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Sep 6 2017, 00:07
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 5 2017, 18:13)  You should mention it beforehand, because when one is talkng about ADB range, by default it's always in the Legendary range, even if it's a Mag. When I say "11% ADB" for a Mag, it means it's at 11% in the Legendary range, which is very high for a Mag.
Oh, I didn t know that. Sorry (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 5 2017, 19:01)  you guys are a bit too percentilescript-depending. logic calls that if a mag has 92% ADB, it cannot be referred to L range. but yep, mentioning wouldn't have hurt. i already told you once, iirc. this logic works well for ADB (since its scaling factor is so low), and quite bad for other stats for which scaling factor is quite high (like crit or block). a more correct (and universal) method would be:
STEP 1: finding the base stat:
Wiki formula: Scaled Stat = (1 + level / level_factor) * base_stat
-> base_stat = Scaled Stat / (1 + level / (level_factor))
(I got the level_factor from the wiki also)
STEP 2: directly finding the percentile range:
percentile = (your roll - min_range) / (max_range - min_range)
Yeah, you mentioned something like this in the experts thread when I got a result of something like 6000% block, but I didn't really understand what you meant when you explained step 2. Now that you've posted the formula I understand it. I'll use that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Percentile (of leg slaughter range) = (45.59353 - 42.8) / (51.33 - 42.8) = 2.79393 / 8.53 = 0.3275etc = 32% ADB? Also, if my mag rapier had not been slaughter, would I measure it against the leg slaughter range still? Or the non-slaughter range? Same goes for any suffix I guess... do I always measure the (blah) stat against the maximum possible range? Aaaand lastly back to my original question: what is a no-prefix mag of slaughter 32% ADB rapier worth? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) EDIT: I just noticed an error with the base stat formula. It's missing a set of brackets. Shouldn't it be: base_stat = Scaled Stat / ( (1 + level ) / (level_factor))? So new maths: base_stat = 1014 / ((1 + 354) / (50 / 3)) = 47.605633802816 Percentile = (47.605633802816 - 42.8) / (51.33 - 42.8) = 4.805633802816 / 8.53 = 0.5633802816900 = 56% ADB? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Is this right? This post has been edited by The Original Zeo: Sep 6 2017, 00:17
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Sep 6 2017, 00:13
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Sep 6 2017, 00:07)  Also, if my mag rapier had not been slaughter, would I measure it against the leg slaughter range still? Or the non-slaughter range?
Same goes for any suffix I guess... do I always measure the (blah) stat against the maximum possible range?
every suffix has to be compared with the correspective one. QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Sep 6 2017, 00:07)  Aaaand lastly back to my original question: what is a no-prefix mag of slaughter 32% ADB rapier worth? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) no prefix? gift for a low-level, given the ADB.
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Sep 6 2017, 15:21
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tamiroff
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May I please get a Price Check for this item: Exquisite Jade Phase Pants of Fenrir (lvl. 269). Thank you very much.
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Sep 6 2017, 15:25
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(tamiroff @ Sep 6 2017, 15:21)  May I please get a Price Check for this item: Exquisite Jade Phase Pants of Fenrir (lvl. 269). Thank you very much. bazaar or self-use until you find something better, if that's your style.
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Sep 6 2017, 15:44
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 6 2017, 00:13)  every suffix has to be compared with the correspective one. no prefix? gift for a low-level, given the ADB.
To be fair, I don't mind prefixless weapons, because it's still possible to reach void strike + 2 element strikes thanks to infusions. But oh well, so many people forget about infusions... just as much as they forget about featherweight shards.
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Sep 6 2017, 16:37
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 6 2017, 15:44)  To be fair, I don't mind prefixless weapons, because it's still possible to reach void strike + 2 element strikes thanks to infusions.
hmm... fair enough: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/139465757/450ed0c35flast time i checked, only one strike was possible.
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Sep 6 2017, 17:12
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friggo
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 6 2017, 17:37)  last time i checked, only one strike was possible.
I believe he means the extra strike you get from infusions. For example, shocking rapier + infusion of frost: 
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Sep 6 2017, 18:37
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(friggo @ Sep 6 2017, 17:12)  I believe he means the extra strike you get from infusions. For example, shocking rapier + infusion of frost:  yes, yes, i checked myself. guess i remembered wrong.
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Sep 7 2017, 09:40
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ALL_MIGHT
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Sep 7 2017, 09:42
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friggo
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 7 2017, 10:40)  Salvage it. Ain't nobody looking for earth-walker (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Sep 7 2017, 09:57
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 7 2017, 09:40)  You really gotta learn what has some worth and what is worthless. Been quite a few times you're asking a price check on things that no one will ever want. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Sep 7 2017, 10:34
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ALL_MIGHT
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 7 2017, 13:27)  You really gotta learn what has some worth and what is worthless. Been quite a few times you're asking a price check on things that no one will ever want. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Is there a wiki page/ forum thread which explain price structure , like which are of worth? Could you Please send me link Thanks (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Sep 7 2017, 10:37
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CPUAMD
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 7 2017, 17:34)  Is there a wiki page/ forum thread which explain price structure , like which are of worth? Could you Please send me link Thanks (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) CODE 1h Rapiers are best. Legendary is required, except for low level rapiers. Clubs and Axes must be Slaughter, and they must be either under level 350 or Ethereal. Melee weapons without prefixes or with useless suffixes (Vampire, Illithid, Banshee) are unauctionable. Most wakizashis and shortswords are unlikely to auction unless Ethereal, Hallowed, or Demonic.
2h Legendary is required. 2h weapons must be Slaughter, and they must be either under level 400, or Ethereal, or Katana. Melee weapons with useless suffixes (Vampire, Illithid, Banshee) are unauctionable.
Staff Most staffs must have good prefix, matching type, and good suffix. Staffs over level 400 must be Legendary or they most likely won't get minimum bid.
Shield Must be Legendary, or under level 350. Bucklers must be Barrier or Battlecaster, or they won't get minimum bid. Kite shields won't get minimum bid past level 400.
Cloth Cloth must be Phase or have elemental/holy/dark proficiency suffix, or it is unauctionable. The only Magnificent cloth allowed is (Radiant Phase + Under level 450), or (Good prefix + Under level 400 + 3 PAB). High level plain-prefixed cloth with very low EDB or proficiency won't get minimum bid.
Light Legendary and lower Leather: Too unlikely to get minimum bid unless Reinforced Protection Shade Negation needs to be Legendary and Savage, otherwise it's very unlikely to get minimum bid Shade Fleet needs to be under level 400, or it needs a good prefix (Savage, Agile) Magnificent Shade is very unlikely to get minimum bid
Heavy Legendary and lower Plate: Too unlikely to get minimum bid unless Shielding of Protection Magnificent Power needs to be under level 330, or it needs to be (Slaughter or Savage) and under 450. Power Protection and Warding over level 400 likely will not sell unless it's also Savage or has extremely high ADB. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4507093His advice will help.
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Sep 7 2017, 10:38
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 7 2017, 09:57)  You really gotta learn what has some worth and what is worthless. Been quite a few times you're asking a price check on things that no one will ever want. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) everyone started this way. then, one starts to note that certain suffixes are worthless, certain prefixes too, certain matches are quite sought after... and so on.
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Sep 7 2017, 13:17
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(Goldage @ Sep 7 2017, 18:07)  1h Rapiers are best. Legendary is required, except for low level rapiers. Clubs and Axes must be Slaughter, and they must be either under level 350 or Ethereal. Melee weapons without prefixes or with useless suffixes (Vampire, Illithid, Banshee) are unauctionable. Most wakizashis and shortswords are unlikely to auction unless Ethereal, Hallowed, or Demonic. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4507093His advice will help. Price check please: Legendary Etheral Axe of Slaughter: Lv 354 531/531 Condition Bleeding Wound 22.2% - 7 turns / 20% DOT 1544 Void Damage Void Strike Attack Accuracy 12.55% Attack Crit Rate 5.44% Strength 68.76 Dexterity 41.59 Agility 32.42 ADBbase = Scaled Stat / (1 + level / (level_factor)) ADBbase = 1544 / (1 + 354 / (50/3)) ADBbase = 69.424460431654 ADB% = (ADBbase - min_range) / (max_range - min_range) ADB% = (69.42 - 67.83) / (75.92 - 67.83) ADB% = 19.65% Is this ADB% correct? And is this axe worth anything? Thank you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sep 7 2017, 13:26
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(The Original Zeo @ Sep 7 2017, 13:17)  Is this ADB% correct? And is this axe worth anything?
it's correct but i doubt it's worth too much
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Sep 7 2017, 13:30
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WeebLife
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 7 2017, 20:56)  it's correct but i doubt it's worth too much
Damn. So my noodly appendage didn't pay off, then (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Sep 7 2017, 23:42
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Draw99Gray
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Sep 7 2017, 23:47
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Draw99Gray @ Sep 7 2017, 23:42)  Shielding. Well the level is okay. I would say maybe 100-200k if you are lucky. But i would not bet on that.
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Sep 7 2017, 23:48
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Draw99Gray @ Sep 7 2017, 23:42)  Sellable, ALL_MIGHT bought a similar one for 300k not too long ago. I wouldn't expect much more than 100k or 150k though.
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