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Jul 22 2021, 04:25
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Thyc @ Jul 22 2021, 01:10)  I'm guessing I've got my stats all messed up so any help is appreciated. Advice on gear is greatly appreciated. Currently doing 1h rapier with shield and heavy armor.
This is not really the right place for that. If you search advice i suggest to ask in the ask the experts. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=211064But from a quick look, i dont see anything fundamentally wrong with your stats. Agi is maybe a bit higher as i would have it, but that is hardly a problem. Also i personally would prefer to have more dex as str for the additional crit chance and parry. But also no big deal. The weapon is iwed, maybe not ideal, but exq so that is okay. You have some forging on most of the staff, are using an SDE force shield and have at least some IW on your equipment. Stats seem also fine. I just would suggest to switch the shield helmet with power armor right the second you drop a Mag power one.
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Jul 22 2021, 05:18
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sharmy
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QUOTE(Thyc @ Jul 22 2021, 01:10)  Your Rapier is not good for post-level 300 player at all, don't invest anymore, try to get a better one Also try to collect a full Mag./Leg. set of Power Armors
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Aug 3 2021, 21:51
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lololo16
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everything looks fine, except the club and the shield. You need a rapier of slaughter (balance/nimble are ok too at your level). And a force shield or buckler of the barrier. They'll help you a lot to clear pfudor arenas
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Aug 10 2021, 19:41
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dexter90
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Aug 12 2021, 07:46
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Adhinferno Bloodmoon
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Aug 4 2021, 03:51)  everything looks fine, except the club and the shield. You need a rapier of slaughter (balance/nimble are ok too at your level). And a force shield or buckler of the barrier. They'll help you a lot to clear pfudor arenas
Hmmm.... Force Shield or Buckler of Barrier...... I don't have any at Exquisite+ Quality (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But this is good to take note when I have any (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by Adhinferno Bloodmoon: Aug 12 2021, 07:47
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Aug 14 2021, 03:38
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Greshnik
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Customary stats post every 25 Lv... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Lv. 375  With 4 Slaughter + 1 Balance aka Arena set: CODE Fighting Style One-Handed (void) 30% Overwhelming Strikes on hit 75% Counter-Attack on block/parry
Physical Attack 9227 attack base damage 216.2% hit chance 46.3% crit chance / +61% damage 0% attack speed bonus
Magical Attack 508 magic base damage 99% hit chance 0% crit chance / +50% damage 163.2% mana cost modifier 0% cast speed bonus
Vitals 29017 health points 1808 magic points +33 magic regen per tick 1346 spirit points +10 spirit regen per tick
Defense 73.8% physical mitigation 72.5% magical mitigation 3.3% evade chance 65.1% block chance 57.5% parry chance 19% resist chance
Compromise 126.5 interference 65.3 burden
Specific Mitigation 29.6% fire 0.0% cold 44.3% elec 65.1% wind 38.0% holy 53.9% dark 39.4% crushing 47.9% slashing 47.9% piercing 0.0% void
Spell Damage Bonus 0.0% fire 0.0% cold 0.0% elec 0.0% wind 36.1% holy 0.0% dark
Effective Primary Stats 1046 strength 1006 dexterity 375 agility 801 endurance 36 intelligence 476 wisdom
Effective Proficiency 413 one-handed 331 two-handed 332 dual wielding 331 staff 331 cloth armor 332 light armor 413 heavy armor 371 elemental 332 divine 378 forbidden 443 deprecating 413 supportive
With slightly more defensive set: CODE Fighting Style One-Handed (void) 30% Overwhelming Strikes on hit 75% Counter-Attack on block/parry
Physical Attack 8778 attack base damage 217.7% hit chance 46.7% crit chance / +64% damage 0% attack speed bonus
Magical Attack 508 magic base damage 99% hit chance 0% crit chance / +50% damage 162.9 % mana cost modifier 0% cast speed bonus
Vitals 28892 health points 1894 magic points +33 magic regen per tick 1353 spirit points +10 spirit regen per tick
Defense 75.7% physical mitigation 72.2% magical mitigation 3.2% evade chance 65.1% block chance 57.9% parry chance 19% resist chance
Compromise 125.8 interference 65.7 burden
Specific Mitigation 29.6% fire 0.0% cold 34.1% elec 66.6% wind 33.0% holy 32.3% dark 39.0% crushing 48.1% slashing 48.1% piercing 0.0% void
Spell Damage Bonus 0.0% fire 0.0% cold 0.0% elec 0.0% wind 36.1% holy 0.0% dark
Effective Primary Stats 1055 strength 1020 dexterity 375 agility 794 endurance 36 intelligence 476 wisdom
Effective Proficiency 413 one-handed 331 two-handed 332 dual wielding 331 staff 331 cloth armor 332 light armor 413 heavy armor 371 elemental 332 divine 378 forbidden 443 deprecating 413 supportive
Nowadays I mostly uses shortsword instead of rapier because when playing on phone I feel its hard to spread the PA to make counter attack effective... That's why I switch to imperil shortsword so I could focus on one monster first ( though mostly because my shortsword has better stats (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )... Any advice are welcome and sorry for the long post... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by Greshnik: Aug 14 2021, 03:41
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Aug 14 2021, 19:01
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Somnophil
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(IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/X8tePuL.png) Basically, I like to quickly play casual arena/GR on lower difficulties, gathering enough crystals and chow to sustain my small 9-monster stable. 2H means I beat more enemies at once, and the mace's stun proc means better survivability and less time wasted having to heal. Quick note: Thanks to a "you won the lottery" type moment years ago, I actually have the orbital friendship cannon already, despite being a relatively casual player. Edit two: I know it says Nintendo, but I actually spend more time on Hell. I strongly dislike having to break a sweat. I am open to changes and suggestions, though. This post has been edited by Somnophil: Aug 14 2021, 19:07
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Aug 20 2021, 04:37
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idua753
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(IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/VyfWq13.png) Am I correctly distributing my stats? Should I continue to use 1H and shield with light armor or should I switch to 2H? I feel like I'm not doing enough damage while also taking too much damage. Been mostly playing on Hell or Nightmare. Nintendo is nearly impossible for me unless I play extremely strategically. Any advice would be appreciated (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Aug 20 2021, 08:07
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Noni
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QUOTE(idua753 @ Aug 20 2021, 04:37)  (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/VyfWq13.png) Am I correctly distributing my stats? Should I continue to use 1H and shield with light armor or should I switch to 2H? I feel like I'm not doing enough damage while also taking too much damage. Been mostly playing on Hell or Nightmare. Nintendo is nearly impossible for me unless I play extremely strategically. Any advice would be appreciated (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 2h is not so good in the current meta - well, it is until a certain level, and your about to pass that level. Easiest way to go forward is replacing your light armor with power armor. And of course, find better versions for your shield and weapon regularly. IW your weapon to 10 for the extra strike, every time when you get a new weapon. Forge your gear a bit if you found a good one that you want to use for a while. PFUDOR should be possible with 1h - use weaken (best debuf, when that is available) or 'silence' or 'slow', or 'sleep' - whatever you have at hand. Find a decent force shield. What I did in Isekai is shrine my trophies for shields, that gave me 2 magnificent force shields and 2 legendary force shields, at relatively low level. But, you will miss the income from selling trophies off course. So maybe this is only an alternative if there aren't any decent shields for sale. Forge your block. Whenever you feel that you can't play PFUDOR comfortable, forge your block. get the Orbital Friendship Cannon. Use it strategically.
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Aug 24 2021, 04:24
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idua753
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QUOTE(Noni @ Aug 20 2021, 02:07)  2h is not so good in the current meta - well, it is until a certain level, and your about to pass that level. Easiest way to go forward is replacing your light armor with power armor. And of course, find better versions for your shield and weapon regularly. IW your weapon to 10 for the extra strike, every time when you get a new weapon. Forge your gear a bit if you found a good one that you want to use for a while. PFUDOR should be possible with 1h - use weaken (best debuf, when that is available) or 'silence' or 'slow', or 'sleep' - whatever you have at hand.
Find a decent force shield. What I did in Isekai is shrine my trophies for shields, that gave me 2 magnificent force shields and 2 legendary force shields, at relatively low level. But, you will miss the income from selling trophies off course. So maybe this is only an alternative if there aren't any decent shields for sale.
Forge your block. Whenever you feel that you can't play PFUDOR comfortable, forge your block.
get the Orbital Friendship Cannon. Use it strategically.
Appreciate the advice.
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Aug 25 2021, 21:21
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killi890
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Playing Isekai, I also really realized how bad 2 handed gets around level 200. It could probably be fixed by making domino strikes guaranteed hits when they happen (when the style doesn't suck, aka early, this is basically the state anyway, while later on 2h just misses everything), and by having domino triggers generate overcharge. 1h+s is so silly, because you can basically stay in spirit mode 100% of the time, which is double damage. Add to that the counters, better survivability and so on, the choice is clear once you hit ~lvl180. You even get more damage per proficiency, which means swapping weapons for higher level ones isn't quite as needed as with 2h. It also made me question why certain weapon types even exist. What's the point of Estocs and Longswords? As far as surviving things goes, the only helpful thing is the Mace, while the Katana is for Niten. Unlike 1h, where depending on your shield's quality you can probably get by without necessarily having a good parry weapon (doubly so past 250), I have a hard time seeing these two weapon types working with 2h. Also kinda wonder about the idea of heavy armor that's not power armor. Can't help but feel that damage reduction needs some kind of huge buff, although it's obviously a risky thing to do. Also feels weird how they are bad against crush damage, where crush damage is so prominent. Maybe it makes sense if you consider real heavy armor, but I'm not sure if it helps the game. [/random thoughts] tl;dr: 1h > 2h -> lvl~180+, as far as I'm concerned. At least with power armor. Even with this crappy rapier with counter parry of all things, and this crappy shield, as well as only 3 out of 5 slots with power armor. The shield is even from the bazaar.
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Aug 27 2021, 19:43
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killi890
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The problem you have with 2h is that eventually the difficulty goes so high, that every special by enemies is going to hit your spirit shield. Mitigation won't help you. So the best thing to get against that is simply not getting hit. Things scale quite a bit past Nintendo, and/or the item world. The damage gets pretty silly.
I'm not entirely sure about this, but I don't think tanking is an option in the long run. Thus your option with 2h is praying for mace stuns. If it works, nice. But you probably still wanna do something about your evade and parry chance, as much as you can at least. Even more so with another weapon type.
That said, things like weaken and slow might help out in some ways as well. Though that is universal, 1h hates using slow.
This post has been edited by killi890: Aug 27 2021, 19:44
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Aug 27 2021, 20:13
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fiiz
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QUOTE(killi890 @ Aug 27 2021, 09:43)  So the best thing to get against that is simply not getting hit
I'm planning that change to use 1H+heavy. A shield will do well in preventing attacks. How about exquisite heavy? I can't use armors of better quality cause they have a high level.
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Aug 27 2021, 20:40
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dibdib
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QUOTE(killi890 @ Aug 27 2021, 20:43)  The problem you have with 2h is that eventually the difficulty goes so high, that every special by enemies is going to hit your spirit shield. Mitigation won't help you. So the best thing to get against that is simply not getting hit. Things scale quite a bit past Nintendo, and/or the item world. The damage gets pretty silly.
I'm not entirely sure about this, but I don't think tanking is an option in the long run. Thus your option with 2h is praying for mace stuns. If it works, nice. But you probably still wanna do something about your evade and parry chance, as much as you can at least. Even more so with another weapon type.
And later it is viable again, if you don't mind to spend the time. I'm playing it now for fun, but only regular arenas and 100-rounds IW on PFUDOR. But! For comfort you'll need maxed imperil and Fus Ro Dah (i.e. you need to pass DWD on forced PFUDOR). With FRD you don't need to rely on mace, and can kill at least 7-8 stunned monsters (with ethereal longsword). Or all, if you have enough OC for FRD + RB. But i have no idea if it possible to get here 2H all the way and how long it will be. With 1H or 1H and mage later (this is my case) it will probably be both faster and more comfortable.
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Aug 28 2021, 08:48
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killi890
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QUOTE(dibdib @ Aug 27 2021, 20:40)  And later it is viable again, if you don't mind to spend the time. I'm playing it now for fun, but only regular arenas and 100-rounds IW on PFUDOR. But! For comfort you'll need maxed imperil and Fus Ro Dah (i.e. you need to pass DWD on forced PFUDOR). With FRD you don't need to rely on mace, and can kill at least 7-8 stunned monsters (with ethereal longsword). Or all, if you have enough OC for FRD + RB. But i have no idea if it possible to get here 2H all the way and how long it will be. With 1H or 1H and mage later (this is my case) it will probably be both faster and more comfortable.
I can definitely see that. That ability can really help, as long as you can manage overcharge and the cooldown. So that's a weird balance act of a lot of damage, but not too much, so you can get it back before the next round. Though even before that, 2h works like that, as you kinda want your RB around. Still feels awkward though, as spirit stance is so big with 1h and 2h relies on its skills too much to still make use out of it. The cost for FRD alone requires you to hit a target for 10 times or so? If a hit domino could produce overcharge like 1h counter could, this would actually be very viable. Still though, with FRD I can see certain arenas, like the school girl ones, be quite nicely done 2h. Those aren't that big of a problem in the first place though. I guess in the end 2h will be 2h. Kinda.. lackluster.
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Aug 28 2021, 09:48
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fiiz
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Aug 28 2021, 19:23
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Noni
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QUOTE(jiuqi97 @ Aug 28 2021, 09:48)  I wouldn't bother, just the weapon is good enough, the rest will be replaced soon. This post has been edited by Noni: Aug 28 2021, 19:24
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Oct 30 2021, 09:40
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fiiz
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I have been playing 1H heavy since lv270~, and it's very safe but a bit slower. I decided to play mage. Faster and challenging About the PABs, am I doing right? (IMG:[ i.loli.net] https://i.loli.net/2021/10/30/xIYVS6MuXqjmnFK.png) This post has been edited by jiuqi97: Oct 30 2021, 11:59
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