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Dec 17 2017, 16:30
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Noni
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QUOTE(GnHQ @ Dec 17 2017, 14:04)  Got a legendary drop today, any clue to what it might be worth? Legendary Charged Phase Cap of FreyrQuite valuable. Because of low level, 1-3m can be possible even with that low EDB stat. I mean, it's charged!
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Dec 18 2017, 21:22
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piyin
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 18 2017, 21:19)  [ alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/148329510/eca0ace00bgodlike parry, wrong PAB. too bad, otherwise it would've been an endgame upgrade. expected value? I will say at least 2... (deleted). Because even with the wrong PABS it is (deleted). Lucky Y... (deleted).
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Dec 18 2017, 21:35
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(piyin @ Dec 18 2017, 20:22)  I will say at least 2...
You really think so? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) The Agi alone would prevent that would want it. I still remember how hard it was to get rid of my other shield with the wrong PAB. Block just dont cover up this feeling. At least not for me, so you could be right about the price. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Dec 18 2017, 21:39
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(piyin @ Dec 18 2017, 20:22)  I will say at least 2... (deleted).
Because even with the wrong PABS it is (deleted).
Lucky Y... (deleted).
i'm not even sure i want to know what you're ranting about this time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Dec 18 2017, 20:37)  300k-1M
so not bad, but better to keep it if my stats aren't affected too much, i guess...
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Dec 18 2017, 21:47
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lololo16
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 18 2017, 16:19)  [ alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/148329510/eca0ace00bgodlike parry, wrong PAB. too bad, otherwise it would've been an endgame upgrade. expected value? I don't know about its true value, but I'm sure people would pay at least 2m if you are patient
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Dec 18 2017, 21:47
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piyin
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Dec 18 2017, 21:35)  You really think so? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) The Agi alone would prevent that would want it. I still remember how hard it was to get rid of my other shield with the wrong PAB. Block just dont cover up this feeling. At least not for me, so you could be right about the price. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Well, for me it is true the lack of STR is an issue, BUT! the block is so good that the stats only add value as a "vanilla Block/Evade/Parry" Shield (Because, at least that what the wiki says, STR doesnt have a real use in the BEP section). Im not forgetting it is a force shield (so high InterF and Burden), but if a level 300 1H (or lower) can pay for it it will be a walk with no hits until level 500 (or until a best shield shows). So for me it is valued that much as a base. Also, how many Force shields with almost perfect block have you seen lately (aside peerless)? Peace.
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Dec 18 2017, 21:56
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(piyin @ Dec 18 2017, 20:47)  Also, how many Force shields with almost perfect block have you seen lately (aside peerless)?
True. But i would never even use a Peerl shield with the wrong PAB. The chance i would ever get an (neary) equal one with the correct PAB would be near zero and i just couldnt take the pain of that.
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Dec 18 2017, 22:00
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piyin
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Dec 18 2017, 21:56)  True. But i would never even use a Peerl shield with the wrong PAB. The chance i would ever get an (neary) equal one with the correct PAB would be near zero and i just couldnt take the pain of that.
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Dec 18 2017, 22:32
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Uncle Stu
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Sure. But when it comes with painfull lacks. I couldnt stand it.
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Dec 18 2017, 23:10
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Cryosite
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 18 2017, 11:19)  [ alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/148329510/eca0ace00bgodlike parry, wrong PAB. too bad, otherwise it would've been an endgame upgrade. expected value? I feel like maybe I'm probably either the target audience or close to it for that shield. I currently wear this. I own as possible future shields to wear: This and this.So, in my situation, buying your shield would mean I could move into a much better shield sooner. I'd lose 40 strength out of 850, gain some useless AGI which would let me shift some points out of it and back into STR. Maybe 2 points. Maybe only 1. Maybe less than 1. The gains of about 30-ish DEX and END would be a big upgrade overall though, so very likely worth it for the PABs even if not ideal. I'd probably sell off the two shields I have waiting, and try to recoup a little of their purchase prices. So, overall, I'm looking at a price of 1.5m credits/1.5k soul shards happening several levels sooner, but also getting an end-game block% which is probably well worth the change of plans. I'd also be inclined to upgrade it, get it IW10'd, and so on. It would mean that I'd need to be really picky after equipping it to get anything that is an upgrade. I doubt I'd bother with either a 99% or even a 100% block upgrade unless the shield also came with perfect PABs. Not after investing that much into that shield. So, for someone like me, it looks like a very valuable shield, even if there are quite a lot of expenses that will come with it above and beyond the purchase price. If I could get it for 300k, I'd consider it an amazing deal. I'm not really sure what my upper limit would be on it at the moment, but if I get some sales I'm working on completed, I'd be pretty interested in seeing that shield in auction. The opinions of the others on the PABs are... strangely emotional rather than factual/helpful.
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Dec 18 2017, 23:20
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Dec 18 2017, 22:10)  The opinions of the others on the PABs are... strangely emotional rather than factual/helpful.
Serious opinion on 1H shield PABs: SDE > SDA >= DEA The shield of Scremaz is quite good anyway.
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Dec 18 2017, 23:22
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piyin
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 18 2017, 23:20)  Serious opinion on 1H shield PABs: SDE > SDA >= DEA The shield of Scremaz is quite good anyway.
Good enought to be sold for more than 300k? or more?
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Dec 18 2017, 23:36
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lazyNPC
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QUOTE(piyin @ Dec 18 2017, 22:22)  Good enought to be sold for more than 300k? or more?
Around there, if auctioned the price could vary wildly, from quite lower to quite higher.
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Dec 18 2017, 23:45
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Cryosite
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QUOTE(piyin @ Dec 18 2017, 13:22)  Good enought to be sold for more than 300k? or more?
I have 6k ADB from all sources. Losing 60 STR works out to about 70 less ADB on my character sheet. So slightly more than 1%. I see most end-game players posting in "latest accomplishment" when they pass 10k adb, so a loss of 80 STR from a gear-level 500 shield still is probably close to about 1% of the damage. I don't think that's enough to fret over. The difference between three good PABs and two good PABs translates to about 1% loss of usefulness. I'd weight that loss a bit more if the missing useful stat was DEX, honestly, due to DEX contributing to parry. Missing STR or END are roughly equal in importance. So I'd weight the four possible stats as: STR = 1% DEX = 2% END = 1% AGI = 0%. So: SDE = 4% SDA = 3% DEA = 3% SEA = 2% And, actually, those numbers probably align well with BLK percentile. So, perfect peerless shield would be 104% (100% BLK and SDE). Scremaz's shield is 98% BLK+3% PABS, or 101%. That's how far from the perfect shield it is, and therefore worth quite a bit. Zircon prefix is pretty nice. You could assign a % value to that, contrasted with various other possible prefixes. Agile prefix, for example, I'd consider to be around a -2%. Onyx might be slightly more attractive to me than Zircon. And so on. Whatever the best possible prefix is would add to that 104% peerless hypothetical shield. Whatever zircon is on that list adds to the 101% for Scremaz's shield. So, unless you value BLK% much less and PABs much higher relative to it, that's how I assess the shield. Though if you're valuing a shield like that, I question why you're playing 1h and are not instead playing DW or something. The shield is literally the centerpiece of the build.
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Dec 19 2017, 04:51
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Ea-Moon
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Dec 19 2017, 07:06
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piyin
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QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ Dec 19 2017, 04:51)  1.- 500k+ 2.- 250k+ But suggest you to await for more opinions
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Dec 19 2017, 11:28
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Null2Null
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QUOTE(piyin @ Dec 19 2017, 13:06)  1.- 500k+ 2.- 250k+
But suggest you to await for more opinions
i do nooooooooot agree (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 1. this might be 1.5M up, adb is larger than the top of mag. level one 2.600k up. Maybe someone freak who played 2H or niten would like this piece (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by cbn: Dec 19 2017, 11:29
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