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Apr 28 2009, 16:55
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Apr 28 2009, 19:32
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QUOTE(Isis86 @ Apr 28 2009, 09:19)  Shut the Fuck up. God was there you moron! Just because you believe in God doesn't mean you're Immortal. Bad shit happens to good people. It's the way things are. You are a spoiled civilian child! You thought this could never happen to you and that's you're stupid fault. You should have been prepared the moment they signed those papers that they would never come back! Then when something bad happens you pin the blame of your pain on God. You're Pathetic. Pin the blame on them if you want, but they would have died one way or another. maybe sooner maybe later but it would have happened. Pin the blame on you, you're the one who didn't anticipate it happening. Learn to deal. It's sad that you're friends died but as a military brat all I can say it happens people die good people all the time, but you have to live you're life for them now. It's also really sad that thousands of people have died from the same thing and you're just now complaining about it.
How can I blame that which I do not believe in? I blame not your God, just the falsehood which religion as a whole represents. Yes, bad shit does happen, but the whole idea that "faith" will get you thru anything is horse shit. And as for my childhood, I grew up in a poor household and now i support that household with half of what I make per month. I made no claim of immortality by believing in such falsehoods, just that misplaced faith gets you nowhere. And yes, death is inevitable, but my point is only furthered by the fact that it is religious zealots who in fact pray to the SAME FUCKING GOD, that killed them. And as for living my life for them, I do, as well as some of my other friends who died over there. HENCE WHY I RE-ENLISTED TO DEPLOY AGAIN WITH THIS UNIT. Blame me all you want, but untill you have been there, you would not understand that anticipating losing your friends is not something you do over there, for sanity reason. You would never make it thru a deployment MENTALLY if you did that. So please, little miss military brat, explain to me how being a military child means you understand what I have been thru? When you have watched 3 of your friends die on a litter you carried into the aid station, and then having to not only bag those bodies but manage to continue mission every day. Look, I'm actually trying to be half-assed civil when I say this, but fuck off. You do not, and will not know what I have been thru over there. So take your projection of your religion elsewhere because nothing can convince me of the existence of any "Divine power" or "Greater being" or any other term you can fucking think of for it at this point. Stop and think about all the vile acts past and present committed in the name of your "God", who not only do the Catholics, but the Christians, Muslims, and Jewish as well as a few more worship. 7 out of 10 wars are caused by opposition of BELIEFS, not facts, within the two religions. So please, continue to argue this with me. I can go all day Isis. I can tear religion apart like a razor to the flesh of an emo childs wrists. Why? Because it is fundamentally flawed in so many ways.
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Apr 28 2009, 20:00
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QUOTE(k9o3w @ Apr 28 2009, 12:32)  How can I blame that which I do not believe in? I blame not your God, just the falsehood which religion as a whole represents. Yes, bad shit does happen, but the whole idea that "faith" will get you thru anything is horse shit. And as for my childhood, I grew up in a poor household and now i support that household with half of what I make per month. I made no claim of immortality by believing in such falsehoods, just that misplaced faith gets you nowhere. And yes, death is inevitable, but my point is only furthered by the fact that it is religious zealots who in fact pray to the SAME FUCKING GOD, that killed them. And as for living my life for them, I do, as well as some of my other friends who died over there. HENCE WHY I RE-ENLISTED TO DEPLOY AGAIN WITH THIS UNIT. Blame me all you want, but untill you have been there, you would not understand that anticipating losing your friends is not something you do over there, for sanity reason. You would never make it thru a deployment MENTALLY if you did that. So please, little miss military brat, explain to me how being a military child means you understand what I have been thru? When you have watched 3 of your friends die on a litter you carried into the aid station, and then having to not only bag those bodies but manage to continue mission every day. Look, I'm actually trying to be half-assed civil when I say this, but fuck off. You do not, and will not know what I have been thru over there. So take your projection of your religion elsewhere because nothing can convince me of the existence of any "Divine power" or "Greater being" or any other term you can fucking think of for it at this point. Stop and think about all the vile acts past and present committed in the name of your "God", who not only do the Catholics, but the Christians, Muslims, and Jewish as well as a few more worship. 7 out of 10 wars are caused by opposition of BELIEFS, not facts, within the two religions. So please, continue to argue this with me. I can go all day Isis. I can tear religion apart like a razor to the flesh of an emo childs wrists. Why? Because it is fundamentally flawed in so many ways.
Fuck you, you say I don't know. Fuck that I know more than you'll ever know. You may have seen people die in the field, but I had to stay behind to watch the wounded slowly fade away and the faces of the deceased loved ones the instant they are handed the folded flag. The agony that a whole family in one instant is something that will forever be in my mind. I've dealt with the fact of one time thinking my own parents were dead! When I HAD to be shipped off cause it was too dangerous knowing my family had to stay. You think it's so different? Don't talk about what you don't know. And trust the only reason I know your situation is cause I have witnessed your citation. NO CHILD should have to go through what we military kids go though. You fucking military assholes think you have all the problem? We get ignored growing up in a one parent environment knowing lonely birthdays and Christmases then to have the fact that every time your mom or dad walks out that door will be the last time you see them. Living on the same bases which could be bombed putting you in the same danger as everyone else. 6 count em 6 of my friends mother's have been handed a folded flag that I have been around to witness. It is the most agonizing thing I could ever witness. I've seen people die, but the worst thing is the families pain. THEN YOU ARE THE DUMBASSES WHO SIGN UP FOR THAT LIFESTYLE! THEN YOU LET YOUR CHILDREN GO THROUGH THE SAME THING. WE HAVE NO CHOICE! YOU DID! The instant you sign that paper you should know that life ANY life on that base or wherever you are only has a 50% chance of life. Go through your blame everyone else pity party if you wish BUT DO NOT DOUBT THAT IT WAS YALL'S DECISION! YALL SIGNED YOUR OWN DEATH WARRANT! If you are really that weak then you shouldn't be in the military. That life is not one to take lightly edited: p.s. I do not care whether or not you believe in God. I believe in God and I will stand up for it when need be. And if you've never believed in God why do you feel the need to name this thread what it is. I swear you atheists are annoying you're like the bible beaters except opposite of the belief you just won't stop beating the dead horse. Let it go we know it's not what you believe let it go! This post has been edited by Isis86: Apr 28 2009, 20:03
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Apr 28 2009, 20:22
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QUOTE THEN YOU ARE THE DUMBASSES WHO SIGN UP FOR THAT LIFESTYLE! Woh, not cool man. I mean, we all know there is no real such thing as God, we're on a hentai forum, but if it wasn't for "those dumbasses", America wouldn't have the freedom to take a vibrator to themselves for some good ol' pixelated goodness. We'd be like the U.S.S.A or something, oh wait, we're almost there anyway. I salute the men AND! women serving our country, doing the dirtiest job in the world...Fighting religious zealots. Religion is a dangerous beast, it can help you achieve things personally when your own moral/willpower isn't sufficient. But it can also lead one completely astray, and into such acts that the terrorist commit on everyone who "doesn't believe in THEIR God". Frankly, I liked the Greek/Roman Gods the best, a nice big Pantheon, and they didn't fuck around. Well, maybe they did, with each other, alot. But...I lost my point there. Anyway. And as for "the children" thing, that's a common excuse used by Dumbocrats to turn our country into a socialist one. Frankly most of "the children" I see these days need a strict re-education and proper respect BEATEN into them, because the ones I see down here in good ol' Looooouisiana make me sick. Back to the point of this topic, there really isn't A God, there are numerous beings far more powerful than we puny humans. Who knows what they are, or why they are here (or aren't, perhaps they've been absent for centuries)? The Christian Deity was a pretty vengeful one, and yeah "The Crusades" was pretty fucked up. And right now we're dealing with the Jihad instead, fun times. In conclusion and to sum it up in FOUR words... Religion is fucked up.
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Apr 28 2009, 20:24
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QUOTE(k9o3w @ Apr 28 2009, 01:06)  You see this? I lost 5 friends in this HWMMV when haj decided to blow it the fuck up. All 5 of them were VERY religious and devout christians. Where the fuck was your god then? Don't spew that "God's plan" bullshit either, because that is the response given when they DON'T have an answer.
Go ahead, mention fate, you know what fate is? "Fate" is an excuse made by those unable to accept responsibility for their own fucking actions. Go find some intestinal fortitude and realize that life sucks, stop using shit as a crutch to get thru daily life.
1st of all, sorry to hear that you friends were in there man. 2nd: Please don't take it as an offense, but as Isis86 said, once they signed the papers, u should have prepared for this. Joining the militaries gives you more chances to end like that. I am not saying that join military is bad, I am just saying that it's war... it's reality man... It would be like covering yourself in fire, and then jumping too close to a fireplace... in some time, u will get burned. U can't just blame god about everithyng. (I believe in god, but I am not an extremist, I do agree that sometimes shit happens, and we can't do a thing about it... but the world is like it's, mostly by our fault) PS: (Before u ask to wich religion I belong, I will anwer that I don't have one right now. But I believe in God.) This post has been edited by Deathscythe_X1: Apr 28 2009, 20:24
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Apr 28 2009, 21:23
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QUOTE(Arrngrim @ Apr 28 2009, 13:22)  Woh, not cool man. I mean, we all know there is no real such thing as God, we're on a hentai forum, but if it wasn't for "those dumbasses", America wouldn't have the freedom to take a vibrator to themselves for some good ol' pixelated goodness. We'd be like the U.S.S.A or something, oh wait, we're almost there anyway.
I salute the men AND! women serving our country, doing the dirtiest job in the world...Fighting religious zealots. Religion is a dangerous beast, it can help you achieve things personally when your own moral/willpower isn't sufficient. But it can also lead one completely astray, and into such acts that the terrorist commit on everyone who "doesn't believe in THEIR God".
Frankly, I liked the Greek/Roman Gods the best, a nice big Pantheon, and they didn't fuck around. Well, maybe they did, with each other, alot. But...I lost my point there. Anyway.
And as for "the children" thing, that's a common excuse used by Dumbocrats to turn our country into a socialist one. Frankly most of "the children" I see these days need a strict re-education and proper respect BEATEN into them, because the ones I see down here in good ol' Looooouisiana make me sick.
Religion is fucked up.
Ok I will admit that was over the line and I apologize. I respect the people in the military, but I cannot respect anyone who joins, knows what they're getting into and then complains about it..you know I was one of those kids and trust any time I misbehaved I got smacked...as did most of my friends...military parents tend to be a little bit more strict..unfortunately . K9 I think you and I will just have to agree to disagree, and I'm sorry for your loss but it's the way things are. I'm sure they were good men, and I don't think they would want you to be so distraught. This post has been edited by Isis86: Apr 28 2009, 21:24
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Apr 28 2009, 21:40
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Nice, got my negative karma cherry popped on this one, good job 3DO. Even though I wasn't "trolling" per se, guess he loves God or something. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It hurts the first time. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Edit - See, this is why I despise religion, it brings out the worst in people. This post has been edited by Arrngrim: Apr 28 2009, 21:43
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Apr 28 2009, 21:45
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it's just a sensitive issue for a lot of people. I mean look people are willing to start wars over it, die for it.
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Apr 28 2009, 21:51
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Precisely why I stay the fuuuudge out of it irl. I'll spout out my sarcastic non-sense on this board (except for the part about the Greek/Roman's, those guys ruled), but no way am I gonna piss off a religious person irl. That's okay though, I'm just waiting for 2012. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Apr 28 2009, 21:54
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I think it's better to have ideas. Ideas you can change. Beliefs are much trickier. As Isis said, people have killed and died for them. All over a belief.
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Apr 28 2009, 21:56
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QUOTE I think it's better to have ideas. Ideas you can change. Beliefs are much trickier. Quoted from Dogma maybe? The 13th apostle? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Apr 28 2009, 22:05
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I'm sorry to hear what happend K9. I know you're frustrated about what happend, but you could expect that all you would get out of this thread was rage from believers, some lulz and a little bit of empathy. I personally am an atheist or maybe just an agnost. The world is just way to unfair to have a god. If there was a god, 40% of the worlds wealth would not belong to 1% of the world. I do think some sort of mild faith is good for some people who for example, are emotionally weak. It can give them something to hold on to and help them through harsh times . I absolutely despice extremists though.
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Apr 28 2009, 23:59
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I knew what the fuck I signed up for, but my point is eveyone in their fucking brother thinks is so god damn easy to just watch people die. The first ignorant question you will always get is "have you killed anyone?" and I want to choke people who ask that. And yes, I HAVE given those folded flags. Who do you think presents the encased one to the families? It sure isn't some nameless joe who never knew the people. You talk of not knowing a parent, you know nothing of my life, so try not to compare your civillian life as a military child to that of mine. Single parent household, never knew my father, and what little family I had, are mostly gone now. So I will say it again, I KNEW what the fuck I got into, but the day you can honestly fucking tell me that you would handle the situation any fucking differently, is the day you can begin to presume so much as to even begin to comprehend what I have seen and been thru. My best friend David died in Iraq 5 months before I enlisted. My Neighbors son is missing a leg because of an IED in afghanistan. Don't act like I have not seen the ramifications of the actions taken on the civilian side. The pure fact that you would say the we have signed a death warrant for our own lives shows how much you take the freedoms you currently hold because of past and present soldiers for granted. Our military is so strong because it is a FULLY VOLUNTEER force of men and women, from all places and races. But we come together under one goal, despite any petty differences we may have, the overall protection of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, from all enemies FOREIGN & DOMESTIC. So please, continue with your jaded views, but just remember next time you decided to do even the small things like go to the grocery store and buy your food, to thank any and all who made it possible. If you can humble yourself to do so that is, after such bold statements.
Don't mistake what I do as a cry for pity and false empathy. This is a fucking reality check for people who do nothing but live their pathetic little lives in the cave of their own home hiding in the bowels of the internet.
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Apr 29 2009, 00:19
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QUOTE(k9o3w @ Apr 28 2009, 23:59)  Don't mistake what I do as a cry for pity and false empathy. This is a fucking reality check for people who do nothing but live their pathetic little lives in the cave of their own home hiding in the bowels of the internet. Yup, Im pleased with my simple life, and I'm not going to care in whose shadow I live it - because it wouldn't be as careless if I did. Think of people as children, yes, the world is shitty place, but they're having fun as long as they don't know it by heart.
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Apr 29 2009, 01:03
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QUOTE(k9o3w @ Apr 28 2009, 18:59)  I knew what the fuck I signed up for, but my point is eveyone in their fucking brother thinks is so god damn easy to just watch people die. The first ignorant question you will always get is "have you killed anyone?" and I want to choke people who ask that. And yes, I HAVE given those folded flags. Who do you think presents the encased one to the families? It sure isn't some nameless joe who never knew the people. You talk of not knowing a parent, you know nothing of my life, so try not to compare your civillian life as a military child to that of mine. Single parent household, never knew my father, and what little family I had, are mostly gone now. So I will say it again, I KNEW what the fuck I got into, but the day you can honestly fucking tell me that you would handle the situation any fucking differently, is the day you can begin to presume so much as to even begin to comprehend what I have seen and been thru. My best friend David died in Iraq 5 months before I enlisted. My Neighbors son is missing a leg because of an IED in afghanistan. Don't act like I have not seen the ramifications of the actions taken on the civilian side. The pure fact that you would say the we have signed a death warrant for our own lives shows how much you take the freedoms you currently hold because of past and present soldiers for granted. Our military is so strong because it is a FULLY VOLUNTEER force of men and women, from all places and races. But we come together under one goal, despite any petty differences we may have, the overall protection of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, from all enemies FOREIGN & DOMESTIC. So please, continue with your jaded views, but just remember next time you decided to do even the small things like go to the grocery store and buy your food, to thank any and all who made it possible. If you can humble yourself to do so that is, after such bold statements.
Don't mistake what I do as a cry for pity and false empathy. This is a fucking reality check for people who do nothing but live their pathetic little lives in the cave of their own home hiding in the bowels of the internet.
Hmm... dude, I really don't wan't to offend ya, but if u are proud of killing someone, so are the ones who killed ur friends, cuzz they do feel and think the same way as u do. Maybe they have their differences, but they are human beings too. As u are proud defending ur country (I am not saying that it's a bad thing being proud of defendig ur country), so are the others. It get's into a viciuous never ending circle. Killing because having killed, die because of having killed... it won't get us anywhere. I say once more that I am not saying that we should let anyone fuck up the country in there we live and we should just watch, no that was not what I meant. Well, u passed from religon to war, I just wanted to say man, that the world is't fair, we have to live with it, and no man, don't say that we don't know anything, live here in paraguay, a country in the justice is fucked up, every day is a battle here. And I mean it, lot's of ppl dies just because of many tiny tings, soon, and no kidding, there will be civil war here, and tell me if that doesn't sucks. I lost my childhood friends because of one bastard who wanted money. Don't tell me that the death on the battle field is different man, cuzz it may be different on the way they die, but death is the same once it's there. No matter who, what or where, we all know it. U are not the only one suffering from losses, each day 1000, no 100000 or more suffer because of the shit that happens in life. On the religious part my friend, it's not that I have anything against you, but let the ppl think, have faith, or believe in what they want to believe, as long as they don't are extremist who interfere with ur life, u can symply ignore them instead of threathing all who has a religion or believes or even has hopes. Qualifying all in a category is just discriminatory. They aren't all the same, some are annoyng, yes, but out there is good ppl willing to help too. About ur friends there wasn't anything that could be done. So u have to get over it, and stop complaining of "what could it have been", cuzz it happened u have to live with it. If u don't believe in god, I am not going to try to make u a believer or something, u believe that there is no god, fine. But rub it in into other ppl who do believe is just being an asshole who search for trouble. Let the other ppl in peace, and I am almost sure, that most of them will leave ya too. Any way, I hope u didn't get offended by reading this, and I thank the ones who took the time to read this.
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Apr 29 2009, 01:22
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QUOTE(Deathscythe_X1 @ Apr 28 2009, 19:03)  Hmm... dude, I really don't wan't to offend ya, but if u are proud of killing someone, so are the ones who killed ur friends, cuzz they do feel and think the same way as u do. Maybe they have their differences, but they are human beings too. As u are proud defending ur country (I am not saying that it's a bad thing being proud of defendig ur country), so are the others. It get's into a viciuous never ending circle. Killing because having killed, die because of having killed... it won't get us anywhere. I say once more that I am not saying that we should let anyone fuck up the country in there we live and we should just watch, no that was not what I meant. Well, u passed from religon to war, I just wanted to say man, that the world is't fair, we have to live with it, and no man, don't say that we don't know anything, live here in paraguay, a country in the justice is fucked up, every day is a battle here. And I mean it, lot's of ppl dies just because of many tiny tings, soon, and no kidding, there will be civil war here, and tell me if that doesn't sucks. I lost my childhood friends because of one bastard who wanted money. Don't tell me that the death on the battle field is different man, cuzz it may be different on the way they die, but death is the same once it's there. No matter who, what or where, we all know it. U are not the only one suffering from losses, each day 1000, no 100000 or more suffer because of the shit that happens in life. On the religious part my friend, it's not that I have anything against you, but let the ppl think, have faith, or believe in what they want to believe, as long as they don't are extremist who interfere with ur life, u can symply ignore them instead of threathing all who has a religion or believes or even has hopes. Qualifying all in a category is just discriminatory. They aren't all the same, some are annoyng, yes, but out there is good ppl willing to help too. About ur friends there wasn't anything that could be done. So u have to get over it, and stop complaining of "what could it have been", cuzz it happened u have to live with it. If u don't believe in god, I am not going to try to make u a believer or something, u believe that there is no god, fine. But rub it in into other ppl who do believe is just being an asshole who search for trouble. Let the other ppl in peace, and I am almost sure, that most of them will leave ya too. Any way, I hope u didn't get offended by reading this, and I thank the ones who took the time to read this.
He was pretty much saying he wasn't proud at all about killing anyone.
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Apr 29 2009, 01:24
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Damm, that happens whe I don't get the 100% of it. Sorry dude, damm the dictionary. Anyway, as a friend of mine said, if u want peace, don't talk about war, religion, or sports, cuzz it always causes trouble.
Well, I would like that u atleast read it, so I can know what u think.
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Apr 29 2009, 01:54
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This thread is lol.
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Apr 29 2009, 01:58
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I'd have to agree with you.
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Apr 29 2009, 03:36
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Let me just to slip this in...
Extreme religious people can be warded from pain from their extreme beliefs, It's not some crock it's been known through history. Though the actual power behind this no-pain thing is more of a self-hypnosis effect, religion and extreme beliefs are known to be quite effective. It doesn't explain whether there's actually a god/alien deity, but it just shows that once the human being is super focused on something when he threw off one of the things that worries him he can be somewhat invincible. Though of course death still awaits them if their bodies are overused~
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