[X] My Assistant

Geh... someone killed a unicorn... now what? Phoenix? Dragon? or Earthworm Jim?

I'm gonna hurt you. First off, I don't even have a full plate set. I've got some chainmail that could be used in place of it, but it's not plate. Second, I'm trying almost full heavy cakefest and I don't think I'm going to get that far. The damage done is so inconsistent, and I keep getting fucking critted over and over. Unless I use shield I'm still going to take between 30-60 damage from some mobs just from their regular attacks. WTF.

The difference between chain and plate for protection can be pretty large depending on quality and suffixes. High aborsb values are ok, but you'll want pieces with high abosorb as well as high mitigation, since the latter is where most of the damage reduction comes from. It's kinda of funny cause as I mentioned before, I have a cloth robe with more absorbtion than my chain chest (high quality and of spirit ward, so works on dark spells too), but take a good deal less physical damage with the chest simply cause of physical damage mitigation, not to mention that plate tends to have better endurance than chain.

I just got to round 18 on normal, and ran into a manbearpig. With full heavy (mostly plate), and no piercing weapon. Got my ass handed to me :'(

hmm, what weapon setup are you using and what is your burden/interference? i ran into mbp in the grind also and took him down pretty easily.

... although actualy now that i think about it for normal i was only using 1 piece of heavy plate, i only use 3 pieces heavy for cake. on normal i use 1 piece heavy, 1 piece light, 3 pieces cloth. i take abit more damage when i get hit, but it gives me 10+ additional evade and another turn or turn of stronger regen.

hmm, what weapon setup are you using and what is your burden/interference? i ran into mbp in the grind also and took him down pretty easily.

... although actualy now that i think about it for normal i was only using 1 piece of heavy plate, i only use 3 pieces heavy for cake. on normal i use 1 piece heavy, 1 piece light, 3 pieces cloth. i take abit more damage when i get hit, but it gives me 10+ additional evade and another turn or turn of stronger regen.

Right now I'm testing out different setups for normal grind. I'm going to have to get rid of or change one of my pieces because I lost a turn of regen which is really hurting. I've got like 45% slashing, 25% crushing and 25% piercing mitigations. I'll try to switch something out that has a bit less interference but about the same mitigation - having an extra 120hp per regen will probably make a nice difference.

Essentially, I refuse to lose in normal grind until I've found enough good items. I'm about to lose, but I held on long enough that I just found 3 health elixirs in the last 4 rounds.

Edit: Just lost - round 68 - my best for normal grind. Definitely worth it. 3 Health Elixirs, several godly mana draughts and potions, and infusions (x200C ahoy).

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Sep 27 2009, 19:06

bob how many items slot do you have?

bob how many items slot do you have?

12. 12 godly mana draughts to get to round 68 with almost all plate, and the mitigations stated above. I really want to get my last regen turn back >.<

you got higher mitigation then me and i still get further then you, strange what is your END?

i only use 6 potions and 6 draughts.

This post has been edited by Eutopia: Sep 27 2009, 19:49

Attack Rating: 286
Magic Rating: 248
Shield Rating: 296
Barrier Ratings: 295
Action Speed: 144

STR: 122+26+1=149
DEX: 123+15=138
AGI: 120+11=133
END: 125+28=153
INT: 113+9=122
WIS: 119+9=128

Dual wielding: 83.54
Heavy armor: 59.21 (part of why I'm probably have trouble with all heavy, I'm not actually even at the point where my prof helps yet, it's actually hurting me, since it only starts getting normalized at half your level, which I'm 1.79prof away from *sigh*).

78.2 interference
82.2 burden

In case you hadn't noticed, that high mitigation came at the cost of making regen last 7 turns instead 8. I'm trying to fix that.

I'll take any advice you have though.

edit: I'm actually a bit curious about those +'s, since my equipment page says:

+14.6 strength
+5.9 dexterity
+1.7 agility
+18.7 endurance
+0 intelligence
+0 wisdom

So where do those +'s come from (I know the 2nd one for strength comes from the shrine)?

edit2: I'm also pretty sure you have better weapons than me Eutopia :P

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Sep 27 2009, 20:11

Auras adds to attributes to dont forget them.

Auras adds to attributes to dont forget them.

Whoops, forgot that.

So what do you have to say, now that you've seen my END and everything?

122 +31
105 +12
105 +10
125 +27
94 +0
95 +0

this is my stats when i go full plate. i suggest if you are really going for melee you can cut back the intelligence a bit, we have the same endurance even though you are 11 lvl above me which can make a difference when grinding i guess.

Also i havent seen your abilities but i guess you have 11 points to get the increase in holy rating?
if yes you can experiment putting those on tanks or overcharge to see if it makes a difference.

This post has been edited by Eutopia: Sep 27 2009, 21:47

Spaghetti Monster flies no more.

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=32 (Flying Spaghetti Monster) LV=167 HP=1678350 MP=220 SP=850 NA=50 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #111 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

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Trophy room:

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Gladiator of the Ring:

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Holy shit you killed my god!

haha congratz gillian what strat did you use?

Did you bombard them on their weakness or just whacked them to death with soul damage?

Cant really see it clearly but did you have 500 overcharge?

i guess you used 2-3 soul stones?

This post has been edited by Eutopia: Sep 27 2009, 21:50

haha congratz gillian what strat did you use?

Did you bombard them on their weakness or just whacked them to death with soul damage?

Cant really see it clearly but did you have 500 overcharge?

i guess you used 2-3 soul stones?

580 overcharge (3 soul stones * 120 each).

Just beat him up. I used the soul stones early and wanted the Overcharge boost so I never once used my spirit attack.

Bleed did 500 dmg per tick, while my normal dmg did 150. Constant bleed killed him.

damn son. tenb is going to have to make a new tier of legendary mobs just for you.


well... theres always other series and games to pull new and even more ridiculously overpowered boss creatures from. just wait until they start casting deprecating spells on you.

za warudo....

Well either way i guess a ethereal weapon is a must to beat them.

Jesus H. Christ. I feel so inadequate. My e-peen has shriveled up into a raisin LOL. Good work, gillian.

I can't beat legendaries yet, but I can do this.

Grin_fest with Longsword of _laughter:

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Setup: all Plate, Longsword of Slaughter ("The Dominotrix").
Items used: 7 Godly Mana Potions.
Time taken: Far too long.

So was it worth it? What did I get out of it, apart from the obvious EXP and C gains? A lot of items (which sold for another 21K), but the only thing out of the ordinary was one Scroll of the Gods. No artifacts. 7 pieces of equipment, 6 of which I sold, one I kept but probably won't use. No useful proficiency gains apart from Curative. I did get two Tokens of Blood... I think. I've never yet actually noticed one dropping, but there they are in my inventory, so...

Anyway, although I'm happy to exploit the system for free credits while I can, I still say Cakefest is completely broken. Maybe Tenboro doesn't care, but I really think something should be done about it. Like increasing the difficulty level every 25 rounds starting at round 50, or something like that. And if you can grind indefinitely on Battletoads, well, good luck to you.