very slowly while playing it normally.
As such i would also advice you to start as 1h/mage. It's not mana friendly, but it's safe.

My pretty much not forged 1h/mage has the same clear speed as my somewhat forged 1h/heavy, but of course i have to be glopping down those mana potions as if i'm an alcoholic with it so...

The only 1h/mage style i accept is the thunder type, since the style's proks, help the already hardened clear.

Fire spells give the effect to the enemies to do 10% less damage to you.
Ice spells slow them down.
Wind spells make them miss you.
Thunder spells reduce their chance to resist you.

So considering that 1h/mage has to deal with the enemy resistances and does not have the staff mage buffs, thunder debuff is the best (or actually the only useful one).

Waki has the best parry among 1h weapons hence you wanna find a waki, but then again i always used a shortsword when playing 1h/mage, so it's not such a big deal for a temporary style. If your gear is bad look for a waki to cover up your defense holes, but seriously... this is not important.

However, you need to keep in one of your hand holdings a battlecaster.
You either get a battlecaster weapon and a good shield or get a nimble waki/short/rapier and a battlecaster shield. Otherwise you'll have to start looking at the elixirs and that's... not good. You can get them both battlecaster but that will reduce your defenses and it's not really needed.

2 phage / 3 cloth is ... don't know. Never tried it.
3 phage /2 cloth is ok.
4 phage / 1 cloth is ok
5 phage is ok.

Either way you are going to have your spells resisted and doing reduced damage, so it's not like you have to try and reach a specific proficiency level. What you can find works.
Literally 1h/mage is a bad mage style that is however very good for proficiency training. So get what you can and go for it without much fear, since you won't be staying with it for long.

Edit: that took for ever to write... i don't know how you people handle these new devilish thingie devices nowadays!!!

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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 18 2017, 10:55) *

Ok, let's start. This is about Elemental Mages only.
1H mage means Waki of Nimble/Battlecaster of your selected Element + Buckler of Barrier/Nimble/Battlecaster.
For Equipment you use 3 phases of your selected Element + 2 cottons of the Elementalist.
This is tankier than a common mage but weaker.
Mage means a matching Staff of your element (for an example if Elec Shocking Willow of Destruction/Mjolnir).
For Equipment you use 4 phases of your selected Element + 1 cottons of the Elementalist.
For both of those Imperil is necessary for the playstyle.
Your prof_factor=(elem_prof-level)/level should be near 0.68 for optimal play.


I fully understand that! Thank you!
I don't think I have a buckler.. I don't think I have any shields at all... but I'll get one.

And I don't have 3 phases of elect... or any other element, but I'll struggle until I do. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thank you!! I'm sending you a gift for the clear answer.
And also because you're a good guy.
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post Jan 18 2017, 21:13
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 18 2017, 11:09) *

Unlike the melee style, mage has indeed the problem that prof goes up very slowly while playing it normally.
As such i would also advice you to start as 1h/mage. It's not mana friendly, but it's safe.

My pretty much not forged 1h/mage has the same clear speed as my somewhat forged 1h/heavy, but of course i have to be glopping down those mana potions as if i'm an alcoholic with it so...

The only 1h/mage style i accept is the thunder type, since the style's proks, help the already hardened clear.

Fire spells give the effect to the enemies to do 10% less damage to you.
Ice spells slow them down.
Wind spells make them miss you.
Thunder spells reduce their chance to resist you.

So considering that 1h/mage has to deal with the enemy resistances and does not have the staff mage buffs, thunder debuff is the best (or actually the only useful one).

Waki has the best parry among 1h weapons hence you wanna find a waki, but then again i always used a shortsword when playing 1h/mage, so it's not such a big deal for a temporary style. If your gear is bad look for a waki to cover up your defense holes, but seriously... this is not important.

However, you need to keep in one of your hand holdings a battlecaster.
You either get a battlecaster weapon and a good shield or get a nimble waki/short/rapier and a battlecaster shield. Otherwise you'll have to start looking at the elixirs and that's... not good. You can get them both battlecaster but that will reduce your defenses and it's not really needed.

2 phage / 3 cloth is ... don't know. Never tried it.
3 phage /2 cloth is ok.
4 phage / 1 cloth is ok
5 phage is ok.

Either way you are going to have your spells resisted and doing reduced damage, so it's not like you have to try and reach a specific proficiency level. What you can find works.
Literally 1h/mage is a bad mage style that is however very good for proficiency training. So get what you can and go for it without much fear, since you won't be staying with it for long.

Edit: that took for ever to write... i don't know how you people handle these new devilish thingie devices nowadays!!!


Another fantastic answer. Thanks Epion!
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post Jan 18 2017, 21:26
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 18 2017, 20:09) *

Literally 1h/mage is a bad mage style that is however very good for proficiency training. So get what you can and go for it without much fear, since you won't be staying with it for long.


That, really. No need to go for exceptional stuff if you're just looking to grind some prof. Back then, I was using Battlecaster Waki + Buckler, both unforged, and dying was literally impossible even at IWBTH. After all, you'll likely have decent Evade, Block, Parry and Resist at the same time, so unlike DW Shade (piercing) or 1H Heavy (Magic) you won't really have any serious weakness with that setup.
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