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Apr 10 2017, 13:57
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Apr 10 2017, 13:38)  I had this rapier that sucked because no STR and no prefix, but since I had to grind something for the fruits, accidentally a very nice IW came at the first try seems legit. QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Apr 10 2017, 13:38)  is it worth something now? Or maybe as a gift?
heh, no clue. more as a gift than as a source of profit, and still...
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Apr 10 2017, 16:35
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Noni
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 10 2017, 11:14)  1. fun goods caused by the prefix =>salvage it ADB is really high though. maybe giving a shot at an auction? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) those you need the most. otherwise, cloth - hoping for HG material. but personally i'd sell them... Did you notice: battlecaster is for 1h mage, and ethereal is not suitable for 1h mage? As a regular rapier, I think it won't sell because balance is cheap and better...
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Apr 10 2017, 17:11
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 10 2017, 16:35)  Did you notice: battlecaster is for 1h mage, and ethereal is not suitable for 1h mage? As a regular rapier, I think it won't sell because balance is cheap and better...
i thought about some 1H starter with mana management issues and/or sort of fixation. but yep, that's quite the rare occurrence
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Apr 10 2017, 21:01
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Kinights
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Apr 10 2017, 15:23)  Looking to try to get a news wep, currently have http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=67620d9fb6, how much would it cost +/- to buy a wep stronger than this one, assuming I could find one When I was looking for my weapon upgrade, I checked WTS for the normal shops and looked at the previous weeks finished auctions as well, seeing how much everything went for and if I should or not invest in an item. No matter if you choose buying from a normal shop or go for auctions(which might be your best option of finding a cheap one) and there's more than one option that you are interested in, I'd say to consider how much forging you'd need to do on the cheapest staff in comparison with the most expensive one to reach similar results. For example, if the cheapest has 800 MDB scaled to your level and the expensive one has 850+, you should consider how many Bindings of Destruction and HGW you'd spend to reach 850+ MDB on the cheapest staff, so between paying 150k for the cheap one and 500k+ for the expensive one would need some of your own inputs, like if your need that much increase in MDB, if you would do some meaningful forging as your endgame weapon, if you really need an upgrade at all and so on. If you don't use SmartSearch yet, I'd recommend installing it for easier browsing in WTS/WTB. Btw, I'm not a mage, so my numbers might be unreasonable, but at least that's how I looked around for my upgrades.
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Apr 10 2017, 21:28
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AnonDarkMage7
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Apr 10 2017, 21:01)  When I was looking for my weapon upgrade, I checked WTS for the normal shops and looked at the previous weeks finished auctions as well, seeing how much everything went for and if I should or not invest in an item.
No matter if you choose buying from a normal shop or go for auctions(which might be your best option of finding a cheap one) and there's more than one option that you are interested in, I'd say to consider how much forging you'd need to do on the cheapest staff in comparison with the most expensive one to reach similar results.
For example, if the cheapest has 800 MDB scaled to your level and the expensive one has 850+, you should consider how many Bindings of Destruction and HGW you'd spend to reach 850+ MDB on the cheapest staff, so between paying 150k for the cheap one and 500k+ for the expensive one would need some of your own inputs, like if your need that much increase in MDB, if you would do some meaningful forging as your endgame weapon, if you really need an upgrade at all and so on.
If you don't use SmartSearch yet, I'd recommend installing it for easier browsing in WTS/WTB.
Btw, I'm not a mage, so my numbers might be unreasonable, but at least that's how I looked around for my upgrades.
But couldn't I also just buy the expensive one then dump what I would have spent on the cheap one to play catch up onto the expensive one? Though, besides that point, bindings of destruction are around 80k a piece according to smart search so a new wep would have to be ridiculously expensive to justify upgrading a lower level one =/. Used Smart search and staffs seem to be in the low to mid millions, but still a big range to go off by.
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Apr 10 2017, 21:44
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Kinights
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Apr 10 2017, 16:28)  But couldn't I also just buy the expensive one then dump what I would have spent on the cheap one to play catch up onto the expensive one? Though, besides that point, bindings of destruction are around 80k a piece according to smart search so a new wep would have to be ridiculously expensive to justify upgrading a lower level one =/. Used Smart search and staffs seem to be in the low to mid millions, but still a big range to go off by.
Just wanted to point out that if a cheap one with low MDB pops out in WTS for 100~200k, it might not be worth investing if you have to spend 400k in forging to reach the same level of another staff that was going for 500k on an auction for example. I guess a good LDWD is similar to a good Legendary Rapier going for 1M+ in WTS, so your best hope of getting a good cheap one would be on the auctions, where a decent staff might be overshadowed by a Peerless or close to LMax rolls one, so you can just bid on it around the last day to not drag too much attention. It isn't possible to do auction sniping in Super's or Kedama's auctions btw, so there's a fair chance of getting what you bid for without having to worry about your connection speed on anything like that.
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Apr 10 2017, 22:35
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Noni
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Apr 10 2017, 21:44) 
I guess a good LDWD is similar to a good Legendary Rapier going for 1M+ in WTS, so your best hope of getting a good cheap one would be on the auctions, where a decent staff might be overshadowed by a Peerless or close to LMax rolls one, so you can just bid on it around the last day to not drag too much attention.
are you sure about that? A lot of rich players are playing mage, and dark mage staffs can be very very expensive. Nog LHOH expensive, but still 20+m for a good one.
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Apr 10 2017, 22:38
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Apr 10 2017, 21:44)  It isn't possible to do auction sniping in Super's or Kedama's auctions
erm... not wanting to spoil your fun, but since when?
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Apr 10 2017, 22:38
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AnonDarkMage7
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Not really looking for an end game staff yet, just one that's a noticeable improvement over my current one. My current one is at -61% MDB and -31% EDB....
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Apr 10 2017, 22:46
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Kinights
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 10 2017, 17:35)  are you sure about that? A lot of rich players are playing mage, and dark mage staffs can be very very expensive. Nog LHOH expensive, but still 20+m for a good one.
Yeah, I did say in the first post that I'm not a mage, so I have no idea about the prices. Just wanted to share the way I used to replace my main weapon. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 10 2017, 17:38)  erm... not wanting to spoil your fun, but since when?
Well, the concept of auction sniping is to bid on the last seconds before the auction ends. Kedama's auction extends an items bidding period if someone bids within then last 10 minutes, so if someone bids at 12:59, the item bidding will extend to 13:09. Same for Super's auction, using a 15 minute extended period in case someone bids during the last 15 minutes, with both auctions giving a fair chance to competitors until everyone backs off and only one winner is left with the highest bid.
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Apr 10 2017, 22:57
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Apr 10 2017, 22:46)  Well, the concept of auction sniping is to bid on the last seconds before the auction ends.
Kedama's auction extends an items bidding period if someone bids within then last 10 minutes, so if someone bids at 12:59, the item bidding will extend to 13:09.
Same for Super's auction, using a 15 minute extended period in case someone bids during the last 15 minutes, with both auctions giving a fair chance to competitors until everyone backs off and only one winner is left with the highest bid.
a "fair" chance. until that's completely granted, you won't remove auction sniping (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) those are only (useful) deterrents. but not remedies. as i see it, if you approach an auction relying only on those, well... good luck. you'll need it. if you want to be sure to win an item your presence near the end of the auction (or the presence of a buddy of yours) is still needed. provided your budget is still high enough, of course. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Apr 10 2017, 23:00
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Apr 10 2017, 23:07
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Kinights
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 10 2017, 17:57)  a "fair" chance. until that's completely granted, you won't remove auction sniping (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) those are only (useful) deterrents. but not remedies. as i see it, if you approach an auction relying only on those, well... good luck. you'll need it. if you want to be sure to win an item your presence near the end of the auction (or the presence of a buddy of yours) is still needed. provided your budget is still high enough, of course. Well, of course presence at the end of the auctions is needed to be sure you will win an item. The thing is no one can use scripts or programs to bid at the last milisecond and get the item you wanted without giving you a chance to bid back, like many other auctions that allow such auction sniping in games do nowadays. If someone tries to bid at the last minute, you still have 10 or 15 minutes to decide if you want to keep on or back off, and Super even has a proxy bidding system in case you really want an item and can't be present at the end of the auction, so it's quite fair imo. This post has been edited by Kinights: Apr 10 2017, 23:09
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Apr 10 2017, 23:24
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Null2Null
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Apr 11 2017, 05:07)  Well, of course presence at the end of the auctions is needed to be sure you will win an item.
The thing is no one can use scripts or programs to bid at the last milisecond and get the item you wanted without giving you a chance to bid back, like many other auctions that allow such auction sniping in games do nowadays.
If someone tries to bid at the last minute, you still have 10 or 15 minutes to decide if you want to keep on or back off, and Super even has a proxy bidding system in case you really want an item and can't be present at the end of the auction, so it's quite fair imo.
errrr u could look at the top of forum, there r some links but the toooooooo small font size. go searching that bro "Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction" https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?act=S...+of+Destructionthe result here u r, go check it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Apr 11 2017, 17:26
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shittingass
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Apr 11 2017, 17:54
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Noni
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QUOTE(shittingass @ Apr 11 2017, 17:26)  yes, because of low level. Good be a nice item to grind elemental proficiency with!
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Apr 12 2017, 00:03
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Rhydin
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QUOTE(Orion-Guardian @ Apr 11 2017, 23:34)  http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6453a85c0bSo, I know 2H or Niten isn't really meta right now, but I am still wondering if this has some worth (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Slaughter suffix - check Ethereal prefix - check Decent Level - check Auctionable for sure, though you shouldn't expect too much from it, for the reasons you already mentioned.
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Apr 12 2017, 00:05
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(Rhydin @ Apr 12 2017, 00:03)  Slaughter suffix - check Ethereal prefix - check Decent Level - check
Auctionable for sure, though you shouldn't expect too much from it, for the reasons you already mentioned.
ethereal katanas still tend to have a bit of a market. i'd give a shot at an auction.
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