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I would price it at 10m, the level is low enough and most people don't really care about parry. It's an endgame rapier, but even if it wasn't, you should still use it without soulfuse and don't consider selling it until after you are overleveled enough to want another one.

Legendary Frugal Cotton Robe of the Elementalist

HGW? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Legendary Frugal Cotton Robe of the Elementalist

HGW? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

base on someone's shop, at least 200

base on someone's shop, at least 200

Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

excellent weapon, go for it!

just for quality, i would say 500-750, maybe higher for the ADB:95
and add Hallowed, even 1m-1.5m is possible.

3-5m

Can go for 10m with a bit of luck, but 5m seems more likely.

As some experts have already estimated, 3m at the very least. ppl 3~6m. But 10m, no 0%. It's very low level, at this level people barely get demonic/hallowed drop. Not to mention its 94% adb. It's no close to an end-game weapon because of the parry, but good enough for 1Hs as the final weapon.
First, I don't know where to start because I have no idea how your values work. The values are interdependent.
Second, you may want to PM when you have questions for others to avoid bumping the thread.

I would price it at 10m, the level is low enough and most people don't really care about parry. It's an endgame rapier, but even if it wasn't, you should still use it without soulfuse and don't consider selling it until after you are overleveled enough to want another one.

Thanks for all the replies! Damn, I didn't think it'd be worth as much as some of these quotes so I was planning on casually IW'ing it and using it myself for a while. It represents a 30-40% increase in (liquid) net worth for me though so that kinda puts me in a weird spot.

This post has been edited by ravenfrost123: Aug 16 2018, 19:58

Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter L343

3-5m

Can go for 10m with a bit of luck, but 5m seems more likely.

As some experts have already estimated, 3m at the very least. ppl 3~6m. But 10m, no 0%

I would price it at 10m, the level is low enough and most people don't really care about parry

Tell that to people who ignored my 98% ADB arctic rapier in my shop for months.
I didn't even get ONE offer, let alone 3m, or 10m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


Crap parry, low crit chance, even if the ADB is good, I think 2m is already too much, if you want to actually sell it in a reasonable time...

Tell that to people who ignored my 98% ADB arctic rapier in my shop for months.
I didn't even get ONE offer, let alone 3m, or 10m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
Crap parry, low crit chance, even if the ADB is good, I think 2m is already too much, if you want to actually sell it in a reasonable time...

but most of the price came from the Hallowed and low level usage and low level rare.

but most of the price came from the Hallowed and low level usage and low level rare.

If a piece is good, level doesn't matter.
If a piece doesn't, low levels will settle for not-that good stuff.

In any of the cases, the level is doing nothing.
Case 1 will get a lot, and case 2 won't because low level usually do not have the same budget as higherups.

Also Arctic is not much different from Hallowed, since it can be paired with the best spike for 1H and getting an elemental damage benefit from it.

This post has been edited by Juggernaut Santa: Aug 17 2018, 03:11

If a piece is good, level doesn't matter.
If a piece doesn't, low levels will settle for not-that good stuff.

In any of the cases, the level is doing nothing.
Case 1 will get a lot, and case 2 won't because low level usually do not have the same budget as higherups.

Also Arctic is not much different from Hallowed, since it can be paired with the best spike for 1H and getting an elemental damage benefit from it.

Hallowed is just a popular state, I can't judge it.

but level is a market reason:
most player are stuck on low level, the short supply and large need would raise the price.
in high level, the supply is much more than low level.

of course SF is the same, but
1.SF need level
2.SF cost item
3.sometimes you rather sail it than SF

just my opinion. hope don't mind.

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- Please beware: there is a risk of getting scammed in this thread
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- Or at least wait until you get more than one opinion about the price before selling
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Can i get some price checks on this?
It's been a while since i actively browse. I mostly just do a daily routine. So i don't even remember where im suppose to post this. This seems about right.

Seemed like an interesting drop.
EDIT: re titled the thread, and asked for PC on something else

[mod edit]: slightly modified the title.

this one, adb=-63, of course worthless.
you really need PR script.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry4887299
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?act=A...t&id=104900

base on my formula:
Magnificent Katana of Balance [Lv.305(SDA),ADB:-63 ] [Value:-63(242)] H300=-32;ADB=-80;SDA=-55;Balance=-40;Katana=-25;ADB=-17;SDA=-21;Balance=-24;Katana=-28;min=20; {"lv":"-2797% ","ADB":"-2762% ","SDA":"2689.% ","Balance":"1484.% ","Katana":"1484.% "} [Start:20k][Quick:30k] -27.785971986417653
+305/-63

This post has been edited by anruiersi: Aug 17 2018, 07:06

this one, adb=-63, of course worthless.
you really need PR script.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry4887299
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?act=A...t&id=104900

base on my formula:
Magnificent Katana of Balance [Lv.305(SDA),ADB:-63 ] [Value:-63(242)] H300=-32;ADB=-80;SDA=-55;Balance=-40;Katana=-25;ADB=-17;SDA=-21;Balance=-24;Katana=-28;min=20; {"lv":"-2797% ","ADB":"-2762% ","SDA":"2689.% ","Balance":"1484.% ","Katana":"1484.% "} [Start:20k][Quick:30k] -27.785971986417653
+305/-63

It got some values of memories to the owner for sure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by monkey_lmf: Aug 17 2018, 07:59

It got some values of memories to the owner for sure.

memories? what memories? dying in Nintendo difficulty? LOL

In most cases, demonic/hallowed/ethereal has almost no effect on the price of rapiers. That is my observation, I don't necessarily agree that is how it should be. Some people value them more, but some people do not care. And even those who value them more typically are not willing to pay for the prefix, they just want to ask for it in WTB then expect (rightfully so, due to the overall market) to get it for free.

Almost everyone will take a 70% ADB shocking rapier over a 50% ADB demonic/hallowed one. ADB is what gets the money, and again I don't necessarily think that is purely how it should be.

The problem with using a formula like anruiersi is doing is that others don't know what his formula is to judge it, and chances are the formula is not appropriate for all situations (in other words, wrong). I was going to discuss such a user-made equipment quality formula someday, not necessarily for pricing purposes but more just to judge the effectiveness. But I am saving such a discussion for a much later time.

Santa has priced his rapier correctly at 10m. In this case, because it is a top quality equipment, the level doesn't matter as much, as he said. It is more just a question of how quick it will sell, the lower level one should be able to sell quicker. Medium quality equipments are the ones that have a very different price depending on the level.

In most cases, demonic/hallowed/ethereal has almost no effect on the price of rapiers. That is my observation, I don't necessarily agree that is how it should be. Some people value them more, but some people do not care. And even those who value them more typically are not willing to pay for the prefix, they just want to ask for it in WTB then expect (rightfully so, due to the overall market) to get it for free.

Almost everyone will take a 70% ADB shocking rapier over a 50% ADB demonic/hallowed one. ADB is what gets the money, and again I don't necessarily think that is purely how it should be.

The problem with using a formula like anruiersi is doing is that others don't know what his formula is to judge it, and chances are the formula is not appropriate for all situations (in other words, wrong). I was going to discuss such a user-made equipment quality formula someday, not necessarily for pricing purposes but more just to judge the effectiveness. But I am saving such a discussion for a much later time.

Santa has priced his rapier correctly at 10m. In this case, because it is a top quality equipment, the level doesn't matter as much, as he said. It is more just a question of how quick it will sell, the lower level one should be able to sell quicker. Medium quality equipments are the ones that have a very different price depending on the level.

I don't know, but in now a day market, level counts, lv.200 E power of Sla worth some money, but lv.350 E power of Sla, even no one ask for my free equip.

I think the market is more based on supply and demand, more than product value. I think that Holy / Dark and Power Sla are overheated, but if someone is willing to pay, they will sell more.

and beside that, low level can really help to save some time, that's real gold.

This post has been edited by anruiersi: Aug 17 2018, 09:01

Santa has priced his rapier correctly at 10m. In this case, because it is a top quality equipment, the level doesn't matter as much, as he said. Medium quality equipments are the ones that have a very different price depending on the level.

Because Exquisite Power of Slaughter are a low quality of equipment, the price will vary tremendously with level.

Because Exquisite Power of Slaughter are a low quality of equipment, the price will vary tremendously with level.

ok, i get it. l q vary tremendously with level.

maybe h q less, but still, time worth sth. in that case I think at least save 1 month of time.

In most cases, demonic/hallowed/ethereal has almost no effect on the price of rapiers. That is my observation, I don't necessarily agree that is how it should be. Some people value them more, but some people do not care. And even those who value them more typically are not willing to pay for the prefix, they just want to ask for it in WTB then expect (rightfully so, due to the overall market) to get it for free.

Almost everyone will take a 70% ADB shocking rapier over a 50% ADB demonic/hallowed one. ADB is what gets the money, and again I don't necessarily think that is purely how it should be.

The problem with using a formula like anruiersi is doing is that others don't know what his formula is to judge it, and chances are the formula is not appropriate for all situations (in other words, wrong). I was going to discuss such a user-made equipment quality formula someday, not necessarily for pricing purposes but more just to judge the effectiveness. But I am saving such a discussion for a much later time.

Santa has priced his rapier correctly at 10m. In this case, because it is a top quality equipment, the level doesn't matter as much, as he said. It is more just a question of how quick it will sell, the lower level one should be able to sell quicker. Medium quality equipments are the ones that have a very different price depending on the level.

You seem to know nothing about the rapier market.
Firstly, players highly value demonic/hallowed rapiers. Any rapier recently reach 6m+ is demonic/hallowed. Ethereal is bullshit when it comes to 1H, but people still like ethereal. Elementals are usually trash even when they have good status, except for arctic, which can get good bids at occasionally.
[One02] Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter (Lv.500, ADB 83%, Parry 80%) (seller: morineko) b92203011 150k #30
[One02] Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter (488, ADB 91%, Parry 88%) (seller: ✟KNI✟) pach3 606k Proxy bid after #102; winning for 26.1h / 62.7h; -0.1%
Secondly, people do care about parry a lot. Any rapier that has high adb but low parry does not get high bids. That's a market trend, and your opinion does not matter.
[One01] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (500, ADB 94%, Parry 22%) (seller: Tsugumi Komachi) cosplayshoot 1.05m #128
[One02] Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter (Lv.412, ADB 97%, Parry 39%) (seller: teddy.bear) jplshejeser 1.8m #104
[One05] Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter (500, ADB 95%, Parry 42%) (seller: cbn) sabregimp 350k Proxy bid after #88
[One01] Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter (500, ADB 90%, Parry 60%) (seller: Void Domain) VawX 2.575m Proxy bid after #76
[One01] Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter (497, ADB 92%, Parry 60%) (seller: cylinnia) Lunarika 2.575m Proxy bid after #48
So bids on elemental ones seem to pretty random. The good ones sometimes fail to even reach 1m. Some Lv500 demonic/hallowed with moderate parry don't even get 3m.
Now I'll pray for you so Santa's arctic one with shitty parry would sell for 10m. It's just a matter of time I would try to believe in it.

Now let's take a look at high bids.
[One02] Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter (460, ADB 86%, Parry 94%) (seller: rjgc) Fi­re 11m #157. Super 107
[One01] Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter (393, ADB 95%, Parry 95%, Str 93%, Dex 89%, Agi 93%) (seller: 3534. Start: 1m) hekiga 10.197m Super 121
No exceptions. Hallowed/Demonic with high Adb and Parry.
Now I tell you if the level matters. If it's peerless quality, and demonic/hallowed will always get good bids because they are collections for rich players. Not for use.
If it's good status, Non-demonic/hallowed, low-level, players would still pay 3m or so depending on the situations. But players still prefer demonic/hallowed rapiers.
The reason why rapier is getting lower bids is obvious, because more players have figured out how weak melees are. Nobody is wasting 5m, or even 10m on bullshit lv500 rapiers. They've mostly transferred to mages already before they get to lv400 and are able to soulfuse lv500 rapiers.
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

easy,easy, I know you are not slamming my face, but why my face so hot?
It's good to know about the collection market, and what else do they collect?

Ok. Sometimes I'm too lazy to click "quote". Apology.
I was talking to the person above your post.

This post has been edited by -vincento-: Aug 17 2018, 10:05

You seem to know nothing about the rapier market.
Firstly, players highly value demonic/hallowed rapiers. Any rapier recently reach 6m+ is demonic/hallowed. Ethereal is bullshit when it comes to 1H, but people still like ethereal. Elementals are usually trash even when they have good status, except for arctic, which can get good bids at occasionally.
[One02] Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter (Lv.500, ADB 83%, Parry 80%) (seller: morineko) b92203011 150k #30
[One02] Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter (488, ADB 91%, Parry 88%) (seller: ✟KNI✟) pach3 606k Proxy bid after #102; winning for 26.1h / 62.7h; -0.1%
Secondly, people do care about parry a lot. Any rapier that has high adb but low parry does not get high bids. That's a market trend, and your opinion does not matter.
[One01] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (500, ADB 94%, Parry 22%) (seller: Tsugumi Komachi) cosplayshoot 1.05m #128
[One02] Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter (Lv.412, ADB 97%, Parry 39%) (seller: teddy.bear) jplshejeser 1.8m #104
[One05] Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter (500, ADB 95%, Parry 42%) (seller: cbn) sabregimp 350k Proxy bid after #88
[One01] Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter (500, ADB 90%, Parry 60%) (seller: Void Domain) VawX 2.575m Proxy bid after #76
[One01] Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter (497, ADB 92%, Parry 60%) (seller: cylinnia) Lunarika 2.575m Proxy bid after #48
So bids on elemental ones seem to pretty random. The good ones sometimes fail to even reach 1m. Some Lv500 demonic/hallowed with moderate parry don't even get 3m.
Now I'll pray for you so Santa's arctic one with shitty parry would sell for 10m. It's just a matter of time I would try to believe in it.

Now let's take a look at high bids.
[One02] Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter (460, ADB 86%, Parry 94%) (seller: rjgc) Fi­re 11m #157. Super 107
[One01] Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter (393, ADB 95%, Parry 95%, Str 93%, Dex 89%, Agi 93%) (seller: 3534. Start: 1m) hekiga 10.197m Super 121
No exceptions. Hallowed/Demonic with high Adb and Parry.
Now I tell you if the level matters. If it's peerless quality, and demonic/hallowed will always get good bids because they are collections for rich players. Not for use.
If it's good status, Non-demonic/hallowed, low-level, players would still pay 3m or so depending on the situations. But players still prefer demonic/hallowed rapiers.
The reason why rapier is getting lower bids is obvious, because more players have figured out how weak melees are. Nobody is wasting 5m, or even 10m on bullshit lv500 rapiers. They've mostly transferred to mages already before they get to lv400 and are able to soulfuse lv500 rapiers.
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

easy,easy, I know you are not slamming my face, but why my face so hot?
It's good to know about the collection market, and what else do they collect?

easy,easy, I know you are not slamming my face, but why my face so hot?
It's good to know about the collection market, and what else do they collect?

Good and/or rare items.

base on my formula:
Magnificent Katana of Balance [Lv.305(SDA),ADB:-63 ] [Value:-63(242)] H300=-32;ADB=-80;SDA=-55;Balance=-40;Katana=-25;ADB=-17;SDA=-21;Balance=-24;Katana=-28;min=20; {"lv":"-2797% ","ADB":"-2762% ","SDA":"2689.% ","Balance":"1484.% ","Katana":"1484.% "} [Start:20k][Quick:30k] -27.785971986417653
+305/-63

In my experience, the market for equipment is quite volatile. That means: not stable. The prices can seriously drop or rise in a couple of months. A formula would be a very rough estimate. Not fit for determining real value for expensive items. You are free to try, but I don't believe in it.