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Just do grindfest on normal, mana elixirs drop frequently over there. If you can reach round 50 you can get around 1-3 mana elixirs, i can get to around 90-105 rounds with 12 godly mana and i can make a surplus of godlys + around 2-7 mana elixirs, and tons of godly/elixirs health.

@Awing: High curative + Regen mean only occasional heals needed (and a better heal/mp rate then cure). Not to mention they have kickass kevlar and dragonhide armor that has amazing defense and pathetic burden/interference.

We'll test this theory. Currently at round 16 on normal. Not a single drop yet ;_;

On the other hand, I'm barely not going to get to round 50. Starting round 20, I need to use regen essentially once per round, that's a lot of MP. Since I'm only using cure and regen and don't have to proc any deprecating, I might try again with another piece of heavy or light armor on... Let's see how far I get.

Another edit: Normal Grindfest is making absorb and I very close friends. -16 <-> +3 MP for saving myself an average 3-5hundred HP. The -16 hurts a lot though I guess... Maybe I should use barrier instead... save myself 50HP on every spell...

It's over. Rounds of Normal grindfest: 57
Items Used: 12 godly mana draughts (cost: 2,640C)
Notable finds: Round 17: [Superior Mithril-adorned Leather Boots of Protection] (sell for 920C since everything besides absorption sucks), Round 47: [Mana Elixir], Round 54: [Infusion of Gaia], Round 57: [Health Elixir] (almost didn't get this since I barely reached round 58)

OK, so the finds were at least worth the cost of the grind, but it still took forever and I only found 1 Mana Elixir >_>

I'll probably try again soon... time to play arena 1 to restore my health/mp.

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Sep 26 2009, 09:16

174 9 You gain 25029 Credits!
174 8 You gain 20009.79 EXP!
174 7 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
174 6 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Godly Mana Potion]
174 5 Konata dropped [Lock of Blue Hair]
174 4 You are Victorious!

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=20 (Konata) LV=115 HP=55490 MP=172 SP=159 NA=61 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #105 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

Got back the only item I used (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

How the hell do you guys get so far in cakefest. Do you use a lot of items or what. I usually only get to about round15 with the use of shitty items like crude health draughts.

Well on cakefest I just wear all my heavy plate armor so I basically take no damage meaning I don't need to heal more then like every 5 rounds, after I have 9 monsters. So basically its all based on gear.

@Awing: High curative + Regen mean only occasional heals needed (and a better heal/mp rate then cure). Not to mention they have kickass kevlar and dragonhide armor that has amazing defense and pathetic burden/interference.

We'll test this theory. Currently at round 16 on normal. Not a single drop yet ;_;

On the other hand, I'm barely not going to get to round 50. Starting round 20, I need to use regen essentially once per round, that's a lot of MP. Since I'm only using cure and regen and don't have to proc any deprecating, I might try again with another piece of heavy or light armor on... Let's see how far I get.

Another edit: Normal Grindfest is making absorb and I very close friends. -16 <-> +3 MP for saving myself an average 3-5hundred HP. The -16 hurts a lot though I guess... Maybe I should use barrier instead... save myself 50HP on every spell...

It's over. Rounds of Normal grindfest: 57
Items Used: 12 godly mana draughts (cost: 2,640C)
Notable finds: Round 17: [Superior Mithril-adorned Leather Boots of Protection] (sell for 920C since everything besides absorption sucks), Round 47: [Mana Elixir], Round 54: [Infusion of Gaia], Round 57: [Health Elixir] (almost didn't get this since I barely reached round 58)

OK, so the finds were at least worth the cost of the grind, but it still took forever and I only found 1 Mana Elixir >_>

I'll probably try again soon... time to play arena 1 to restore my health/mp.

For normalgrind I've been running 3 plate 2 fleet cloth, all I cast is shield and absorb whenever needed, for me absorb usually returns 30-39 mana making it pretty efficient since it costs 37 to cast, I still get the occasional 20something return but overall it works well. I still only have 9 item slots, tried it earlier and got to round 70 mostly got godly health items, a few godly manas, 2 health elixirs, 1 spirit elixir, and 2 mana elixirs, overall I'd say unless you can get over 100 its probably not worth it to grind on normal for items cakefest is just so much easier.

For normalgrind I've been running 3 plate 2 fleet cloth, all I cast is shield and absorb whenever needed, for me absorb usually returns 30-39 mana making it pretty efficient since it costs 37 to cast, I still get the occasional 20something return but overall it works well. I still only have 9 item slots, tried it earlier and got to round 70 mostly got godly health items, a few godly manas, 2 health elixirs, 1 spirit elixir, and 2 mana elixirs, overall I'd say unless you can get over 100 its probably not worth it to grind on normal for items cakefest is just so much easier.

2 Fleet Cloth... God. Where do you get these equipment!?

I got to round 58. That was with 2 plate and 3 cloth. I'm about to try 2 plate, 1 light, and 2 cloth, and a switch in weapons. The point of it for me is to get mana elixirs, I don't care so much about lesser items or anything short of godly. I assume you also cast regen on normal even though you said just shield and absorb.

Anything below godly is scrap for the +80 lvl guys. And Bob what you got is around what you get for 57 rounds it can vary a bit depending on luck but sometimes even when i get to 100 i also only get 1 mana elixir. The credit gain is around x6 compared to cake so i think its worth it, btw you tried full plate yet on normal?

Anything below godly is scrap for the +80 lvl guys. And Bob what you got is around what you get for 57 rounds it can vary a bit depending on luck but sometimes even when i get to 100 i also only get 1 mana elixir. The credit gain is around x6 compared to cake so i think its worth it, btw you tried full plate yet on normal?

No. I'll give it a shot. I FEEL slow with just 3 plate though, and that's saying something. You're not supposed to even feel your speed in a game like this, not really. I think my previous attempt at normal grind must've been a fluke, because I'm trying again with 2 heavy, 1 light, 2 cloth and a better main hand, and I'm needing a godly mana draught every 2-3 rounds, and I'm only at round 28. And I only have 8 or so draughts left.

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Sep 26 2009, 12:08

149 13 You gain 10012 Credits!
149 12 You gain 2198.62 EXP!
149 11 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
149 10 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Godly Mana Draught]
149 9 White Bunneh dropped [Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch]

This time:
Scroll of Life
4x Godly Mana Draught
1 Health Elixer

Not used:
2x Mana Elixer


WTF:

9 8 You have been defeated.
9 7 Mithra hits you for 480 slashing damage.
9 6 Effect Bleeding Wound on Mithra has expired.
9 5 Bleeding Wound hits Mithra for 87 damage.
9 4 Mithra hits you for 372 slashing damage.
9 3 Bleeding Wound hits Mithra for 87 damage.
9 2 You hit Mithra for 46 slashing damage.
9 1 Regen restores you with 60 points of health.
8 6 Your Spark of Life restores you from the brink of defeat.
8 5 Mithra hits you for 521 slashing damage.
8 4 Bleeding Wound hits Mithra for 87 damage.
8 3 You are healed for 288 Health Points.
8 2 You cast Cure.
8 1 Regen restores you with 60 points of health.
7 5 Mithra hits you for 384 slashing damage.
7 4 Bleeding Wound hits Mithra for 87 damage.
7 3 Your attack procs the effect Bleeding Wound on Mithra.
7 2 You hit Mithra for 44 slashing damage.
7 1 Regen restores you with 60 points of health.
6 3 You block the attack from Mithra.
6 2 Mithra dodges your attack.
6 1 Regen restores you with 60 points of health.
5 4 Mithra hits you for 460 slashing damage.
5 3 You are healed for 333 Health Points.
5 2 You cast Cure.
5 1 Regen restores you with 60 points of health.
4 4 Mithra hits you for 374 slashing damage.
4 3 Shield procs the effect Shield on yourself.
4 2 You cast Shield.
4 1 Regen restores you with 60 points of health.
3 4 Silence procs the effect Silenced on Mithra.
3 3 You cast Silence.
3 2 You gain 0.01 points of deprecating magic proficiency.
3 1 Regen restores you with 60 points of health.
[b]2 4 Mithra hits you for 467 slashing damage.
2 3 Regen procs the effect Regen on yourself.
2 2 You are healed for 152 Health Points.
2 1 You cast Regen.
[b]1 3 Mithra hits you for 530 slashing damage.
1 2 Scroll of Life procs the effect Spark of Life on yourself.
1 1 You use Scroll of Life.
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=18 (Mithra) LV=72 HP=116050 MP=53 SP=67 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #103 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!


Someone tell me wtf happened there?

The other bosses hit me for about 120 and a crit for about 240. This mithra is hitting me for over 450! My HP is only 1600 Killed me off pretty quickly.

This post has been edited by nick321: Sep 26 2009, 13:33

9 8 You have been defeated.
...
3 4 Silence procs the effect Silenced on Mithra.
3 3 You cast Silence.
3 2 You gain 0.01 points of deprecating magic proficiency.
3 1 Regen restores you with 60 points of health.
2 4 Mithra hits you for 467 slashing damage.
2 3 Regen procs the effect Regen on yourself.
2 2 You are healed for 152 Health Points.
2 1 You cast Regen.
1 3 Mithra hits you for 530 slashing damage.
1 2 Scroll of Life procs the effect Spark of Life on yourself.
1 1 You use Scroll of Life.
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=18 (Mithra) LV=72 HP=116050 MP=53 SP=67 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #103 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!
Someone tell me wtf happened there?

The other bosses hit me for about 120 and a crit for about 240. This mithra is hitting me for over 450! My HP is only 1600 Killed me off pretty quickly.

You forgot to cast weaken :\

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Sep 26 2009, 13:46

You forgot to cast weaken :\

No I didn't. I don't have weaken, and I didn't need it the two other times.

No I didn't. I don't have weaken, and I didn't need it the two other times.

Apparently things have changed then

Surprised you managed the others without it seeing as it halves their damage...

Edit: Also prevents physical crits.

This post has been edited by Dndestroy: Sep 26 2009, 14:05

No I didn't. I don't have weaken, and I didn't need it the two other times.

Either you're lying or you're insane. USE weaken.

Apparently things have changed then

No kidding.

Surprised you managed the others without it seeing as it halves their damage...

Edit: Also prevents physical crits.

Yes.

This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Sep 26 2009, 14:18

Weaken is like the best ability available, it makes them take more damage and half their damage output. I cant understand how you arent using it.

Its possible he didnt lie because when you lvl up your equipments dont lvl up with you, so if you cant find equipments that are better then your current ones it will be hard on you the further away from the lvl of your equipment you get. Which is happening a bit for me now my equipments are around 80-90 and im 110 and i can feel its getting harder by every lvl.

This post has been edited by Eutopia: Sep 26 2009, 14:18

I'm not fucking lying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif).

Look:

(IMG:[i37.tinypic.com] http://i37.tinypic.com/2ebaiw7.jpg)


I used to use weaken but it's silly to sink 5 ability points in it when it takes focus + 4 casts to get it to stick.

I can kill all mimi-bosses in that many hits.

I'm only going to see anything above in the bloody arena of.


Now that I remember I did swap some plate for cloth and light (hands and helment).

How could it make such a difference though. It was only a couple of points in physical absorbtion (from 19 to 17).

Took my interference from 80 to fifty something though

This post has been edited by nick321: Sep 26 2009, 14:35

its the mitigation on slashing piercing and crushing that really matters when you switch. Physical absorption is worthless when mobs do 100+ damage each.

Also, from the looks of it, mitigation is indeed applied before absorbtion. I can say this with a fair amount of confidence cause I take more damage in my cloth robes than my chainmail chestpiece. You might think that's natural, but the absorbtion on my cloth robe is about 1 point higher than that on my chestpiece cause of levels, but the difference in damage taken is about 5-6 points.

Edit: And that's on cake of course.

This post has been edited by Dndestroy: Sep 26 2009, 15:17

No I didn't. I don't have weaken, and I didn't need it the two other times.

Mithra is an advanced version of Manthra, from the 2 times I've faced him. High physic attack, low physic spell, and a ton of hp/defense. Guessing you have to switch something here or there.

It could be the level difference Mithra was the same level as you, so you could have gotten lucky with lower level bosses before.

Anything below godly is scrap for the +80 lvl guys. And Bob what you got is around what you get for 57 rounds it can vary a bit depending on luck but sometimes even when i get to 100 i also only get 1 mana elixir. The credit gain is around x6 compared to cake so i think its worth it, btw you tried full plate yet on normal?

I tried full plate before got me about the same results, only I have to cast absorb a lot more, and hope for good mana returns on it.

I'm not fucking lying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif).

I believe you! I believe you!

its the mitigation on slashing piercing and crushing that really matters when you switch. Physical absorption is worthless when mobs do 100+ damage each.

Pretty much. And I'm honestly not sure I have a full plate set. And if I used it, my burden and interference would probably be over 100. Not sure how that's gonna work, especially since I can currently attack twice in a row sometimes.

just tried normalfest full plate high parry dualwield ended up going 94 rounds, although I was getting pretty lucky with second winds had like 25 mana second winds. Ended up with 4 mana elixirs, and 5 Health Elixirs.

This post has been edited by uth: Sep 26 2009, 21:12