[X] My Assistant

It counts both ways. Which is basically what's confusing everyone.

Ah, there's the answer. I imbued Cyriel earlier, and then he imbued me back for -4%. The next time one of us imbues the other will be -8% and so on up to -80% for the last 30 day period.

That can't be how it was intended. You wouldn't even be able to imbue 1 member/day without dropping to 0% by the end.

That can't be it either. Hito should have gotten a full from Cyriel. I did someone about 4 1/2 hours ago and the KE was 70+%. I just did Sonic (for his EH Calculator and all the help and advice he has personally given to me) and got this..

Karmic Exhaustion reduces the effect of your imbuement to 36%.

You have imbued Sonic with 13.32 points of positive karma.

Karma Amplification! The effect of the imbuement is increased to 46.62!

His K Amp was the only thing that kept it from being near pointless, and he is one of the most deserving people here, IMO. I last +K'ed him 4 days 23 hours (more or less) ago.

As for tens, you may bitch about him but, I do find him funny with his mock rants and whining. I get the joke. Plus, there is a reason why he has a Dull Gem - both tagging and cleaning up bad tagging in the galleries, no doubt taking him into galleries he would rather pass over. That alone makes him deserving of all the +K he gets.

The other reason tens came in second is because Shadow Weaver is a friggin' robot or something. Whether that is true or not - he gets hit with way too much neg Karma from angry bad taggers, and is equally or moreso desrving of every +K he gets.

The people who really get hurt by this are the poor, fooish noobs who join the expunge thread. For them Power is for expunge voting - not ego or +K strength or even Legendary strength. Those who have been there longer realize this and try to boost the (expunge vote) Power of the ones who hang around and keep at it. The two key reasons I got my max. +25 vote: was my Silver Star (the atar Power boost + 3 Power Tank buys paid for by the donation Credit bonus) and multiple full +K hits from some of the regulars. Without their help, I would have been at Power 13 instead of 27, when this change occurred. (That's 13 with the Silver Star, 4 Power Tanks [1], and Blue Aura.)

I'll admit there is likely some circle-jerking going on but, the three day limit contains some of that by itself. Likewise, I have imbued 34 over the last 4 days (not counting the 2 today). Let me tell you it's a bitch to keep track of everyone and even with about hourly Karma recharge cycles, I have been stretched out to 5 days between re-hits. While there are probably a few people I could take off my list, there are more who I feel are truly deserving for their help to the website, who do deserve the regular reminders and thanks that +K gives for doing otherwise thankless work to better E-Hentai.

If you really want to make +K meaningful and cut back on the circle-jerking: Get rid of this KE and simply extend the 3 day limit to say 7 days or 10 days. That would cut the CJ'ing by 33%/67% right there and those who truly deserve a full hit can get it for the hours of their time they devote to help E-H.


Edit: [1] I forgot the note on the 4th Powerr Tank - not that it probably matters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) - I had bought one earlier (pre-donation, pre-expunge) thinking it might help my HP in the Banner Battles. :dur:


This post has been edited by Alpha 7: Apr 17 2009, 11:19

If you really want to make +K meaningful and cut back on the circle-jerking: Get rid of this KE and simply extend the 3 day limit to say 7 days or 10 days. That would cut the CJ'ing by 33%/67% right there and those who truly deserve a full hit can get it for the hours of their time they devote to help E-H.

Keep in mind that most people's power was increased by a significant amount (in some cases doubled) while the karma tiers remained the same, this was partially to offset the reduction you get from Karmic Exhaustion while still making circle jerks obsolete compared to actually earning it.

Addendum: If you like to +K the same guy repeatedly because he's such a great guy, over time the KE will settle at 40%, which with the other changes work out to about the same +K as before. However if he +Ks you back every time, congratulations, you've just become a circle jerk and it's 80%. It's not like I didn't put any thought into this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Karmic Exhaustion reduces the effect of your imbuement to 36%.

You have imbued Sonic with 13.32 points of positive karma.

Karma Amplification! The effect of the imbuement is increased to 46.62!

His K Amp was the only thing that kept it from being near pointless, and he is one of the most deserving people here, IMO. I last +K'ed him 4 days 23 hours (more or less) ago.

So that simply means KE is retroactive. You and Sonic should count up how many times you've imbued each other in the past 30 days. I'm betting the total is 9.

Edit: Scratch that, I read it backwards. It would be a total of 16.

This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Apr 17 2009, 10:26

It's not like I didn't put any thought into this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

That's the comment that stabs at the souls of this forum's members.

It's something I'll consider.

This is not a bad idea actually. I'm gonna go ahead and stealth patch that when noone's looking.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Seriously?

This post has been edited by 3d0xp0xy: Apr 17 2009, 11:08

A thought on the karma shield thing. Make it more of a bubble effect instead of a reflective shield. For instance, and this is an example not really exact numbers, make it absorb like 10 energy per level per week so that it's still worth having to fend off the negative, but won't prohibit people negging them and when someone is angering enough people their shield runs out awful quick.

Ugh, gawd, all this got changed around because why? Because I was getting through the Saint ranks too quickly, or because some retard got a lot of much deserved -K, or because a few new people wanted to share some karma with others in a thread and have conversation in the meantime, or was it because about 2 people on this entire website griped about circle jerking? I don't get it.

And either way, my power's still capped. The number on the outside has increased but I can still only give out 1K, which is only up one point from the original 999. Unless our power has something to do with HV, which I'm still not sure about.

And for people claiming to not care so much about the numbers, it's really surprising to me to see so many complaining about it.

Actually the -k changes might well have been more my fault than yours.

Actually the -k changes might well have been more my fault than yours.

Negative karma changes weren't my fault to begin with since I rarely neg anyone. And if it had to do with Ravioli, I only negged him twice and whatever he got from everyone else was his fault alone.

I don't know what the negging practices of the other members here are exactly, but these changes seem a bit drastic is all.

And for the black/white/rainbow aura, what are the new values for those or will the hath page be updated soon with the info? Oh, and any changes to the Jems/Cookie awards?

seems like you need to update your EH Calculator again

like the new karma system.

does the new karma system also involve reduction of negative karma imbuement if imbued repeatedly?

guess its time to change my crappy sig eh? wow my power jumped from 13 to 23

Karmic Exhaustion reduces the effect of your imbuement to 88%.

Karma Amplification increases the effect of the imbuement by 33%

You have imbued StormRaiderX with 26.9192 points of positive karma.

Your Karma Influence Power has been drained, and is now 1.

This post has been edited by rionyamato: Apr 17 2009, 12:19

I made some more changes to how the trained boosts work, and fixed a bug that caused training after joining the HentaiVerse to not be included. See first post for details.

This is not a bad idea actually. I'm gonna go ahead and stealth patch that when noone's looking.

That kinda makes training karma shield pointless unless its calculated after the amplifier effect so more -k gets reflected at the imbuer.

Does not.

Does so. If you don't want people getting as much +k why don't you just extend the time period it takes to be able to imbue them again? It used to be 24 hours and you stretched it to 3 days, so why not just extend it again, like 5 days?

I made some more changes to how the trained boosts work, and fixed a bug that caused training after joining the HentaiVerse to not be included. See first post for details.

You haven't made any tweaks to or broken regen in the last few days, have you? For some reason my power seems to be regenerating slower than usual, and it should be faster now that I've gone over 200 power.

Does so. If you don't want people getting as much +k why don't you just extend the time period it takes to be able to imbue them again? It used to be 24 hours and you stretched it to 3 days, so why not just extend it again, like 5 days?

I don't have to defend my changes, but I will still do so. This is better because it still allows people to imbue karma to each other several times on the short term without any effect, when the power increase is considered. However on the long term, organized circle jerks are nerfed to the point where it's not a huge advantage pretty-green-number wise. It's not about reducing the amount of karma people can get. It's about reducing the amount of karma people can get for nothing.

I don't have to defend my changes, but I will still do so. This is better because it still allows people to imbue karma to each other several times on the short term without any effect, when the power increase is considered. However on the long term, organized circle jerks are nerfed to the point where it's not a huge advantage pretty-green-number wise. It's not about reducing the amount of karma people can get. It's about reducing the amount of karma people can get for nothing.

Ok I see your point.

Hey, my power went down yet again and Pandawhore told me to imbue someone because when he did that, his power went back up yet when I did it, my power stayed the same. Also, I decided to do Alpha 7 because I just felt like it but the exhaust thing went into effect.

Karmic Exhaustion reduces the effect of your imbuement to 64%.

Karma Amplification increases the effect of the imbuement by 12%

You have imbued Alpha 7 with 716.8 points of positive karma.

Your Karma Influence Power has been drained, and is now 544.

When I checked my karma page, I saw that he had imbued me today yet I didn't even know it. So do I have to keep a log of all this stuff now? I imbue who I want when I feel like it but it seems if I do that now, they get gypped out of a full blast simply because they gave me karma.


And the most important question of all is, now that we have a power cap, does having all that extra visual power in my sidebar even matter anymore? Is it all over now?

This post has been edited by Tenseigamoon: Apr 17 2009, 20:20

You were converted. If you haven't picked up any auras yet, or you picked different ones, that's why.

You were converted. If you haven't picked up any auras yet, or you picked different ones, that's why.

OK, I just reactivated my auras but I originally had 5 aura slots activated and with this new stuff, I only have 4. I'm missing an aura slot. I even checked a print screen image I'd saved of my old aura page and I compared it to the new page to make sure.

did you get it in the ability window? one of those had to have been from the old skill tree, right?

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\o/ saint, 4th class
lol, thanks hito


This post has been edited by Ebil☆Panda: Apr 17 2009, 20:56

did you get it in the ability window? one of those had to have been from the old skill tree, right?

Ohhh, holy shit! OK, I was able to activate ALL my auras. Whoo, thanks, Pandawhore.

I'm going to have to study all this stuff and familiarize myself with it.


EDIT: Why did my power drop again?!

This post has been edited by Tenseigamoon: Apr 17 2009, 21:06