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post Jan 6 2018, 23:25
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Jan 6 2018, 21:50) *

you can get some clues on closer inspection. namely the amount of durability remaining gives some decent clues (not conclusive). but yes he is very lucky to have come across 2 peerless at his level

QUOTE(chcommunity @ Jan 6 2018, 21:56) *

its not necessarily coming from a drop, you know. there's shrining too

^ i bet on this. the ethereal one coming from shrine, that it.

also, seems that however PXP0 is calculated, EDB doesn't affect it.
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post Jan 7 2018, 00:53
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Yup, I had realized that EDB and burden/interference don't affect PXP0 (even on legendaries) a while back. And presumably PXP0 does not affect burden/interference via quality_bonus. So it might be a guess that EDB also is not increased by quality_bonus, I can think of a way to possibly check that which I'll do at some point.

The dual (weak) relationship between PXP0 and stats is interesting. Having higher stats seems to influence PXP0 (?) and PXP0 also provides quality_bonus which increases the stats.

In particular, having more PABs (such as a magnificent heavy armor with 3 PABs instead of 2) greatly increases PXP0 and also the bazaar value of an equipment. And lately, I noticed that perhaps quality (legendary, magnificent, etc) and rarity may not provide 2x multipliers to bazaar cost like I originally thought, and the wiki supports. The bazaar cost could be entirely based off of PXP0 but in an exponential fashion. Because I noticed that Arcanist leather bazaar value is roughly twice as much as other suffixes. And Arcanist has higher PXP0 because of 2 added PABs.
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post Jan 7 2018, 03:50
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Legendary Cobalt Power Gauntlets of Slaughter

What's the value of this nowadays? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jan 7 2018, 03:59
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QUOTE(Darukunesu @ Jan 7 2018, 09:50) *

Legendary Cobalt Power Gauntlets of Slaughter

What's the value of this nowadays? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

adb is bad, lower than the top of mag level
pab isn't near the top of leg level

800k is the max I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

but nobody knows wat might happen in an auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jan 7 2018, 04:26
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QUOTE(Darukunesu @ Jan 7 2018, 02:50) *

Legendary Cobalt Power Gauntlets of Slaughter

What's the value of this nowadays? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Around 1m, this stuff flies off the shelves (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 7 2018, 09:09
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Peerless Ruby Phase Cap of Niflheim

Was pretty surprised getting this off a monster drop.
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post Jan 7 2018, 09:11
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QUOTE(FastCarZ @ Jan 7 2018, 08:09) *

Peerless Ruby Phase Cap of Niflheim

Was pretty surprised getting this off a monster drop.

Congratulations! Useful peerless, you got lucky! Expect to get 3-5m in auction. Maybe more.
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post Jan 7 2018, 12:36
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QUOTE(cbn @ Jan 7 2018, 02:59) *
adb is bad, lower than the top of mag level
pab isn't near the top of leg level

800k is the max I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

but nobody knows wat might happen in an auction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 7 2018, 03:26) *

Around 1m, this stuff flies off the shelves (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thank you!

And what about these force shields? I've been carrying them for quite a while and i think they can be useful to lower level people (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Magnificent Amber Force Shield of Warding
Magnificent Force Shield of Dampening
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post Jan 7 2018, 12:43
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QUOTE(Darukunesu @ Jan 7 2018, 10:50) *

Legendary Cobalt Power Gauntlets of Slaughter

What's the value of this nowadays? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I guess at least 1.5M
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post Jan 7 2018, 14:44
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https://hentaiverse.org/equip/134785117/f078af7a28
About how much?
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post Jan 7 2018, 16:19
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QUOTE(Darukunesu @ Jan 7 2018, 11:36) *

Maybe 50k to a newbie

QUOTE(as013 @ Jan 7 2018, 13:44) *

It's Arcanist and has bad ADB, i'd bet not much.

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post Jan 7 2018, 16:46
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150-200k is a reasonable price to expect from it. Bad ADB yes, but who cares? You don't want arcanist for its ADB, but for its PABs and magic accuracy. Though regarding that matter, it really ain't terrific either: subpar for both magic accuracy and Int, though very good Wis.
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post Jan 7 2018, 17:13
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 7 2018, 15:46) *

150-200k is a reasonable price to expect from it. Bad ADB yes, but who cares? You don't want arcanist for its ADB, but for its PABs and magic accuracy. Though regarding that matter, it really ain't terrific either: subpar for both magic accuracy and Int, though very good Wis.

actually, the ADB variability on shade is so little that imo nobody should care about it too much and focus on what the suffix (and eventually the prefix) boosts. that is, evade for fleet/shadowdancer (crit chance spread is so little that can be skipped as well), magic ACC/INT/WIS for arcanist and resist for negation.
and PABs on a general base (DEX and AGI in particular).

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post Jan 7 2018, 17:27
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jan 7 2018, 23:46) *

150-200k is a reasonable price to expect from it. Bad ADB yes, but who cares? You don't want arcanist for its ADB, but for its PABs and magic accuracy. Though regarding that matter, it really ain't terrific either: subpar for both magic accuracy and Int, though very good Wis.

I want to know what advantages 'Arcanist' have on melee?
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post Jan 7 2018, 17:36
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QUOTE(paruri @ Jan 7 2018, 16:27) *

I want to know what advantages 'Arcanist' have on melee?

Literally nothing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Shadowdancer > Fleet > Negation >= Arcanist

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post Jan 7 2018, 17:48
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 7 2018, 16:36) *

Literally nothing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Higher pxp0 so all rolls are higher (for example gauntlets peerless adb 10.22, gauntlets peerless arcanist adb 10.32).

I would still get Shadowdancer over Arcanist, but it's probably closer to Fleet than to Negation.
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post Jan 7 2018, 17:56
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 7 2018, 23:36) *

Literally nothing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Shadowdancer > Fleet > Negation >= Arcanist

Shadowdancer seems too OP for shade imo. It's like every good thing ever for shade put together. I mean slaughter power trades off defense to go full offense but as far as I see, shadowdancer has no drawbacks at all. Also for some reason I read arcanist as arsonist
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post Jan 7 2018, 18:05
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QUOTE(paruri @ Jan 7 2018, 07:27) *

I want to know what advantages 'Arcanist' have on melee?


In DW and forged heavily, it's a great set to scan monsters.
You're knocking out one monster at a time (quickly by the way), and on my set, I'd have to put up effort to die.
Of course you can do that with any armor in DW.
It's just my personal set is nearly max forged and a tank.

I used Arcanist in DW exclusively for several months when I first started.
I still like it, but that DW thing of one monster at a time is frustrating, no matter how quickly you knock them out.

The biggest benefit on my side was transitioning to Holy Mage.
It was seamless... I breezed through prof building with zero glass cannon effect.
And this was before the prof changes of 0.85
My Mage Profs were literally zero when I started.

I still throw a staff on the set and fool around occasionally for giggles.
The kills are much slower, but the glass cannon effect is eliminated.

Edit and After thought: I am not recommending it as a first set.
With mass personal experience, it is a giggles 3rd tier set when you can pick the pieces up cheaply.

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post Jan 7 2018, 18:07
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jan 7 2018, 16:56) *

Shadowdancer seems too OP for shade imo. It's like every good thing ever for shade put together. I mean slaughter power trades off defense to go full offense but as far as I see, shadowdancer has no drawbacks at all. Also for some reason I read arcanist as arsonist

Yes, Shadowdancer is literally Fleet with Crit on top (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Anyway i would use the Shade Armor of the Arsonist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 7 2018, 23:11
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