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May 26 2017, 12:37
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CPUAMD
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ May 26 2017, 16:48)  It's not that important on an offhand weapon.
Even so, few people will buy weapons with low ADB.
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May 26 2017, 13:58
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Scremaz
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Because people are under the wrong assumption that adb is all and can do all. I'm pretty sure that a high crit build may be as effective as well. Surely, the fact of finding only adb percentiles doesn't help.
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May 26 2017, 14:55
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 26 2017, 13:58)  Because people are under the wrong assumption that adb is all and can do all. I'm pretty sure that a high crit build may be as effective as well. Surely, the fact of finding only adb percentiles doesn't help.
Well if you forge, that does quite a lot. Also, every 1h weapon different from an axe, club or rapier of slaughter is quite cheap to find with 3 almost maxed stats. Rapier of Balance with 91% ADB, 91% Parry and 81% Crit Chance? 50k in auction Ethereal Waki of Balance with 90% ADB, 90% Parry and 75~%ish Crit Chance? Found in bazaar (some time ago was 1m easily btw) Waki of Nimble with 90% ADB and 90% Parry? 20k in a shop. And then there is people that ask 1.5m for a rapier of balance with trash crit and parry (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 26 2017, 19:20
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ May 26 2017, 14:55)  Waki of Nimble with 90% ADB and 90% Parry? 20k in a shop.
ethereal? QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ May 26 2017, 14:55)  And then there is people that ask 1.5m for a rapier of balance with trash crit and parry (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) well, it's not a crime to ask whatever you feel like. on the other hand, if you're deliberately reselling, well...
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May 26 2017, 19:45
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ May 26 2017, 19:43)  nah, tempestuous, but let's be honest, it doesn't really matter much (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) if you have a high-evade shade build, yep. at ~60% evade, 3 BUR is enough to make you lose a 1%. possibly even a bit more. and i'm too lazy to shard it everytime (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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May 26 2017, 20:03
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 26 2017, 19:45)  if you have a high-evade shade build, yep. at ~60% evade, 3 BUR is enough to make you lose a 1%. possibly even a bit more. and i'm too lazy to shard it everytime (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) If only evade boosted damage directly (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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May 26 2017, 20:24
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ May 26 2017, 20:03)  If only evade boosted damage directly (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) yep, something like being able to throw a slash while dodging would be really nice...
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May 26 2017, 21:46
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(jackalo @ May 26 2017, 21:34)  pretty decent rolls but i'm not sure if it is a desirable type of staff. Legendary Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Destructiondoes it hold any value? surely it's matching. should be the second best type of wind mage overall, possibly the best for low-mid difficulties. it won't fetch the same price of a willow correspective, but if rolls are good enough still a decent price. at least, if i remember it correctly...
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May 26 2017, 21:52
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 26 2017, 21:46)  it won't fetch the same price of a willow correspective, but if rolls are good enough still a decent price. at least, if i remember it correctly...
I would honestly be very interested in knowing how different is redwood vs willow at high level. (hoping sssss2 will do one of his very informative post with the data gathered with his recent willow elec build). If the different is pretty big I doubt rich wind mages will ever be interested in a redwood, even with superb rolls like jackalo's one.
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May 26 2017, 21:54
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Noni
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ May 26 2017, 21:52)  I would honestly be very interested in knowing how different is redwood vs willow at high level. (hoping sssss2 will do one of his very informative post with the data gathered with his recent willow elec build).
If the different is pretty big I doubt rich wind mages will ever be interested in a redwood, even with superb rolls like jackalo's one.
It should work at least as well as a very good (my) LARD. And that works.
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May 26 2017, 21:56
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ May 26 2017, 21:52)  I would honestly be very interested in knowing how different is redwood vs willow at high level. (hoping sssss2 will do one of his very informative post with the data gathered with his recent willow elec build).
If the different is pretty big I doubt rich wind mages will ever be interested in a redwood, even with superb rolls like jackalo's one.
yep, sure. but even if they are quite on par, market is still biased towards willow. pretty biased. even if outstanding, this will hinder its value quite a lot imo. QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 26 2017, 21:54)  It should work at least as well as a very good (my) LARD. And that works.
that's because the lack of innate counter-resist is somehow balanced by the higher elemental prof, isn't it?
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May 26 2017, 22:05
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Noni
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 26 2017, 21:56)  yep, sure. but even if they are quite on par, market is still biased towards willow. pretty biased. even if outstanding, this will hinder its value quite a lot imo. that's because the lack of innate counter-resist is somehow balanced by the higher elemental prof, isn't it?
That's the idea, yes. A good wind Redwood can be a strong staff. 15m strong.
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May 26 2017, 22:26
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jackalo
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 26 2017, 14:05)  That's the idea, yes. A good wind Redwood can be a strong staff. 15m strong.
thats a good chunk of change, maybe i'll send it to super for next week. i never plan on maging so no use for me to hang onto it.
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May 26 2017, 22:43
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Slobber
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don't expect a sum that high. a value of an item isn't determined by "how good" it is but rather by "how much" it is desired. they're very different things.
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May 26 2017, 22:44
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Noni
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QUOTE(jackalo @ May 26 2017, 22:26)  thats a good chunk of change, maybe i'll send it to super for next week. i never plan on maging so no use for me to hang onto it.
You should send it to auction. But I am affraid that you won't get that much. As said, the market doesn't like Wind Redwood. Stupid, but that's the facts right now. Totally worth 15m, totally not gonna get it.
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May 26 2017, 22:49
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jackalo
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i dont, expect somewhere between 7-10mill. still a good chunk of change
This post has been edited by jackalo: May 26 2017, 22:50
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May 26 2017, 22:53
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(Slobber @ May 26 2017, 22:43)  don't expect a sum that high. a value of an item isn't determined by "how good" it is but rather by "how much" it is desired. they're very different things.
you, sir, are a wise person.
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