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May 19 2009, 02:30
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Panuru
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I defer to your judgment on the translation, then.
I'm not entirely sure why they're called Sperm Whales in the first place.
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May 19 2009, 03:02
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Awing01
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QUOTE(Panuru @ May 18 2009, 20:30)  I defer to your judgment on the translation, then.
I'm not entirely sure why they're called Sperm Whales in the first place.
Well the waxy substance found in the head is called spermaceti because it was confused as semen. QUOTE(Ido013 @ May 18 2009, 17:12)  Simple, I've known the sperm whale as a "cachalot" in French...doesn't really sound like sperm whale to me.
Physeter catodon is the scientific name assigned to the sperm whale, its roots are in latin. Catodon probably became cachalot at some point in history. So yea, for all those who are from the U.S. and did take US history in high school, probably would have learned that sperm whales were hunted nearly to the point of extinction because of all the blubber that is stored in the head area. It was a fairly large economy back in the 1700's. And if you didn't learn that in history class, I'm sure a lot of people are familiar with Moby Dick... that was a sperm whale too. Now as for double entendre in the context that it was used, is just an American colloquialism, a figure of speech so it's really pointless to debate it's meaning because it all depends on contextual language and origin. Now unless we want to get into a freaking linguistics debate I say we get back to talking about how the monsters of the H-verse are raping us all (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Awing01: May 19 2009, 03:07
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May 19 2009, 12:07
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moonflow
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QUOTE(nick321 @ May 18 2009, 11:59)  I dunno what kind of sea worlds you have over there but they don't keep freaken whales over here, a few sharks and dolphins but they do give them lots of water. Going to such a place though you'd learn about them.
Anyway if you watched documentaries you'd know what a sperm whale is... They're fairly popular. They go well with petunia's.
If your Sea World doesn't have some whale, so why did you ask this: QUOTE(nick321 @ May 17 2009, 14:15) * ...
How could you not know what a sperm whale is!?
Didn't you go to underwater world or sea world?
I believe that I can learn more if I can see them in their natural livling spaces. Interacting with their natural surrounding including predators. And as you already should know, not everybody here is native english. I'm german and this infamous whale is called "Pottwal" in german because of the head which someone thought it is sticking out like a pot. Back to the point of this thread: After turning to a Journeyman, I seem to run out of luck. I can only beat about 50/50 of my hourly battles. I'm feeling really awkward that 3 fiends can slaughter me so easily. 1 Whale + 1 Ghost + 1 Peacock = I'm dead meat. It seems that Fireball isn't doing enough damage.
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May 19 2009, 13:10
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TheBigR
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QUOTE(moonflow @ May 19 2009, 18:07)  Back to the point of this thread: After turning to a Journeyman, I seem to run out of luck. I can only beat about 50/50 of my hourly battles. I'm feeling really awkward that 3 fiends can slaughter me so easily. 1 Whale + 1 Ghost + 1 Peacock = I'm dead meat. It seems that Fireball isn't doing enough damage.
Weaken is your friend until cure and shield become available. Invest in it and enjoy the rewards. With those 3 spells I win more often than not in random encounters on heroic. I used to have only the single hit fire spells for certain enemies but now I just prefer the shield + weaken all + constant melee approach. Better to use AP for HP, MP and OD Boost
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May 19 2009, 14:37
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nick321
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QUOTE(moonflow @ May 19 2009, 20:07)  If your Sea World doesn't have some whale, so why did you ask this: QUOTE(nick321 @ May 17 2009, 14:15) *
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How could you not know what a sperm whale is!?
Didn't you go to underwater world or sea world?
I believe that I can learn more if I can see them in their natural livling spaces. Interacting with their natural surrounding including predators.
And as you already should know, not everybody here is native english. I'm german and this infamous whale is called "Pottwal" in german because of the head which someone thought it is sticking out like a pot.
Back to the point of this thread: After turning to a Journeyman, I seem to run out of luck. I can only beat about 50/50 of my hourly battles. I'm feeling really awkward that 3 fiends can slaughter me so easily. 1 Whale + 1 Ghost + 1 Peacock = I'm dead meat. It seems that Fireball isn't doing enough damage.
Yeah that's fair enough sorry, I wouldn't/should expect you to know the english name of all the animals you know in your native tounge. So you did know the animal just not it's name (in english) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by nick321: May 19 2009, 14:38
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May 19 2009, 15:37
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jarald
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QUOTE(TheBigR @ May 19 2009, 04:10)  Weaken is your friend until cure and shield become available. Invest in it and enjoy the rewards. With those 3 spells I win more often than not in random encounters on heroic. I used to have only the single hit fire spells for certain enemies but now I just prefer the shield + weaken all + constant melee approach. Better to use AP for HP, MP and OD Boost
Whereas I prefer to keep the basic elemental offensive spells, and use Weaken in combination with elemental attacks aimed at enemy weaknesses. I use melee as a backup, or to polish of near-dead foes. It serves me pretty well, all things considered.
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May 19 2009, 16:51
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TheBigR
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QUOTE(jarald @ May 19 2009, 21:37)  Whereas I prefer to keep the basic elemental offensive spells, and use Weaken in combination with elemental attacks aimed at enemy weaknesses. I use melee as a backup, or to polish of near-dead foes. It serves me pretty well, all things considered.
Well regardless of tactics the point I wanted to make is still the same. Weaken will make your life easier (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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May 19 2009, 21:26
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jarald
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QUOTE(TheBigR @ May 19 2009, 07:51)  Well regardless of tactics the point I wanted to make is still the same. Weaken will make your life easier (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) You'll get no argument from me on that one. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I just finished an hourly battle without Weaken - an experiment - and noticed a couple of hundred HP's difference in the aftermath. Weaken does its job, quite well. I imagine the fact that I maxed it helps, though. Don't have to re-up it quite so often.
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May 19 2009, 22:58
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moonflow
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Can somebody tell me what weakness(es) a Manthra and/or a Mithra have? They aren't on the wiki page. Next time I bump in one of them, I will post the battle. This time I was too shocked to do so. Nearly instant kill. Yeah, dead again (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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May 20 2009, 02:44
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Cyriel
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QUOTE(moonflow @ May 19 2009, 22:58)  Can somebody tell me what weakness(es) a Manthra and/or a Mithra have? They aren't on the wiki page. Next time I bump in one of them, I will post the battle. This time I was too shocked to do so. Nearly instant kill. Yeah, dead again (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) None most likely.
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May 21 2009, 06:06
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Awing01
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Weak is t3h sh1t. I can do all my hourlies on hard and get through the first 5 rounds of the arena on hard as well. I accidently wasted 1000 credits to do round 6 on hard, still made it to the final round but got killed by the boss monster that had over 1100 health (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) . I did get some good exp from that though.
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May 21 2009, 08:05
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20200
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QUOTE(moonflow @ May 19 2009, 13:58)  Can somebody tell me what weakness(es) a Manthra and/or a Mithra have? They aren't on the wiki page. Next time I bump in one of them, I will post the battle. This time I was too shocked to do so. Nearly instant kill. Yeah, dead again (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Does a fully charged spirit attack count? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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May 21 2009, 17:45
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Blutkaefer
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 21 2009, 02:05)  Does a fully charged spirit attack count? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) If they don't resist the attack, then maybe. Doing 1 damage to a manthra is just wrong.
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May 22 2009, 04:35
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Awing01
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 21 2009, 02:05)  Does a fully charged spirit attack count? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) You know 39/39 spirit points and 100% OC kills most normal boss monsters for me. Even on hard it whacks off like 70%,
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May 22 2009, 22:05
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Alpha 7
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I defeated a Mind Raper. My stats are all 25, and Fireball seemed the most effective attack. Only 2 fire, 2 ice, and two physical to base it on...
8 2 Mind Raper has been defeated. 8 1 You hit Mind Raper for 65 physical damage. 7 3 Mind Raper hits you for 5 damage.
7 1 You hit Mind Raper for 59 physical damage.
6 2 Fireball hits Mind Raper for 133 fire damage. 6 1 You cast Fireball.
5 3 Fireball hits Mind Raper for 133 fire damage. 5 2 You cast Fireball.
4 4 Icestrike procs the effect Freezing Limbs on Mind Raper. 4 3 Icestrike hits Mind Raper for 95 cold damage. 4 2 You cast Icestrike.
3 2 Icestrike hits Mind Raper for 118 cold damage. 3 1 You cast Icestrike.
2 3 Weaken procs the effect Weakened on Amphibious Sperm Whale. 2 2 You cast Weaken.
1 3 Weaken procs the effect Weakened on Mind Raper. 1 2 You cast Weaken. 1 1 You gain 0.03 points of deprecating magic proficiency. 0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=13 (Mind Raper) LV=25 HP=564 MP=75 SP=17 NA=96 Type=hostile 0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=26 (Amphibious Sperm Whale) LV=28 HP=320 MP=55 SP=15 NA=96 Type=hostile 0 1 Initializing Grindfest (Round 2) ... 0 0 Battle Start!
Lightning is worthless against MR, obviously, and I don't have Wind, yet.
Magic Fail List (Does 1 point of damage) =========================================
Normal Monsters ----------------- Blue Slime - Electric Cockatrice - Ice Cookie Monster - Ice Fire Fox - Fire Giant Panda - Ice Green Slime - Wind Mantitcore - Rabid Hamster - Fire Scary Ghost - Tentacle Monster -
Mid-Bosses ------------ Apathetic Canuck - Ice Blue Hedgehog - Ice Manthra - Mind Raper - Electric Zombie Cow - Wind
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Weak versus... ================ Green Slime - Cold Mantitcore - Cold Rabid Hamster - Elect Giant Panda - Fire Cockatrice - Fire Cookie Monster - Wind (Fire) Scary Ghost - Fire Blue Slime - Wind (Cold) Tentacle Monster - Fire
Mid-Bosses ------------ Blue Hedgehog - Elect Manthra - Cold Mind Raper - Fire (tent.) Apathetic Canuck - Fire Manbearpig - Fire Zombie Cow - ?
Mutant Peacock - Elect Amphibious Sperm Whale - Fire
This post has been edited by Alpha 7: May 27 2009, 18:48
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May 22 2009, 22:37
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jarald
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Y'know, I've been getting significantly better damage against Cookie Monsters with Wind than with fire. It's half again as much, usually, and this is without crits factored in. Might be Cookie monster is actually weaker to wind than fire.
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May 23 2009, 02:55
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20200
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QUOTE(Awing01 @ May 21 2009, 19:35)  You know 39/39 spirit points and 100% OC kills most normal boss monsters for me. Even on hard it whacks off like 70%,
57/57 and 100% failed to kill a boss, then he resisted weaken, then he Critted me, then I died. That 5th round of Test of Faith can be brutal. This post has been edited by Boggyb: May 23 2009, 02:55
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May 23 2009, 03:10
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Jonavrek
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QUOTE(Alpha 7 @ May 23 2009, 03:05)  Magic Fail List (Does 1 point of damage) =========================================
Normal Monsters ----------------- Blue Slime - Electric Cockatrice - Ice Cookie Monster - Ice Fire Fox - Fire Giant Panda - Ice Green Slime - Wind Mantitcore - Rabid Hamster - Fire Scary Ghost - Tentacle Monster -
Mid-Bosses ------------ Apathetic Canuck - Ice Blue Hedgehog - Ice Manthra - Mind Raper - Electric Zombie Cow - Wind
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Weak versus... ================ Green Slime - Cold Mantitcore - Elect Rabid Hamster - Elect Giant Panda - Fire Cockatrice - Fire Cookie Monster - Fire Scary Ghost - Fire Blue Slime - Wind (Cold) Tentacle Monster - Fire
Mid-Bosses ------------ Blue Hedgehog - Elect Manthra - Cold Mind Raper - Fire (tent.) Apathetic Canuck - Fire Manbearpig - Fire Zombie Cow - ?
Mutant Peacock - Elect Amphibious Sperm Whale - Elect
Looking for the weakness of Zombie Cow and found this. Thanks a lot.
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May 23 2009, 03:14
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Panuru
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QUOTE(Alpha 7 @ May 22 2009, 15:05)  Weak versus... ================ Mantitcore - Elect
I tried this, and cold is still working better for me. I have the same rating for cold and electric, so that's not affecting anything.
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May 23 2009, 03:38
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Alpha 7
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QUOTE(jarald @ May 22 2009, 16:37)  Y'know, I've been getting significantly better damage against Cookie Monsters with Wind than with fire. It's half again as much, usually, and this is without crits factored in. Might be Cookie monster is actually weaker to wind than fire.
I don't doubt you but, I don't yet have Wind (like most of us) to verify it. I have edited it in however, I've found Fire to be the best choice of the first 3 spell-types. QUOTE(Jonavrek @ May 22 2009, 21:10)  Looking for the weakness of Zombie Cow and found this. Thanks a lot.
Sorry, no one has found a weakness for the Cow other than a full-on Spirit Attack. However, only 1 of us has Holy Attack magic and no one has Dark Magic. QUOTE(Panuru @ May 22 2009, 21:14)  I tried this, and cold is still working better for me. I have the same rating for cold and electric, so that's not affecting anything.
Really? I tried Electric and it got the job done so, I didn't bother with Cold. I'll test it out. I have an Elemental Rating of 16.13 so, I should get some good results. Thanks. There is a difference of opinion on the Whale's weakness, too. Some say Fire is best. I'll have to try that out, too.
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