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you have Nerf which decreases their attack rating

If it does, it doesn't do it enough for it to be noticeable.

, and don't forget that by using 1 piece of dark mitigation gear it's not only that your playing be a little worse

Let me worry about my gear set-up.

but you still have to deal with Ryouko in theory 1/4 of the 75 rounds.

Why would I worry about Ryouko? I can survive Impaler easily. Once I get the last 5% mitigation from cold rating, it will be even simpler.

Bdw why you can't survive to Time Quake and Data Re-Write with bewilder alone in the first place?

It's not that I can't survive it. It is that I can't always survive it. At the high end, they were doing 6500 damage with Bewilder in effect. That is more than my total HP.

It's not that I can't survive it. It is that I can't always survive it. At the high end, they were doing 6500 damage with Bewilder in effect. That is more than my total HP.

Ok now I'm very confused.
Left clarify some things first:
-Legends do the same damage whatever round it is, and it's the same damage in RoB.
-You tested several times, and verified that even with +82% HP pool more than a regular 80s player, plus 12.5% dark mitigation sometimes they were doing damage above your total HP
-80s players don't have spark of life, so basically they beat them using +50% magical mitigation for a scroll of avatar or using mitigation gear.
-Probably until now in the arenas with legends you used spark of life to protect against their attacks so that weren't a problem for you.

-This leads in 1 of 2 conclusions:
-Every simple player that defeated the legends in RoB without silence or spark of life were lucky because they didn't got hit with the high end damage they can do.
-Their Attack Rating grows faster than our Barrier Rating.

Were did I made a mistake?

PS:Sorry if I'm bothering with insisting on this, but I'm also thinking when I need to deal with them in To Kill a God, and it would be a bad surprise if I lose in the last round just because I didn't use spark of life.

This post has been edited by cmdct: Apr 28 2010, 19:33

Left clarify some things first:
-Legends do the same damage whatever round it is, and it's the same damage in RoB.

Yes (assuming you are talking about arenas)

-You tested several times, and verified that even with +82% HP pool more than a regular 80s player, plus 12.5% dark mitigation sometimes they were doing damage above your total HP

Yes.

-80s players don't have spark of life, so basically they beat them using +50% magical mitigation for a scroll of avatar or using mitigation gear.

They could also be using scrolls of life/gods.

-Probably until now in the arenas with legends you used spark of life to protect against their attacks so that weren't a problem for you.

Yes.

-This leads in 1 of 2 conclusions:
-Every simple player that defeated the legends in RoB without silence or spark of life were lucky because they didn't got hit with the high end damage they can do.

I'd say they generally got lucky because they managed to avoid/resist/parry the attacks or they were using a scroll that gave spark of life.

-Their Attack Rating grows faster than our Barrier Rating.

I doubt it. I wonder if anyone was ever able to survive the high end of their spirit attacks. Note, when I'm saying the high end, it is equivalent in damage to the low end of a crit.

And really, those kinds of rolls are fairly rare. I'd say they are only an issue when you are going to be fighting 70 legendaries in a row in fights that are going to be protracted because the need to proc ether theft. I can't afford to have spark triggering except in the rarest of circumstances and to insure that, I want to be able to survive without spark ever triggering.

PS:Sorry if I'm bothering with insisting on this, but I'm also thinking when I need to deal with them in To Kill a God, and it would be a bad surprise if I lose in the last round just because I didn't use spark of life.

And why can't you just use spark of life?

This post has been edited by Boggyb: Apr 28 2010, 19:43

I'd say they generally got lucky because they managed to avoid/resist/parry the attacks or they were using a scroll that gave spark of life.
I doubt it. I wonder if anyone was ever able to survive the high end of their spirit attacks. Note, when I'm saying the high end, it is equivalent in damage to the low end of a crit.

Ok now I understand, case closed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

And why can't you just use spark of life?

I can, but don't think I'm gonna engage them several times in RoB till then, and from my experience I didn't need it, that's why I said it would be a bad surprise to lose because of that.

This post has been edited by cmdct: Apr 28 2010, 23:17

Longest Journey Cleared!

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Mikuru Failed

First Try - DW + 4 Heaven-sent armor. PA+Banish.

4 Time Quakes minus 3 Sparks = death. Cruel thing was, I thought I won when the Result Pop-Up thingie appeared, as she was one shot away from defeat herself. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I should have used my Earth-walker Phase Robe for extra turns of Bewilder/Weaken/Slow/Shadow Veil. I think I spent more than twice as much time casting support/depreciating spells then actually fighting her. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I'd get PA and have to cast 2-3 S/D spells instead of Banish. Just one or two more 3000+ HP PA+Banish would have gotten her.

I was using my normal Item Inventory so, the worst I lost was 1 Godly Mana Potion. Next time I am bring a little higher grade of mana pots, and Scrolls of the Gods, Avatar, and Life now that I know I have room for them. Plus, this was an under-prepared whim of the moment. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

97 8 You have been defeated.
97 7 Time Quake hits you for 3502 dark damage.
97 6 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake
97 5 Mikuru Beam hits you for 604 soul damage.
97 4 Mikuru Asahina casts Mikuru Beam

75 5 Your Spark of Life consumes some of your Spirit, and restores you from the brink of defeat.
75 4 Time Quake hits you for 3910 dark damage.
75 3 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake

54 7 Your Spark of Life consumes some of your Spirit, and restores you from the brink of defeat.
54 6 Time Quake hits you for 3658 dark damage.
54 5 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake

31 5 Your Spark of Life restores you from the brink of defeat.
31 4 Time Quake hits you for 3954 dark damage.
31 3 Mikuru Asahina casts Time Quake

0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=21 (Mikuru Asahina) LV=133 HP=112200 MP=45 SP=177 NA=51 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #106 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

This post has been edited by Alpha 7: Apr 30 2010, 09:43

Mikuru Failed

First Try - DW + 4 Heaven-sent armor. PA+Banish.

4 Time Quakes minus 3 Sparks = death. Cruel thing was, I thought I won when the Result Pop-Up thingie appeared, as she was one shot away from defeat herself. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

It's good to know there's still people that fights legends in the old fashion way (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
You have absorb? Time Quake is a magical attack so if you cast bewilder to prevent eventual crits, and cast absorb, in theory Time Quake is catch 75% of the time, so 4 Time Quakes = +- 1 Spark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Konata cleared on first try!

Here's the situation shortly before she died:
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And here she succumbs to me:
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Items used:
1 Superior Mana Draught, 1 Superior Mana Potion, 1 Greater Mana Potion, 1 Godly Health Potion, 1 Shield Scroll, 1 Barrier Scroll, 1 Scroll of the Gods.

May have gotten through it without using some of these as my resist/evade/parry quota and accuracy were surprisingly high. Oh, and these three cuties helped me a lot, too.

Fresh meat cleared, using 3 godly mana draught and 1 godly health potion...

Just made it threw Crusade 70 rounds

33 12 You gain 35440 Credits!
33 11 You gain 25581.1 EXP!
33 10 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
33 9 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Fine Cotton Gloves of Protection]
33 8 Amphibious Sperm Whale dropped [Godly Mana Draught]
33 7 White Bunneh dropped [Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch]
33 6 Mithra dropped [Mithra's Flower]
33 5 Dalek dropped [Dalek Voicebox]
33 4 You are Victorious!

Accidentally did Trio+Tree with my normal DW set. It was pretty easy, almost as easy as with my eth set. The only difference was I wasn't getting PA to proc as frequently since my rapier was on my offhand, so I lost a little bit of DPS. So there's some good news for those of you who are "pure" fighters like myself; you won't need an eth if you have a good PA and/or Bleed weapon set.

Trio and The Tree Cleared

39 13 You gain 50648 Credits!
39 12 You gain 28993.39 EXP!
39 11 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
39 10 Arena Token Bonus! Received:
[Token of Healing]
39 9 Arena Clear Bonus! Received:
[Godly Health Draught]
39 8 You have obtained the title: Godslayer
39 7 Yggdrasil dropped [Sapling]
39 6 You are Victorious!

NormalFest/no items, new record:

1 3 You have been defeated.
1 2 Scary Ghost hits you for 155 physical damage.
1 1 You hit Scary Ghost for 419 crushing damage.
0 9 Spawned Monster H: MID=26 (Amphibious Sperm Whale) LV=133 HP=1535 MP=131 SP=3 NA=73 Type=hostile
0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=10 (Blue Slime) LV=134 HP=1376 MP=8 SP=2 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=5 (Giant Panda) LV=135 HP=1400 MP=136 SP=18 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=8 (Rabid Hamster) LV=137 HP=1417 MP=111 SP=13 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=9 (Cookie Monster) LV=133 HP=1366 MP=12 SP=15 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=25 (Mutant Peacock) LV=137 HP=1585 MP=22 SP=39 NA=72 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=4 (Cockatrice) LV=133 HP=1340 MP=47 SP=28 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=7 (Scary Ghost) LV=134 HP=1618 MP=83 SP=12 NA=68 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing Grindfest (Round 114) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

Feast for Crows cleared. Two Average Mana Draughts and one Average Mana Potion used.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) A totally surprise, I even started with 2/3 of total MP.
NormalFest/no items, new record (again):

2 17 You have been defeated.
2 16 Scary Ghost hits you for 225 physical damage.

0 10 Spawned Monster I: MID=4 (Cockatrice) LV=136 HP=1365 MP=70 SP=5 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 9 Spawned Monster H: MID=25 (Mutant Peacock) LV=135 HP=1560 MP=72 SP=12 NA=72 Type=hostile
0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=8 (Rabid Hamster) LV=134 HP=1390 MP=119 SP=30 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=7 (Scary Ghost) LV=138 HP=1661 MP=49 SP=36 NA=67 Type=hostile
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=10 (Blue Slime) LV=138 HP=1413 MP=49 SP=34 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=9 (Cookie Monster) LV=138 HP=1413 MP=61 SP=20 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=1 (Green Slime) LV=138 HP=1385 MP=33 SP=46 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=6 (Fire Fox) LV=138 HP=1483 MP=90 SP=9 NA=76 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=5 (Giant Panda) LV=135 HP=1400 MP=137 SP=24 NA=79 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing Grindfest (Round 140) ...
0 0 Battle Start!

Exile Cleared - 1st Try

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I waited on doing this, as I hate long slogs, and this was definitely one of them. I am going to hate Feast for Crows. Used a lot of Mana pots doing DW Elemental Mage style. Straight DW (R+D) until the md-boss arrive, then targeted Tier II AOE on them, and eventually full rotational magic to conserve MP. Once I got to the Final Round, it was simple enough, but, damn, getting there is expensive and boring. Last Round: Silence the Boss, clear the cannon fodder, then PA+Arcane Focus+Infusion+Magic for a few turns.

0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=19 (Dalek) LV=132 HP=21120 MP=34 SP=72 NA=60 Type=hostile

Used a lot of Mana pots doing DW Elemental Mage style.

You really should try it as a pure Mage. I accidentally started Dreamfall with my 1H setup the other day, and had to use all my items to clear it. The most annoying part was having to use the Mana Elixir in the last round when all I needed was another Average Mana Draught... Anyway, as a mage I often clear it with no items used.

Went through Endgame for the first time today. I burned through a bunch of Average Mana Draughts, but whatever.

I'm not in a hurry to try the next arena.

In case you hadn't realised, you can try the next one right now.

You really should try it as a pure Mage. I accidentally started Dreamfall with my 1H setup the other day, and had to use all my items to clear it. The most annoying part was having to use the Mana Elixir in the last round when all I needed was another Average Mana Draught... Anyway, as a mage I often clear it with no items used.

I did 'first clear' the previous Arena as a mage but, I burned even more pots that way, and fighting a Boss with just magic and a staff without PA is slow and dangerous.