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Fire for green slime? You sure on that one? Think cold works better for me but I'll have to try it out I guess.

I'll try Cold but, my Fire Rating is so high, it might be distorting my results. In most cases Fire does 40% damage on the (non-Fire immune) common monsters for me.

Checking the Bestiary, it's even less accurate than my list. I have confirmed reports of the Cookie Monster being weak to Wind, not Fire; and it lacks the Peacock's and Whale's confirmed weakness, too.

Edit: Green Slime showed up in my first battle. While Fire was getting the job done for me, Cold totally kicked its Green ass. Update edited in.

As for the Cow, thankfully, I rarely see it, and second-tier Electric attacks are far away for me or most other people so, it's hard to confirm Lightning's effectiveness against the Zombie Cow, without being able to account for other factors.

This post has been edited by Alpha 7: May 28 2009, 00:28

i was bored, so~
divine proficiency: currently 0.70 (was 0.09 when i started)
difficulty: normal (grindfest)
holy rating: 26%

Smite hits Mantitcore for 1 holy damage.
Smite blasts Blue Hedgehog for 1 holy damage.
Smite blasts Cookie Monster for 1 holy damage.
Smite hits Manthra for 1 holy damage.
Smite blasts Mutant Peacock for 1 holy damage.
Smite hits Rabid Hamster for 1094 holy damage.
Smite hits Tentacle Monster for 352 holy damage.
Smite hits Green Slime for 446 holy damage.
Smite hits Scary Ghost for 818 holy damage.
Smite blasts Scary Ghost for 1457 holy damage.
Smite hits Giant Panda for 1033 holy damage.
Smite hits Cockatrice for 1363 holy damage.
Smite hits Amphibious Sperm Whale for 992 holy damage.
Smite hits Fire Fox for 1090 holy damage.
Smite hits Blue Slime for 816 holy damage.
Smite hits Mind Raper for 1003 holy damage.
Smite hits Apathetic Canuck for 907 holy damage.
Smite hits Zombie Cow for 653 holy damage.


This post has been edited by Ebil☆Panda: Jun 1 2009, 19:48

Could you check to see if Holy is more effective than the other weakness for these three?

Rabid Hamster - Holy (Elect)
Cockatrice - Holy (Fire)
Scary Ghost - Holy (Fire)

I have noticed that their previous weakness just wasn't as bad as others - they take a 50% HP loss, while other monsters take 80-100% HP loss against their Elemental weakness.

Flare hits Scary Ghost for 1139 fire damage.
Flare blasts Scary Ghost for 1205 fire damage. << what a weak crit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Flare hits Cockatrice for 1105 fire damage.
Flare blasts Cockatrice for 1658 fire damage.

Ball Lightning hits Rabid Hamster for 1102 elec damage.
Ball Lightning blasts Rabid Hamster for 1623 elec damage.

Checking the Bestiary, it's even less accurate than my list. I have confirmed reports of the Cookie Monster being weak to Wind, not Fire; and it lacks the Peacock's and Whale's confirmed weakness, too.

Care to post your list or even update the bestiary?

Care to post your list or even update the bestiary?

... and don't forget the linnk, for lazy people like me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Care to post your list or even update the bestiary?

It's on the previous page, where I have been editing in new information, however...

Updating with some early Holy results from Ebil☆Panda

Magic Fail List (Does 1 point of damage)
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Normal Monsters
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Blue Slime - Electric
Cockatrice - Ice
Cookie Monster - Ice Holy
Fire Fox - Fire
Giant Panda - Ice
Green Slime - Wind
Mantitcore - Holy
Rabid Hamster - Fire
Scary Ghost -
Tentacle Monster -
Mutant Peacock - Holy
Amphibious Sperm Whale -

Mid-Bosses
------------
Apathetic Canuck - Ice
Blue Hedgehog - Ice Holy
Manthra -
Mind Raper - Electric
Zombie Cow - Wind xxx

*************************

Weak versus...
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Green Slime - Cold
Mantitcore - Cold
Rabid Hamster - Elect + Holy
Giant Panda - Fire
Cockatrice - Holy (Fire)
Cookie Monster - Wind (Fire)
Scary Ghost - Fire
Blue Slime - Wind (Cold)
Tentacle Monster - Fire
Mutant Peacock - Wind (Elect)
Amphibious Sperm Whale - Fire

Mid-Bosses
------------
Blue Hedgehog - Elect
Manthra - Wind
Mind Raper - ?
Apathetic Canuck - Fire
Manbearpig - Fire
Zombie Cow - ?

As for the Wind weak monsters, I have taken into account that many of us do not have Wind (I just recently got it myself) so, the second spell-type is what seemed to work best for me before I got Wind.

As for the Bestiary, I looked at it, and I don't have a clue how to edit a Wiki table so, I cannot update that.

This post has been edited by Alpha 7: Jun 3 2009, 00:21

Weak versus...
================

Manthra - Cold

Manthra has never been weak versus cold for me. Example:

35 3 You have been defeated.
35 2 Manthra hits you for 164 damage.

32 3 Manthra crits you for 237 damage.

23 3 Freeze hits Manthra for 309 cold damage.
23 2 You cast Freeze.

16 2 Manthra crits you for 104 damage.
15 2 Manthra crits you for 84 damage.
14 2 Manthra crits you for 74 damage.
13 2 Manthra crits you for 104 damage.
12 5 Claw crits you for 146 physical damage.
9 2 Manthra crits you for 108 damage.
8 2 Manthra crits you for 76 damage.

7 3 Freeze hits Manthra for 319 cold damage.
7 2 You cast Freeze.

4 5 Green Slime has been defeated.
4 4 Freeze procs the effect Freezing Limbs on Green Slime.
4 3 Freeze blasts Green Slime for 1675 cold damage.
4 2 You cast Freeze.

0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=12 (Manthra) LV=76 HP=5520 MP=175 SP=54 NA=83 Type=hostile
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=1 (Green Slime) LV=76 HP=2055 MP=175 SP=39 NA=92 Type=hostile
0 1 Initializing random encounter ...
0 0 Battle Start!

More like cold just pisses it off. I forgot I had a damn potion for backup or I would have won. Manthra (144/5520)

This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Jun 2 2009, 09:33

Gale hits Manthra for 854 wind damage.
Gale blasts Manthra for 1405 wind damage.
Freeze hits Manthra for 384 cold damage.

that's more like it

Spawned Monster G: MID=23 (Yuki Nagato) LV=99 HP=77775 MP=324 SP=922 NA=68 Type=hostile


=< why did i have to forget to try smite

I bet it still would have been 1.

I guarantee you need dark for the real legendaries.

As for the Wind weak monsters, I have taken into account that many of us do not have Wind (I just recently got it myself) so, the second spell-type is what seemed to work best for me before I got Wind.

As for the Bestiary, I looked at it, and I don't have a clue how to edit a Wiki table so, I cannot update that.

Thanks for the list and I edited wiki site according to your list.

manthra isn't weak to cold tho

page should probably be changed a bit
i'm thinking
monster - non-effective - effective - most effective

This post has been edited by Ebil☆Panda: Jun 2 2009, 21:31

I already changed manthra to wind for the time being.

I already changed manthra to wind for the time being.

Likewise.

Up until recently, I didn't see Manthra much, and I guess I got a lucky roll trying Cold against it (in my pre-Windblast days) then. Since then, I just use a combination of 3 Weaken and about 14 straight Attacks, pausing only for a Weaken re-load. That tactic has been very effective for me so, I never tried Wind against it, when I got it.

Still every bit of information helps us all. Thanks for the Wiki edits. I've never Wiki'ed before, and when I clicked the Edit tab, I took one look and Ran Away. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Thanks for editing the Wiki!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Mind raper?!? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

physical more than likely.

after using toddlerguro, it has always been very weak for me.

This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Jun 3 2009, 03:20

don't think it's a weakness, but holy works pretty well against it
and yeh, it's normal attacks are weak, which i love

and yeh, it's normal attacks are weak, which i love

Every game has to have a mage enemy.