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post Apr 29 2021, 03:17
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Apr 28 2021, 14:52) *

Yea. yea ... EDB is not everything there is, you know ...

...

I knew something about that, but market is extraordinary sometimes.

for instance
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[Clo27] Legendary Cobalt Phase Robe of Mjolnir (500, Elec EDB 89%) (seller: 高垣 楓) T、z 750k #231; winning for 13.8h / 29.5h; -0.4%
[Clo28] Legendary Cobalt Phase Pants of Mjolnir (401, Elec EDB 77%) (seller: what_is_name) PrincessYukino 900k #270 Extend to 14:11; winning for 16.2h / 34.0h; -0.4%
sometimes bidder gave mad price, so I should say, 1000k is prossible, but probably much lower.

QUOTE(uoparaku @ Apr 29 2021, 02:40) *

What can I sell a level 97 superior demonic club of balance for?

about 200c, it's better ask Bazaar for accuracy price.

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post Apr 29 2021, 14:10
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hi,

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/270854176/7b7699e1c4
My script tells me this item worth 12k for salvage, any chance to be sold?
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post Apr 29 2021, 16:59
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QUOTE(Nyachin @ Apr 29 2021, 07:10) *

hi,

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/270854176/7b7699e1c4
My script tells me this item worth 12k for salvage, any chance to be sold?



No chance, salvage it to get the High-Grade Cloth.

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post Apr 29 2021, 22:30
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QUOTE(sharmy @ Apr 29 2021, 02:17) *

I knew something about that, but market is extraordinary sometimes.

for instance

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Yep. Market can be crazy.

That's why, when evaluating prices, I prefer to stay near the bottomline (if the usual range variance is not extremely large), or at least cutoff exceptional outliers and stay close to the median.

Because a seller is bound to be highly disappointed when a prospected high gain is not realized in the auction (which is the most probable event in this scenario); while he will be much more happy when a usually low gain gets improbably lucky (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Apr 30 2021, 05:03
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Apr 29 2021, 22:30) *

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Because a seller is bound to be highly disappointed when a prospected high gain is not realized in the auction (which is the most probable event in this scenario); .....

I usually try to estimate the full range (so it's usually a large range). This is an interesting viewpoint, I never thought about this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Apr 30 2021, 06:45
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QUOTE(sharmy @ Apr 30 2021, 00:03) *

I usually try to estimate the full range (so it's usually a large range).

I like to do the same myself in order to avoid scams with private offers
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post Apr 30 2021, 09:32
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Hi there,

Those are my two first legendary drops. Are they worth something ?

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/270639401/71d62feec9
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/270697666/164765f9c0

Thanks for the help !

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post Apr 30 2021, 09:44
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QUOTE(h1land @ Apr 30 2021, 09:32) *

Hi there,

Those are my two first legendary drops. Are they worth something ?

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/270639401/71d62feec9
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/270697666/164765f9c0

Thanks for the help !

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Below Lv.300 almost all Legendary can sell.
It's hard to predict price because of insufficient sample

If they are ~Lv.350, the Phase shall be 100-500k while the Power shall be 50-100k
Since their level is low, I thought the Power worth more and the Phase worth less

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post Apr 30 2021, 09:56
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QUOTE(sharmy @ Apr 30 2021, 09:44) *

Below Lv.300 almost all Legendary can sell.
It's hard to predict price because of insufficient sample

If they are ~Lv.350, the Phase shall be 100-500k while the Power shall be 50-100k
Since their level is low, I thought the Power worth more and the Phase worth less


Thanks for answering very quickly. Should I submit them to auction. Or just create a shop ?
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post Apr 30 2021, 10:16
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QUOTE(h1land @ Apr 30 2021, 09:56) *

Thanks for answering very quickly. Should I submit them to auction. Or just create a shop ?

I would try a shop first... but it's hard to say what's the best strategy these days
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post May 2 2021, 13:19
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Hello.

I would like to sell the four legendaries I have dropped by now, for none of them are really suitable for my own play style.

A friend has given me price estimates that make sense, but I know different experts have different views sometimes. I would be very curious to see how these ones get evaluated, and especially what the reasonings are.

I understand that many suggestions here are like, "Worth auctioning..." I am more after analyses like, "Players who are at least very roughly the right level and need that piece for their armor sets would likely pay at least..."

Legendary arctic estoc of slaughter, level 210

Legendary zircon cotton cap of protection, level 257

Legendary cobalt plate greaves of dampening, level 251

Legendary jade power boots of warding, level 265

Thank you in advance for your trouble! *bow*
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post May 2 2021, 15:30
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QUOTE(Katajanmarja @ May 2 2021, 12:19) *

A friend has given me price estimates that make sense, but I know different experts have different views sometimes. I would be very curious to see how these ones get evaluated, and especially what the reasonings are.

- skip -


First, cotton is for mages, and mages only, point. Being effective as a mage requires big sums (credits & haths), and a level high enough to unlock necessary abilities (mostly between L.310 and L.380).
So very few mages below that, and (if they know what they're doing) they want some plain cotton but only with the right proficiency suffix; so NO protection/warding absolutely.
Only exception is peerlesses, not for playing but for collection.

Therefore, your legendary cotton is worth exactly 1 HGC (around 13k now), by scraping it. Sorry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
You could get maybe 20k-30k from some really desperate or unknowing lowlevel aspiring mage, or someone trying to use cotton with other styles (like dualwield); but it's a remote chance.

The legendary plate may be useful to a low level struggling with survival; but then it should be Shielding preferably. It may still sell for a tiny sum, but in general even at relatively low levels you're better off with an Exquisite Power then a plain legendary.

That makes the Power Boots the real interesting thing. I don't have looked in the stats, but at that level almost any stat is acceptable. It just change the value from one that is useful now (and will be discarded later) to one that you'll keep even in much higher levels.

It's very useful for 1H heavy, which is the style with the gretest number of players in low levels (in high levels is mage, ofcourse (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)), so bigger market.
If stats are good enough, even high level players will want to buy it, so it's said "auctionable".
If stats are below very good (say like <85% adb or so) then only low level player will be interested.
Value is highly variable, depending on all these considerations and stats.

Finally the Estoc : it can only be used for 2H style, which isn't popular at all (for good reasons, but never mind that). In theory, it's the best weapon for 2H, since it is the only 2h weapon with Penetrated Armor effect. Good adb and stats should mean good price. But the problem is to find a player keen on 2H.
If he is not low level, he will almost surely already have better weapons. So value is low, simply because it can wait in a shop for ages.

I'm not venturing prices, because at low levels the market is quite volatile and mostly unpredictable, even more then at higher levels, for fairly obvious reasons.
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post May 2 2021, 15:54
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ May 2 2021, 14:30) *
. In theory, it's the best weapon for 2H, since it is the only 2h weapon with Penetrated Armor effect.


2H doesn't have Overwhelming Strikes like 1H, plus it only has one weapon to get Overpower on unlike DW and Niten, so it's especially vulnerable to being parried - mace generally works out better in normal content for that reason. Against schoolgirls, who have lower parry, for some reason longsword outperforms estoc from what I've heard.
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post May 2 2021, 16:23
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QUOTE(Katajanmarja @ May 2 2021, 13:19) *

Hello.

I would like to sell the four legendaries I have dropped by now, for none of them are really suitable for my own play style.

A friend has given me price estimates that make sense, but I know different experts have different views sometimes. I would be very curious to see how these ones get evaluated, and especially what the reasonings are.

I understand that many suggestions here are like, "Worth auctioning..." I am more after analyses like, "Players who are at least very roughly the right level and need that piece for their armor sets would likely pay at least..."

Legendary arctic estoc of slaughter, level 210

Legendary zircon cotton cap of protection, level 257

Legendary cobalt plate greaves of dampening, level 251

Legendary jade power boots of warding, level 265

Thank you in advance for your trouble! *bow*

1. Almost unsellable, if you can find a Lv.200ish 2H player or a collector it may get 50-100k, but buyer probably never comes.
2. Unsellable, nobody want cotton of protection/warding
3. Unsellable, nobody want non-shielding plate
4. Very good gear, can be 300-1500k, probably 500k

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post May 2 2021, 17:10
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QUOTE(Nezu @ May 2 2021, 14:54) *

2H doesn't have Overwhelming Strikes like 1H, plus it only has one weapon to get Overpower on unlike DW and Niten, so it's especially vulnerable to being parried - mace generally works out better in normal content for that reason. Against schoolgirls, who have lower parry, for some reason longsword outperforms estoc from what I've heard.


I agree with all these. I did say "in theory", didn't I ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

But at levels around 200 (that he specifically asked) the difference in (absolute) adb is way lower between the three, and monster attacks are weaker. Mace is defensive, making 2h easier and more consistent with stun, but is slow. I'd still prefer Estoc, personally.
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post May 2 2021, 17:35
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QUOTE(Katajanmarja @ May 2 2021, 08:19) *

Hello.

I would like to sell the four legendaries I have dropped by now, for none of them are really suitable for my own play style.

A friend has given me price estimates that make sense, but I know different experts have different views sometimes. I would be very curious to see how these ones get evaluated, and especially what the reasonings are.

I understand that many suggestions here are like, "Worth auctioning..." I am more after analyses like, "Players who are at least very roughly the right level and need that piece for their armor sets would likely pay at least..."


all your stuff is sellable in a shop. Not everyone wants to level up fast so there's probably 2h players somewhere, legendary plate at that level is useful, better than exquisites.


the estoc 200k, the plate 25k, the cotton 20k. Prices for a shop
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post May 3 2021, 00:54
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Thank you all for your kind help! I especially appreciated how your answers also included discussing two-hand combat and mentioned special cases, such as a dual wielder experimenting with cloth armor.
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post May 3 2021, 19:13
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QUOTE(Katajanmarja @ May 2 2021, 23:54) *

Thank you all for your kind help! I especially appreciated how your answers also included discussing two-hand combat and mentioned special cases, such as a dual wielder experimenting with cloth armor.


Mind you, dual-wield with cotton is possible at low level but far from good.
Since DW doesn't have any block nor parry ability (not even the block ability besides no shield, while 2H has the Parry ability at least), all defence depends on Parry (from the weapons) and Evade (from the armor). There is also Resistance, but is somewhat less important. That means the ideal armor for DW is Leather, Shade preferably which also adds damage, and melees stats (STR, DEX, END, plus AGI).

Edit : Using cotton for DW is a bit like 1H-Mage, but far less viable (certainly not at level > 250, where 1H acquires the Block ability, further enhancing the block from shield). It's possible because you can combine the parry of two weapons, to reach high parry percentage easily, compensating a bit the lack of other protection. But there is no PDmg bonus (Phase gives only Spell dmg bonus) and stats are for maging not melee (INT, WIS, AGI); that why I'm saying is a bit like 1H-Mage, with High Parry replacing Block.



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post May 3 2021, 20:44
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QUOTE(Katajanmarja @ May 3 2021, 06:54) *

Thank you all for your kind help! I especially appreciated how your answers also included discussing two-hand combat and mentioned special cases, such as a dual wielder experimenting with cloth armor.


DW with Cloth Armor is far away from 1H with Cloth Armor, when you use Spell.
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Can I get a price check on this Legendary Frugal Cotton Robe of Warding please and thank you!~
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