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May 21 2018, 21:07
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@43883
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QUOTE(piyin @ May 21 2018, 05:03)  (unless is full of wrong info...somehow <_< ) If the wiki information is wrong, you are free to edit it. It is written by the community (in other words, all of us), not by gods. If you don't have wiki editing rights, you can ask Joe for them. Just make sure you don't make accidental edits too often, because accidents tend to stop being seen as accidents when they become too common. Thanks for your contributions.
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May 22 2018, 03:29
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jcullinane
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May 22 2018, 03:34
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piyin
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QUOTE(jcullinane @ May 22 2018, 03:29)  Mhhh... Nice! Maybe it can reach 50k on auction. Nimble nad balance are quite the thing on wakis (or so they say).
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May 22 2018, 15:29
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Null2Null
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QUOTE(chaosblade56 @ May 22 2018, 21:16)  it seems to be easily bidded over 8m in an auction (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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May 22 2018, 15:54
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-vincento-
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QUOTE(chaosblade56 @ May 22 2018, 21:16)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Is elementalist useful for elemental mages? I don't think anyone would need so many profs since imperil style only needs 0.65 factor..shoes are enough, why trade damage for unnecessary profs. It's practically useless in my opinion. Anyway, it should be still millions, ppl 1~3m. data long ago is not reliable. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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May 22 2018, 16:48
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Noni
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ May 22 2018, 15:54)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Is elementalist useful for elemental mages? I don't think anyone would need so many profs since imperil style only needs 0.65 factor..shoes are enough, why trade damage for unnecessary profs. It's practically useless in my opinion. Anyway, it should be still millions, ppl 1~3m. data long ago is not reliable. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) One could try playing 5 phases style with this. Makes this a very very interesting item. I should do the math, but I am on mobile atm. I'll calculate the possible prof factor with this staff only, and if it's near 0.65, this could be the best staff ever. This post has been edited by DJNoni: May 22 2018, 16:48
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May 22 2018, 17:00
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Scremaz
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assuming 442 base prof, factor is: 0.53 without perk and with 5 forge level 0.63 with the perk and with 5 forge level. 0.61 without perk and with 25 forge levels.
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May 22 2018, 17:01
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-vincento-
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 22 2018, 22:48)  One could try playing 5 phases style with this. Makes this a very very interesting item. I should do the math, but I am on mobile atm. I'll calculate the possible prof factor with this staff only, and if it's near 0.65, this could be the best staff ever.
That was the issue I was talking about. I assume a elementalist suffix, after full forging offers too many profs that would put you over 0.65. So you are trading so much MDB in exchange of excessive profs and extra EDB of your shoes that do little extra. Also for imperil elementals, which most people are playing, staff is only source for MDB. Too much MDB loss trading for the EDB of shoes should lower your total damage, according to the part of the equation (1+mdb)*(1+edb). Unless you play non-imperil....That's just my assumption, from my understanding. No calculation yet. Edit: OK. I did some calculation. So we put 217.26 at lv442--->rescale to lv500. I assume the player to be lv500, and prof 550 with perk(fairly low for a lv500 player right..). We got 92 exceeding....0.86prof factor.....yea. How about 600prof(theoretically maximum), now we are at 0.97. So it may be useful for non-imperil, but never imperil style. This post has been edited by -vincento-: May 22 2018, 17:26
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May 22 2018, 17:34
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Noni
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ May 22 2018, 17:01)  That was the issue I was talking about. I assume a elementalist suffix, after full forging offers too many profs that would put you over 0.65. So you are trading so much MDB in exchange of excessive profs and extra EDB of your shoes that do little extra. Also for imperil elementals, which most people are playing, staff is only source for MDB. Too much MDB loss trading for the EDB of shoes should lower your total damage, according to the part of the equation (1+mdb)*(1+edb). Unless you play non-imperil....That's just my assumption, from my understanding. No calculation yet. Edit: OK. I did some calculation. So we put 217.26 at lv442--->rescale to lv500. I assume the player to be lv500, and prof 550 with perk(fairly low for a lv500 player right..). We got 92 exceeding....0.86prof factor.....yea. How about 600prof(theoretically maximum), now we are at 0.97. So it may be useful for non-imperil, but never imperil style.
okay I get it. But this would allow you to play with radiant shoes, which would give some MDB back. A bit overkill, but still interesting when you don't have 600 proficiency. That makes this a valuable staff, I'd say.
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May 24 2018, 14:44
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Dk2017
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May 24 2018, 23:03
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(jcullinane @ May 22 2018, 03:29)  maybe a bit more than 50k, since element, Crit and PABs are very good. if you don't use it you may try to auction it, it's a nice waki.
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May 24 2018, 23:10
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lololo16
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May 25 2018, 01:21
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Null2Null
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ May 25 2018, 05:10)  2m is the limit I thought maybe i would say maybe the sky is the true limit (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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May 25 2018, 05:32
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savethequeen2
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Hey! I need a price check on this: Legendary Frugal Cotton Cap of the Demon-fiendI don't know what to do with it. If this fetches a low price (50k or less) I'll donate it to the FreeSHop, but considering this one has a prefix and a suffix I think I can auction it at a good price.
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May 25 2018, 05:46
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piyin
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QUOTE(savethequeen2 @ May 25 2018, 05:32)  Hey! I need a price check on this: Legendary Frugal Cotton Cap of the Demon-fiendI don't know what to do with it. If this fetches a low price (50k or less) I'll donate it to the FreeSHop, but considering this one has a prefix and a suffix I think I can auction it at a good price. Auction. Dont accept offers. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by piyin: May 25 2018, 05:46
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May 26 2018, 14:34
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sickentide
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 25 2018, 14:33)  2M for a kite shield, albeit peerless? really? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) i would pay that much and more for a peerless kite shield, but only if it was SDE/reinforced/dampening
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