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post Sep 24 2010, 18:55
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Sep 24 2010, 16:29) *

I'd recommend Axe/Rapier over Katana/Wakizashi unless you have a ridiculously good set of the latter.
Definitely Axe/Rapier over Katana/Wakizashi. You must have some kind of insane good bleding niten set to overcome Axe/Rapier because of 2 things:
The pitiful Wakizashi's bleeding will fuck up the Katana's bleeding, and this will worsen as you raise level/2W prof.
You lose the extra damage from PA+poison, and if you use silence, the extra damage from mini-spirit attacks too, so the Katana's bleeding must be way superior to the Axe's bledding.
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post Sep 24 2010, 19:17
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Sep 24 2010, 11:29) *

PA does not affect bleed damage. If you're at the appropriate level and have access to Dark spells, you CAN use them to speed up the battle, but it's not necessary. I'd recommend Axe/Rapier over Katana/Wakizashi unless you have a ridiculously good set of the latter. You can usually find better bleed on an axe, and PA does help.

Keep in mind that if you're going to try it at as low of a level as Buktore did it, you should go with mitigation gear. I don't know if it'd be possible with a regular equip setup (you'd probably have to go ridiculous with the item usage at the very least, unless you wanted to do it the super slow mage way, but it'd take foreverx10 without Dark spells.


Here is my Katana and Wakizashi below. I'm not sure if you'd consider this good or not but the damage and stuff is scaled to my level.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=cf6ae5e14d
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=33366531f0

I'm going to try it as soon as I reach level 100 so I'm making preparation right now.
So I know I need Holy mitigation against Unicorn and Dark against Flying Spaghetti but what about Real Life? Is there a damage mitigation for Soul Damage as well? And what % mitigation is a good amount for all my armor together? Is it around 75-76% mitigation?
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post Sep 24 2010, 19:47
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QUOTE(shiki666 @ Sep 24 2010, 10:17) *

Here is my Katana and Wakizashi below. I'm not sure if you'd consider this good or not but the damage and stuff is scaled to my level.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=cf6ae5e14d
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=33366531f0

I'm going to try it as soon as I reach level 100 so I'm making preparation right now.
So I know I need Holy mitigation against Unicorn and Dark against Flying Spaghetti but what about Real Life? Is there a damage mitigation for Soul Damage as well? And what % mitigation is a good amount for all my armor together? Is it around 75-76% mitigation?


No, go with Axe/Rapier as cmdct said.

Yes, there is shielding-aura equipment for soul damage mitigation, but it's not worth it, since unlike the other 2 types, shielding-aura equip can usually only have 3-4% at best. In that sense, Real Life can actually be harder than IPU at least, since you can't mitigate its damage.

Shoot for at around 70% at least. That much is pretty easy to acquire. I don't bother with it myself, but cmal, Sayo, etc. have some available in their shops.

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post Sep 24 2010, 20:23
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QUOTE(shiki666 @ Sep 24 2010, 18:17) *

I'm going to try it as soon as I reach level 100 so I'm making preparation right now.
If you really want to beat at that level, get all item slots, because you're gonna need them all, and more for FSM (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(shiki666 @ Sep 24 2010, 18:17) *

And what % mitigation is a good amount for all my armor together? Is it around 75-76% mitigation?
Considering you have all item slots, that should be enough for IPU, but for FSM if you don't bring around 90% you can't do it, IIRC had ~85%, and spend all items at level 130.

Another thing, you need not only high 2W proficiency (which raise bleed damage), but also curative/supportive/deprecating proficiencies high as well.

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post Sep 24 2010, 21:04
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Sep 24 2010, 14:23) *

If you really want to beat at that level, get all item slots, because you're gonna need them all, and more for FSM (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Considering you have all item slots, that should be enough for IPU, but for FSM if you don't bring around 90% you can't do it, IIRC had ~85%, and spend all items at level 130.

Another thing, you need not only high 2W proficiency (which raise bleed damage), but also curative/supportive/deprecating proficiencies high as well.


Well I bought an item slot so I got 8 right now. (I also bought an aura slot too.) I'll of course choose all the ability item slots if thats what your talking about.

Here are my proficiencies below. I'm getting hooked to maging right now but I'll be sure to keep up my 2W. (I hope 85-90 proficiency is enough for when I reach 100.)
And how much bleed for axe would you recommend? Should I be getting something the same as my katana like 300 bleed damage for axe?

Also should I forget the elementalist armor and just wear my high evade silk to fight the gods? Do most people beat the Gods with Melee or a Staff?

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post Sep 24 2010, 21:36
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Real life, IPU, and meh I had only 67,4% dark mitigation against FSM, +80 dark mitigation should do the trick.

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Do most people beat the Gods with Melee or a Staff?
At low level with bleeding till now. Forget the elementalist stuff.
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post Sep 24 2010, 21:50
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I did it with a staff, but I was considerably higher level. It also takes way longer and is boring as shit. Just do it with bleeding.
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post Sep 24 2010, 22:46
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Sep 24 2010, 12:50) *

I did it with a staff, but I was considerably higher level. It also takes way longer and is boring as shit.

How long did it take you to beat them? It took me over 7,000 turns to beat the FSM on battletoads...
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post Sep 24 2010, 22:48
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If you really wanna do RL on easy mode, here's what you do:
1) Use any setup that uses a PA rapier
2) Bring some Soul Stones, a Gum, and a Vase
3) Stay alive until you overload your OC
4) Proc PA
5) Use Gum and Vase
6) ???
7) Profit

For extra lulz, bring an Infusion of Gaia along.
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post Sep 24 2010, 23:36
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QUOTE(cmal @ Sep 24 2010, 16:48) *

If you really wanna do RL on easy mode, here's what you do:
1) Use any setup that uses a PA rapier
2) Bring some Soul Stones, a Gum, and a Vase
3) Stay alive until you overload your OC
4) Proc PA
5) Use Gum and Vase
6) ???
7) Profit

For extra lulz, bring an Infusion of Gaia along.


Umm you do know I only got 8 item slots right? I assume RL has around 120-150k HP on Normal and If I bring 2 Soul Stones, 1 Gum, 1 Vase, and 1 Gaia I only have 3 mana elixirs left. Do the Soul Stones stack OC? Can I get 300% OC with 2 Soul Stones added together? And even doing all that plus Gaia would that be enough to takeout RL? Or would it only do like 50% damage to his HP and I would have to finish off from there?

I can't decide for 2W should I have the axe as the main hand or the rapier? Do I want to have bleed more often or is it better to have PA?
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post Sep 25 2010, 00:02
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QUOTE(shiki666 @ Sep 24 2010, 14:36) *

Do the Soul Stones stack OC?

Yes.
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post Sep 25 2010, 00:07
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cmal is right, although it's funny since usually I'm the one who recommends that stuff lol
OC is added, let one stone expire before you use the other. Use 5 stones, wait for PA proc (a rapier with +3 turns), then use the gum+vase, cast the spirit attack, RL will die. (you don't need mana elixirs)

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post Sep 25 2010, 00:41
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I've already demonstrated the power of stacking Soul Stones with the Vase and Gum. You just need to stay alive until you reach critical OC. However, this tactic won't work as well against the other two gods. RL is specifically weak to Soul damage, so nuking it with a Super Spirit Attack is Super Effective.
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post Sep 25 2010, 14:25
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QUOTE(cmal @ Sep 24 2010, 18:41) *

I've already demonstrated the power of stacking Soul Stones with the Vase and Gum. You just need to stay alive until you reach critical OC. However, this tactic won't work as well against the other two gods. RL is specifically weak to Soul damage, so nuking it with a Super Spirit Attack is Super Effective.


Awesome! I'm definitely trying that on RL. Thanks!
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57 11 You gain 10038 Credits!
57 10 You gain 1255.65 EXP!
57 9 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
57 8 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Godly Mana Draught]
57 7 You have obtained the title: Ascended
57 6 Dalek dropped [Dalek Voicebox]
57 5 You are Victorious!
57 4 Regeneration restores you with 312 points of health.
57 3 Dalek drops a Shock Gem powerup!
57 2 Dalek has been defeated.
57 1 You unleash Spirit Attack on Dalek for 6222 soul damage.

I finished Endgame right after getting level 100!
But my title is still Lord. What's going on?

edit: the title has to be activated manually. D'oh!

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post Sep 26 2010, 22:56
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Real Life.


CODE
Accuracy: 410/422 (97.16%), Crits: 74/410 (18.05%), Offhand: 125/410 (30.49%), Counter: 0/0 (0%), Domino: 0/410 (0.00%), OverStrikes: 0/410 (0.00%), Coalesce: 0/391 (0.00%), Interference: 0/103 (0.00%), Resists: 16/103 (15.53%), Spell Crits: 1/391 (0.26%), Avg hit dmg: 4.88|281.83, Avg crit dmg: 8.77|70.00, Avg dmg: 5.58|281.29Hits taken: 142/410 (34.63%), Missed: 101/410 (24.63%), Evaded: 111/410 (27.07%), Blocked: 0/410 (0.00%), Parried: 54/410 (13.17%), Resisted: 0/2 (0.00%), Crits taken: 0/142 (0.00%), Total taken: 49038, Avg taken: 345.34


576 17 You gain 50325 Credits!
576 16 You gain 2912.92 EXP!
576 15 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
576 14 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
576 13 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Average Mithril Longsword of Slaughter]
576 12 Real Life dropped [Black T-Shirt]
576 11 You are Victorious!
576 10 Regen restores you with 87 points of health.
576 9 The effect Bleeding Wound on Real Life has expired.
576 8 The effect Bewildered on Real Life has expired.
576 7 Stop kicking the dead horse.
576 6 Real Life has been defeated.
576 5 Spreading Poison hits Real Life for 303 damage.
576 4 Real Life hits you for 341 soul damage.
576 3 Soul Harvest hits Real Life for 45 soul damage.
576 2 You cast Soul Harvest.
576 1 You gain 0.03 points of forbidden magic proficiency.

Mhm. I was only testing the waters. Oh well.
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FUCK!!
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0 10 Spawned Monster I: MID=11 (Zombie Cow) LV=248 HP=5980 MP=179 SP=25 NA=50 Type=hostile
0 9 Spawned Monster H: MID=17 (White Bunneh) LV=245 HP=39215 MP=387 SP=67 NA=50 Type=hostile
0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=12 (Manthra) LV=247 HP=6102 MP=103 SP=10 NA=50 Type=hostile
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=20 (Konata) LV=245 HP=118110 MP=141 SP=88 NA=50 Type=hostile
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=21 (Mikuru Asahina) LV=245 HP=206805 MP=282 SP=206 NA=50 Type=hostile
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=15 (Apathetic Canuck) LV=246 HP=5780 MP=11 SP=90 NA=50 Type=hostile
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=14 (Blue Hedgehog) LV=246 HP=5780 MP=72 SP=43 NA=50 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=2 (Tentacle Monster) LV=247 HP=2559 MP=82 SP=43 NA=60 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=13 (Mind Raper) LV=250 HP=5630 MP=188 SP=78 NA=50 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #29 (Round 150 / 150) ...
0 0 Battle Start!


Equipment:
Fine Prism Rapier of Slaughter
Superior Ruby Kite Shield of the Barrier
Fine Gold-trimmed Phase Cap of Freyr
Exquisite Diamond Plate Cuirass of Warding
Average Silk Gloves of the fleet
Fine Silk Pants of the Fleet
Fine Platinum-adorned Kevlar Boots of Warding

Items:
11x Mana Elixirs

Breakdown:
Konata: 17
Mikuru Asahina: 18
Ryouko Asakura: 17
Yuki Nagato: 24

Strategy:
Weaken/Bewilder, Nerf, PA+Poison, Lifestream. Cast Spark against Yuki and Mikuru. No IAs, spot Cures when necessary.

It took fucking forever, since I was doing shit damage with just 50% ADM and no Bleed. Spark triggered once. Every other time, it either didn't connect (over 50% Evade and Block) or didn't do enough damage to outright kill me.
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post Sep 27 2010, 05:20
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Congratulations! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Any plans on doing Twilight?
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Sep 26 2010, 23:20) *

Congratulations! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Any plans on doing Twilight?

When I feel like it. That slog took me a solid three hours. Now that I have a tried and true strategy, Twilight should be possible so long as I don't have any bad luck.
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It begins.
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