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Feb 21 2021, 01:36
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lololo16
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QUOTE(davyix @ Feb 20 2021, 20:20)  Dunno if this is worth anything. I was happy it drop with the suffix and quality. Finally an ok legend perhaps? But then understood a little bit more about those % lately...hmm not sure about that now. Good thing it's a low /mid lvl, so there should be some worth right? https://hentaiverse.org/equip/268420317/20d554e0d0PC on it ty. could be 100k, if it doesn't sell in auction, put it in a shop later
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Feb 21 2021, 10:13
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Necromusume @ Feb 20 2021, 20:46)  Send it to me, I'll send it to the auction for you, and then I'll send you the proceeds. No rule against that.
If it gets to be a regular thing I'll set up a "banned from the auction" proxy submitting service for a 1% fee.
Not that I have anything personally against piyin, but are you sure it's a good idea to offer ban evasion services? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Feb 21 2021, 11:31
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Necromusume
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Depends what they were banned for. Pulling an item? I'm not going to do that, so the system gets a stable seller. Nonpayment? I'm not going to do that either, so the system gets a stable buyer. Shill bidding? That's more problematic, since you could still do that while employing a proxy seller, without the proxy seller needing to be involved.
If someone is going to be permabanned from one of the most important parts of the economy, and you want other people not to help them, then you need a very public ban list & record of the reasons why. Burden of proof is on the accuser, and if you want a permanent sanction, you need a permanent record of the proof.
I'd planned to do things transparently so people could voice any legitimate objections.
Really, it's more of a problem than it used to be because there used to be 2+ competing auctioneers. Superlatanium says he doesn't aim to be a profit maximizer, so when he built a largely automated system, he starting running it for free for the benefit of the community. And this incidentally ends up permanently disfranchising people who get banned once, because there's no longer turnover of auctioneers as they get burnt out, and competing auctions to go to.
So, maybe it's time to solve that by time-limiting bans except for the most severe offenses?
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Feb 21 2021, 11:54
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Noni
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QUOTE(Necromusume @ Feb 21 2021, 10:31)  Depends what they were banned for. Pulling an item? I'm not going to do that, so the system gets a stable seller. Nonpayment? I'm not going to do that either, so the system gets a stable buyer. Shill bidding? That's more problematic, since you could still do that while employing a proxy seller, without the proxy seller needing to be involved.
If someone is going to be permabanned from one of the most important parts of the economy, and you want other people not to help them, then you need a very public ban list & record of the reasons why. Burden of proof is on the accuser, and if you want a permanent sanction, you need a permanent record of the proof.
I'd planned to do things transparently so people could voice any legitimate objections.
Really, it's more of a problem than it used to be because there used to be 2+ competing auctioneers. Superlatanium says he doesn't aim to be a profit maximizer, so when he built a largely automated system, he starting running it for free for the benefit of the community. And this incidentally ends up permanently disfranchising people who get banned once, because there's no longer turnover of auctioneers as they get burnt out, and competing auctions to go to.
So, maybe it's time to solve that by time-limiting bans except for the most severe offenses?
If you were around at the time, you may have heard what happened. We have been transparent, but it is not useful to keep repeating the issues. It had nothing to do with this particular auction, though. None of the examples you mentioned were the reason. But we may have to look into that particular ban and discuss if it is still proportional. It may well be, as some feel that this user should not have access to his account for 1000 years - although it is important to stress that only one person decides on account bans, and that is not the HV Mod team. Our opinions do not matter at all in such cases. So yeah, let's see - I must admit it has been a while ago already.
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Feb 22 2021, 20:25
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Noni
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QUOTE(KingArtson @ Feb 22 2021, 16:21)  15m or so?
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Feb 22 2021, 23:25
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subzeroX
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Feb 22 2021, 23:37
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Noni
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QUOTE(subzeroX @ Feb 22 2021, 22:25)  the slaughter is a valuable item. If you want to sell, I'll make you an offer. The swiftness has no value, I think This post has been edited by Noni: Feb 22 2021, 23:37
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Feb 23 2021, 05:35
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subzeroX
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QUOTE(Noni @ Feb 22 2021, 13:37)  the slaughter is a valuable item. If you want to sell, I'll make you an offer. The swiftness has no value, I think
Thanks. Yup I want to sell it for PC.
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Feb 23 2021, 05:39
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lololo16
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QUOTE(subzeroX @ Feb 22 2021, 18:25)  like 10m persistent This post has been edited by lololo16: Feb 23 2021, 05:39
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Feb 23 2021, 11:26
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chjj30
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QUOTE(Arkoniusx @ Feb 23 2021, 16:19)  Do you think this weapon still have some value? Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of SlaughterYes, please try it in Auction.
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Feb 23 2021, 17:47
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3534
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Feb 23 2021, 20:47
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Noni
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QUOTE(3534 @ Feb 23 2021, 16:47)  1. this will probably not sell... 2. not the best stats, but I can see this go for 50-100k 3. Nobody uses slaughter waki...
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Feb 25 2021, 12:51
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Shank
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Feb 25 2021, 15:18
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pooaa
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QUOTE(Shank @ Feb 25 2021, 18:51)  thanks, i corrected it
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Feb 25 2021, 20:33
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Noni
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Feb 25 2021, 14:18)  thanks, i corrected it
valuable items, both of them. How valuable? That's hard to predict in isekai
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Feb 26 2021, 10:11
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LeoneRE
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Feb 26 2021, 14:52
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Thor Odinsson
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