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post Apr 17 2009, 07:50
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QUOTE(Nayr L. Rosfar @ Apr 17 2009, 01:42) *

Do you like the idea of imbuing someone who has amp maxed with 200 points and it getting nerf'd to 50?

Thats exactly what this will eventually do.

Exhaustion is pointless and does more harm than good.


Seems to be fine if you had to constantly imbue them to get it to drain that much.
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post Apr 17 2009, 07:51
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QUOTE(Nayr L. Rosfar @ Apr 17 2009, 07:42) *
Do you like the idea of imbuing someone who has amp maxed with 200 points and it getting nerf'd to 50?

Thats exactly what this will eventually do.

Exhaustion is pointless and does more harm than good.
No, it will result in people saving their imbuements for when users actually do something worthy, instead of "oh hi, I'll just give you +K every three days for no real reason at all".
When I give you Karma, you have deserved it.

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post Apr 17 2009, 07:53
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QUOTE(BunBun @ Apr 16 2009, 23:50) *

Seems to be fine if you had to constantly imbue them to get it to drain that much.

I think the drain's actually broken. The reduction doesn't apply for everyone you hit right?
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Assuming I've not hit any of these people in the last 30 days:
I hit Panda. 100%
I hit Nayr. 100%
I hit panda again. It should be 96% during this hit.
I hit hazy. It should be 100% right?
I think it's compiling other peoples, so that when I hit hazy there, it does less than 100%.

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post Apr 17 2009, 07:59
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Reasons why we need karma now:

Power. -> Affects battles
Saint levels. -> Affects e-penis size

Reasons why we need karma in the future:

Saint levels. -> Affects e-penis size

Nuff said.
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post Apr 17 2009, 08:08
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My understanding is there is no reset, it is based on the last time you imbued someone. Even though this new system is in place, the old system did record when the last time you imbued a user with Karma. (How else would you get "You imbued this user too recently" messages.) The exhausting is than based on how many days it has been since you imbued. If you imbued the person about 3-4 days ago, only 20% gets through. You wait two weeks and I believe 80% gets through. Not fully sure on the math here unless Tenboro would like to enlighten us.
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post Apr 17 2009, 08:11
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QUOTE(Cyriel @ Apr 17 2009, 13:59) *

Reasons why we need karma now:

Power. -> Affects battles
Saint levels. -> Affects e-penis size

Reasons why we need karma in the future:

Saint levels. -> Affects e-penis size

Nuff said.


Here Here! More Karma, the bigger your e-penis.

It's not about your real penis, it's the e-penis that matters. Like saying to everyone "Ei everybody, I have a fricking, huge e-penis in the e-hentai.org forums. I'm better than u in like, everthing! Yay, me! I matters nao!"

Also, I got negged in my former post in this thread by an anon. Pissed me off but, meh, it happens. Damn slow nao to regenerate my power bar.
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post Apr 17 2009, 08:15
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Apr 17 2009, 01:53) *


I think it's compiling other peoples, so that when I hit hazy there, it does less than 100%.


Nope. It could be a glitch, but it's intended to work and keep track of user, not total.
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post Apr 17 2009, 08:23
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QUOTE(BunBun @ Apr 17 2009, 00:15) *

Nope. It could be a glitch, but it's intended to work and keep track of user, not total.


Guess it's a glitch then, it said the exhaustion caused it to go to 68% when I'd only hit Hazy 5 times earlier (4*5=20% yay math!).
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post Apr 17 2009, 08:33
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QUOTE(BunBun @ Apr 17 2009, 08:15) *

Nope. It could be a glitch, but it's intended to work and keep track of user, not total.


I beg to differ
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Karmic Exhaustion reduces the effect of your imbuement to 96%.

You have imbued hitokiri84 with 384.96 points of positive karma.

Karma Amplification! The effect of the imbuement is increased to 769.92!

Due to the effects of the imbuement, your Karma Influence Power has been temporarily drained, and is now 201.


Last time i gave hito karma was around 3 weeks back or somth when there was no such thing as a new system in place. so he's missing out on 4%. You tell him (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 17 2009, 08:44
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QUOTE(Cyriel @ Apr 17 2009, 01:33) *
Last time i gave hito karma was around 3 weeks back or somth when there was no such thing as a new system in place. so he's missing out on 4%. You tell him (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Not quite 3 weeks ago, but I won't complain about 4% or w/e with that much. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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2009-04-17 06:28 +770 Cyriel - Yey ?
2009-01-31 03:30 +500 Cyriel 12234 Emergency holiday (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 17 2009, 08:45
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QUOTE(Cyriel @ Apr 17 2009, 02:33) *

I beg to differ
Last time i gave hito karma was around 3 weeks back or somth when there was no such thing as a new system in place. so he's missing out on 4%. You tell him (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


It's working perfectly in that way. The system to record has been in place for a long time. You've hit him less than 30 days ago, so it should decay 4%
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post Apr 17 2009, 08:57
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QUOTE(BunBun @ Apr 17 2009, 08:45) *

It's working perfectly in that way. The system to record has been in place for a long time. You've hit him less than 30 days ago, so it should decay 4%


2009-01-31 =/= 30 days ago. Thats 3 months, give or take a few days.
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post Apr 17 2009, 08:58
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Tch, maybe there's a glitch that makes the first imbuement factor into the equation....

Glitch glitch glitch.
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post Apr 17 2009, 09:05
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It's not 4% per time you imbue that person, for some reason it's 4% per person you imbue.
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post Apr 17 2009, 09:10
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No it's not. It's based on how long you imbued a particular person. I just imbued someone for 88% since I had not hit them for a while. If I was to imbue DemonEyesBob right now, I would probably only muster 30% because I imbued him recently. Imbuing one member should not affect imbuing another.
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post Apr 17 2009, 09:11
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QUOTE(bladejtr @ Apr 17 2009, 03:05) *

It's not 4% per time you imbue that person, for some reason it's 4% per person you imbue.


That can't be how it was intended. You wouldn't even be able to imbue 1 member/day without dropping to 0% by the end.
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post Apr 17 2009, 09:34
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QUOTE(BunBun @ Apr 17 2009, 03:11) *

That can't be how it was intended. You wouldn't even be able to imbue 1 member/day without dropping to 0% by the end.

There's a max penalty, but I believe you're correct that it wasn't intended that way.
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post Apr 17 2009, 09:46
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QUOTE(Sonic @ Apr 17 2009, 02:10) *
Imbuing one member should not affect imbuing another.

It doesn't. I just tested it by imbuing 3 random noobs in the intro forum, and there was no reduction from exhaustion.
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post Apr 17 2009, 09:51
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Then how did I get 1 4% exhaustion when negging a guy I've never even noticed before today.
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post Apr 17 2009, 09:59
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QUOTE(Sonic @ Apr 17 2009, 00:12) *

And for the black/white/rainbow aura, what are the new values for those or will the hath page be updated soon with the info? Oh, and any changes to the Jems/Cookie awards?


It was updated some time ago, the new values just weren't applied in the (public) karma code until now.

QUOTE(Deathscythe_X1 @ Apr 17 2009, 00:40) *

But I said many times I would stop with the thread if other ppl just told me he didn't like it. But the only was Noahbody and he never brought those other ppl who disliked the thread too. I mean, only for 1 complaining I won't have stopped, but if 3 or more would have come, I would. I said it many times, and will say it once more, even if it's on fsz, u can tell me if u don't like my posts, I and will stop such an nonsense. I am sorry if many of u ppl disliked the thread. But u could have told me.
I mean, not even tenb complained about it, so I was smelling something like this would come.
But if he wanted, he could just have told me, and it would be closed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


The problem, if you would call it that, wasn't really localized to the thread.

QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Apr 17 2009, 02:32) *

Karmic Exhaustion reduces the effect of your imbuement to 68%.

You have imbued HazyBlueEyes with 309.4 points of positive karma.

She says I've only hit her 5 times in the last 30 days, 6 if you include this imbuement, which does not explain a 32% decrease in imbue power.


It counts both ways. Which is basically what's confusing everyone.

QUOTE(Sonic @ Apr 17 2009, 03:45) *

Personally I think the 30 days should be reduced to 14 days, but other than that, great update.

Two questions though:
1. Is the 14 day between negative imbues still on?


One of the reasons I added it was so I could remove the additional time limit, but I've reduced it to 7 days for now until I get the numbers in.

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2. Would you be willing to add a "Last Imbued" item to the Holy Karma Generator so those of us who are bad with dates can go "Oh, gave him Karma 3 weeks ago".


Guess that wouldn't take too much time.

QUOTE(3d0xp0xy @ Apr 17 2009, 07:33) *

I agree 100 % with the above posts. And don't forget about the Karma Shield. It's an excellent skill to train for assholes, since no one will give you the -K you deserve when a big part of it will be reflected. Increasing the KS potential to 50 % was a very bad move, it should rather be removed altogether. Bad users should get what's coming to them.


It's something I'll consider.

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I also like the idea about Karma Amplification being a double-edged sword.


This is not a bad idea actually. I'm gonna go ahead and stealth patch that when noone's looking.

QUOTE(Nayr L. Rosfar @ Apr 17 2009, 07:42) *

Exhaustion is pointless and does more harm than good.


Does not.
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