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post Mar 16 2019, 05:12
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https://hentaiverse.org/equip/182636962/146baab2b2
Is this worth 2~3m? The roll looks not bad. I have no experience in playing a mage though, isn't willow stuff preferred for having counter-resist?
How dangerous is it for mage beginners to use this kind of redwood?
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post Mar 16 2019, 05:39
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500k-1m.

If you don't plan to play PFFEST/PF Item World, Redwood works fine. In fact, Redwood is supposedly better for normal arenas.
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post Mar 16 2019, 07:13
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 15 2019, 19:39) *

500k-1m.

If you don't plan to play PFFEST/PF Item World, Redwood works fine. In fact, Redwood is supposedly better for normal arenas.


Then how about some willow staff like this?
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post Mar 16 2019, 07:25
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1-3m.

The one on the top would give you better performance for now, tho. But it's def not worth 2-3m.
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post Mar 16 2019, 14:15
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 15 2019, 21:25) *

1-3m.

The one on the top would give you better performance for now, tho. But it's def not worth 2-3m.


Interesting. Your answer made me more and more curious. It seems like counter-resist make imp easier in IW or GF environments.

I did some calculation on the effective damage to compare the aforementioned willow staff and another one, they are pretty close, then their counter-resist rolls distinguish their prices?

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/174709979/2803d7c30e

vs another willow

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/186763167/a6a3ed9c23
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post Mar 16 2019, 16:09
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I'd say second one would have better damage output, but at the end of the day you want to get something better anyways, and while this lv313 one can be used for a temporary item, to use the second one you need to soulfuse it, which is not worth it.

But if they were same level, or you'd soulfuse your staff anyways, I'd say second one's a better staff.
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post Mar 16 2019, 17:15
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QUOTE(Saioux @ Mar 16 2019, 06:09) *

I'd say second one would have better damage output, but at the end of the day you want to get something better anyways, and while this lv313 one can be used for a temporary item, to use the second one you need to soulfuse it, which is not worth it.

But if they were same level, or you'd soulfuse your staff anyways, I'd say second one's a better staff.


Wait, I did a calculation based on a rough estimate that "1MDB=0.81EDB" for the damage output:

In calculating MDB and EDB bases, staff 2 is .577% better than staff 1;
In calculating MDB and EDB values, staff 2 is .388% better than staff 1;
staff 2 has slightly higher Elem Prof, staff 1 has a little higher Depr Prof but much higher Counter-Resist chance.

This is how I got my earlier conclusion that they have very close damage output, and further that their main difference is on counter-resist. What am I missing or have I mistaken in my thought process?

Yet at the end of the day, staff 2 only auctioned 0.88m while the start price for staff 1 is 2m... I tend to remove the level difference from the equation here, because a difference of 1000 fragments is only roughly 20 days RE, so I may soulfuse either one. I guess no one would want to keep playing a low level staff for 20 days unless he forces his level not to grow fast, raise fund at the same time, AND get a way better staff 20 days later.
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post Mar 16 2019, 18:01
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I don't know what you mean by 1MDB=0.81EDB, but in terms of percentile, MDB 1%= EDB 2~3%

To be fair, there isn't such thing as very close damage output for staffs. It's either higher or lower - you just gotta live with it since ppl are paying tens of millions extra for a percent or two increase in the damage output. And the second staff got higher INT and WIS.

Staff 1's got starting price of 2m cuz the seller asked for the starting price lol. It's buyer's decision to whether buy it at 2m or not. It's not that every item gets a fair price on every auction - sometimes they sell for way less than their worth, and sometimes the opposite.

Let's just put it this way: Neither of them are soulfuse-worthy if you are serious about maging, and staff1 happened to find a buyer due to its low level.

Personally I'd have looked for a redwood staff with much better rolls at much cheaper price, since you won't be playing pffest anytime soon.
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post Mar 17 2019, 04:50
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post Mar 17 2019, 11:01
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Maybe 200k~500k

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post Mar 17 2019, 13:01
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Legendary Mystic Phase Pants of Surtr

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post Mar 17 2019, 13:38
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QUOTE(tecche @ Mar 17 2019, 12:01) *

Legendary Mystic Phase Pants of Surtr

I'm honestly wondering about this one


Surtr is not popular. 100k or so.
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post Mar 17 2019, 16:52
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Not an evaluation of one of my pieces but, how much would you guys value Peerless Agile/Reinforced Leather x of Protection pieces at?
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post Mar 17 2019, 17:04
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 17 2019, 11:52) *

Not an evaluation of one of my pieces but, how much would you guys value Peerless Agile/Reinforced Leather x of Protection pieces at?


50k!? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

In reality it depends. If such a piece appears in an auction, and nobody cares, then it's only 50k. If 2 or more rich collectors enter the dispute, this can reach 1m (or more).
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post Mar 17 2019, 19:01
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QUOTE(lestion @ Mar 18 2019, 00:52) *

Not an evaluation of one of my pieces but, how much would you guys value Peerless Agile/Reinforced Leather x of Protection pieces at?

QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Mar 18 2019, 01:04) *

50k!? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

In reality it depends. If such a piece appears in an auction, and nobody cares, then it's only 50k. If 2 or more rich collectors enter the dispute, this can reach 1m (or more).


I want Agile/Reinforced leather of Protections! just give me your asking price.

How much should this go at auction?
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post Mar 17 2019, 19:14
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QUOTE(treesloth @ Mar 17 2019, 18:01) *

I want Agile/Reinforced leather of Protections! just give me your asking price.

How much should this go at auction?
Legendary Shocking Willow Staff of Destruction


2-5m I'd say.
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post Mar 17 2019, 20:05
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QUOTE(treesloth @ Mar 17 2019, 17:01) *

I want Agile/Reinforced leather of Protections! just give me your asking price.


So do I, that's why I asked (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

One or two pieces might be useful for dw pfest purposes. I don't think it's likely to make a huge difference, but damage is not what's holding the style back there...
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post Mar 17 2019, 21:58
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[187422486] Legendary Mithril Plate Helmet of Dampening (Level 350)
bazaar?
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post Mar 17 2019, 22:10
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QUOTE(slay664 @ Mar 17 2019, 20:58) *

[187422486] Legendary Mithril Plate Helmet of Dampening (Level 350)
bazaar?

yeah
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post Mar 17 2019, 22:44
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May I have a price check please?

Lv.430 Legendary Radiant Phase Pants of Heimdall

Terrible rolls, I know. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

But well... I'm not going to sell this anyways, I'm just curious~
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