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post Apr 21 2009, 02:33
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Added Ryouko Asakura, I doubt that's everything though.
Resists: Cold, Fire
Magic: Spike Shot, unspecified damage

Edit: Added to the elemental wiki's aswell.

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post Apr 21 2009, 08:46
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In my last battle, I cast Lightning on a Cookie Monster and it weakened it enough to where I could do an attack against it and kill it off. I kept thinking what would make a cookie crumble and it seemed to work.

EDIT: Oh, I see on the chart that would fall under Electric. I'll test it some more.

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post Apr 21 2009, 23:54
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Met Dalek today - on Grindfest.

Data to compare typical monsters HP:

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0    5    Spawned Monster D: MID=19 (Dalek) LV=35 HP=2310 MP=293 SP=379 NA=94 Type=hostile
0    4    Spawned Monster C: MID=8 (Rabid Hamster) LV=36 HP=295 MP=139 SP=10 NA=99 Type=hostile
0    3    Spawned Monster B: MID=5 (Giant Panda) LV=40 HP=354 MP=130 SP=10 NA=97 Type=hostile
0    2    Spawned Monster A: MID=7 (Scary Ghost) LV=36 HP=376 MP=112 SP=10 NA=93 Type=hostile


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1    6    Inferno hits Dalek for 1 fire damage.


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1    14    You have been defeated.
1    13    Death Ray crits you for 281 unspecified damage.
1    12    Dalek uses Death Ray


So it's Fire immune.
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post Apr 22 2009, 05:02
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QUOTE(Dlaglacz @ Apr 21 2009, 16:54) *

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1    6    Inferno hits Dalek for 1 fire damage.


So it's Fire immune.


That implies fire based magic for Dalek.

A few corrections/counters to Wiki - "unspecified damage" = Spirit Attack (old Legendary Karma attack) the Legends in the Banner Battles used both magic and Legendary attacks against us, while the lesser monsters lacked Legendary points or attacks. "Attack Type" might want to become "Magic Type" while a "Spirit Attack" is added to the Legends table.

Fire worked well for me against Mithra whereas as Wiki lists it as resistant. That's the wrong term, too. Any monster can resist any magic. I use Magic Fails but, "Strong" would fit better in the table.

Magic Fail List (Does 1 point of damage)
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Apathetic Canuck - Ice
Blue Hedgehog - Ice
Blue Slime - Electric
Cockatrice - Ice
Cookie Monster - Ice
Fire Fox - Fire
Giant Panda - Ice
Green Slime - Wind
Manthra -
Manticore - Fire
Mind Raper - Electric
Rabid Hamster -
Scary Ghost -
Tentacle Monster -
Zombie Cow - Wind

18. Mithra -
19. Dalek - Fire


Confirmed: Blue Slime is not strong against Ice/Cold:

5 5 You dodge the attack from Blue Slime
5 4 Blue Slime uses Bouip
5 3 Icestrike hits Blue Slime for 57 cold damage.
5 2 You cast Icestrike.
5 1 You gain 0.02 points of cold magic proficiency.
4 4 Blue Slime hits you for 6 damage.
4 3 Icestrike hits Blue Slime for 57 cold damage.
4 2 You cast Icestrike.
4 1 You gain 0.03 points of cold magic proficiency.


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post Apr 22 2009, 05:33
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Dalek is resistant to everything. When I got one I just Flee'd, so I didn't learn much. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Edit: Yuki Nagato is resistant to Fire (no surprise there). I didn't learn what her attack was called because I was killed by something else. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Apr 22 2009, 17:43
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I encountered Konata today.

Magic: Timotei (unspecified)

Needless to say, that's all I got out of the battle since that killed me.
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post Apr 22 2009, 17:49
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Timotei...

Timotei...

(adding)
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post Apr 22 2009, 18:25
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Hey about that dalek, keep in mind it's a legendary monster, meaning it has high resistances.

For all i know you actually hit his weak spot with inferno.
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post Apr 22 2009, 18:33
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QUOTE(Cyriel @ Apr 22 2009, 09:25) *

Hey about that dalek, keep in mind it's a legendary monster, meaning it has high resistances.

For all i know you actually hit his weak spot with inferno.

We can always correct it with better info later if we get any.
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post Apr 22 2009, 20:03
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QUOTE(YoungHickory @ Apr 22 2009, 17:49) *
Timotei...

Timotei...

(IMG:[gannonman.com] http://gannonman.com/image/Timotei_115938077.gif)
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post Apr 22 2009, 20:41
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QUOTE(3d0xp0xy @ Apr 22 2009, 20:03) *


Timotei!
related
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post Apr 22 2009, 21:13
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QUOTE(Cyriel @ Apr 22 2009, 11:41) *

Konata would approve.
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post Apr 22 2009, 23:19
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QUOTE(Cyriel @ Apr 22 2009, 14:41) *


I cant see how this HERE was not in the related!

By the way anyone has Dark or Holy Magic? Because otherwise I'm pretty sure Scary Ghost and Tentacle Monster will get 1 dmg from Dark Damage.

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post Apr 23 2009, 02:19
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I used Fire against a Zombie Cow a little while ago and it didn't do anything. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Apr 23 2009, 20:50
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This seems to contradict previous observations:

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5 3 Icestrike hits Giant Panda for 17 cold damage.
5 2 You cast Icestrike.


In case you're wondering why I used Cold magic against a monster I believed to be immune to it... it was an hourly battle, I'd pwned the Green Slime and there was just the Panda to finish off, so I thought I'd give it a few rounds of Icestrike for this:

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5 1 You gain 0.02 points of cold magic proficiency.


Not that I know what that actually achieves in game terms...

The one possible variant factor here was this:

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4 3 Fireball procs the effect Searing Skin on Giant Panda.
4 2 Fireball hits Giant Panda for 67 fire damage.
4 1 You cast Fireball.


I know it's not logical for a monster's resistance to cold to be lowered because it's on fire, but magic doesn't have to be logical, right? (Or Tenboro changed it, or we just got it all wrong.)
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post Apr 24 2009, 02:09
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God, what works on a Manthra? I got one today and it seems I threw everything but the kitchen sink at it and it basically did nothing.
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post Apr 24 2009, 03:30
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Can't help you there, but it definitely looks as though Searing Skin (oddly enough) cancels a monster's immunity to Cold magic.

Giant Panda, no Searing Skin:

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1 4 Icestrike procs the effect Freezing Limbs on Giant Panda.
1 3 Icestrike hits Giant Panda for 1 cold damage.
1 2 You cast Icestrike.


Cockatrice, Searing Skin:

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2 3 Icestrike hits Cockatrice for 17 cold damage.
2 2 You cast Icestrike.
2 1 You gain 0.03 points of cold magic proficiency.
1 6 Cockatrice hits you for 4 damage.
1 5 Searing Skin hits Cockatrice for 8 damage.
1 4 Fireball procs the effect Searing Skin on Cockatrice.


Does anyone know what Freezing Limbs actually does, btw?
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post Apr 24 2009, 03:40
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I just ran into an Apathetic Canuck - I didn't get a chance to actually harm the thing, but I did notice that it's meH attack did cold damage, in case anybody's interested.
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post Apr 24 2009, 05:18
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Just glancing at the Wiki, I noticed the hamster's weakness was lighting. I found Wind attacks more effective against it. Anyone else notice that or is my wind magic just that strong?
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post Apr 24 2009, 05:44
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QUOTE(Sonic @ Apr 23 2009, 21:18) *

Just glancing at the Wiki, I noticed the hamster's weakness was lighting. I found Wind attacks more effective against it. Anyone else notice that or is my wind magic just that strong?


Even with my wind maxed out and my lightning not increased at all, lightning seems to do more. I'll test it out some more.

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