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RE: holy/dark > elemental
Non-SG AR: holy/dark > elemental
SG AR: holy/dark >> elemental
RoB: holy/dark >> elemental
Hellfest: holy/dark > elemental
PFUfest: holy/dark > elemental
IW: holy/dark > elemental

(A>B <=> #turns(A) < #turns((IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif))

PFfest bukannya bagusan pakai elemental plus imperil , djack ???

frank melody sama jenga pengecualian buat ini (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

PFfest bukannya bagusan pakai elemental plus imperil , djack ???

frank melody sama jenga pengecualian buat ini (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

========== Battle Data ======================
Wind mage (LV 496):
non-crit magic score: 24101
wind prof: 803 (161.90% prof)
33.2% cast speed bonus
67.9% physical mitigation
64.6% evade chance
Counter-Resist +32.81 %

GFx20 (1000 ROUNDS) LTWD+4 Charged phase+ 1 Charged cotton

[Damage] Average: 3756 / Crushing: 42% / Piercing: 38% / Slashing: 16% / Elec: 0% / Wind: 0% / Fire: 0% / Cold: 0% / Holy: 0%

[Used Item] Spirit Gem: 59 / Mystic Gem: 49 / Health Gem: 47 / Mana Gem: 46 / Mana Elixir: 44 / Health Potion: 25 / Scroll of Protection: 20 / Scroll of Swiftness: 20 / Scroll of Shadows: 20 / Spirit Potion: 14 / Health Draught: 4 / Mana Draught: 3

[Skill & Spell] Imperil: 3514 / Storms of Njord: 980 / Downburst: 735 / Gale: 709 / Cure: 693 / Absorb: 20 / Regen: 11 / Full-Cure: 6 / Arcane Focus: 4

7022 turns (excluding initial 0 round). Average 7.02 turn/round.

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Holy mage (LV 496):
non-crit magic score: 23427
holy prof: 999 (201.4% prof)
12.4% cast speed bonus
67.9% physical mitigation
66.3% evade chance
Counter-Resist +20.00 %

GFx20 (1000 ROUNDS) LHKHF+4 RADIANT/MYSTIC PHASE + 1 COTTON

[Damage] Average: 3950 / Crushing: 43% / Piercing: 36% / Slashing: 17% / Fire: 0% / Cold: 0% / Wind: 0% / Elec: 0% / Holy: 0%

[Used Item] Health Potion: 76 / Spirit Gem: 68 / Health Gem: 66 / Mana Gem: 61 / Mystic Gem: 56 / Spirit Potion: 55 / Mana Draught: 37 / Scroll of Swiftness: 34 / Scroll of Shadows: 34 / Scroll of Protection: 34 / Mana Elixir: 21 / Spirit Draught: 21 / Spirit Elixir: 12 / Health Elixir: 9

[Skill & Spell] Smite: 2492 / Banishment: 1522 / Paradise Lost: 1017 / Cure: 986 / Full-Cure: 54 / Absorb: 28 / Regen: 20 / Arcane Focus: 6

6711 turns (excluding initial 0 round). Average 6.71 turn/round.

tau soal itu djack , tapi frank kan pakai full charged bukan full radiant phase buat elemental setnya (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

tau soal itu djack , tapi frank kan pakai full charged bukan full radiant phase buat elemental setnya (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

MD
holy/dark t1 = elemental t1
holy/dark t2 = elemental t2
holy/dark t3 > elemental t3

MD
holy/dark t1 = elemental t1
holy/dark t2 = elemental t2
holy/dark t3 > elemental t3

elemental gearnya lebih murah daripada holy apalagi top tier radiant kayak punya frank melody , djack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

elemental gearnya lebih murah daripada holy apalagi top tier radiant kayak punya frank melody , djack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Peerless Charged Phase Pants of Niflheim 80m

Peerless Charged Phase Pants of Niflheim 80m

tetep blom semahal holy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

udah jadi dark set lu nob?

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but if u see the potion consumptions, holy mages are having a harder time.
even @ninfest Im having a hard time struggling at round 500+, dont know about u though, my set isnt fully forged,

BTW, with ur current set, how many turns do u need to clear PF DwD?
Im the same with nobody, around 2500 turns.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

but if u see the potion consumptions, holy mages are having a harder time.

Forging WIS helps. My mp pots has a positive gain on a daily basis.

even @ninfest Im having a hard time struggling at round 500+, dont know about u though, my set isnt fully forged,

I don't play much GF other than Hellfest and PFUfest.
I can cruise through Hellfest without scrolls. In PFUfest I start using scrolls at round 500+.

BTW, with ur current set, how many turns do u need to clear PF DwD?
Im the same with nobody, around 2500 turns.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

nob's 2500 turns is at Nintendo, not PFUDOR.
PFUDOR DwD takes me 2100 ~ 2200 turns, pretty much the same as KINOSHITAMIKOTO (someone with a fully forged Peerless Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall and a few radiant pieces).
There is some dark mage with Æsahættr perk who's able to clear PFUDOR DwD in similar #turns.

This post has been edited by djackallstar: Oct 30 2016, 15:53

udah jadi dark set lu nob?
but if u see the potion consumptions, holy mages are having a harder time.
even @ninfest Im having a hard time struggling at round 500+, dont know about u though, my set isnt fully forged,

BTW, with ur current set, how many turns do u need to clear PF DwD?
Im the same with nobody, around 2500 turns.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

dah 3 minggu lebih , dip (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

mendingan hellfest ~ lebih nyantai lebih cepet dikit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Forging WIS helps. My mp pots has a positive gain on a daily basis.
I don't play much GF other than Hellfest and PFUfest.
I can cruise through Hellfest without scrolls. In PFUfest I start using scrolls at round 500+.
nob's 2500 turns is at Nintendo, not PFUDOR.
PFUDOR DwD takes me 2100 ~ 2200 turns, pretty much the same as KINOSHITAMIKOTO (someone with a fully forged Peerless Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall and a few radiant pieces).
There is some dark mage with Æsahættr perk who's able to clear PFUDOR DwD in similar #turns.

err , I need 2400 turns with 4+1 build in IWBTH DwD , djack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
( that with unforged 1 phase slot ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


nintendo DwD biasanya sekitar 1600~1700 turns tergantung imperil SG pakai 3+2 build (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



berhubung gw males maen high difficulty sekarang , yah mentok arena nintendo sekarang (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


cuman perlu 1 jam lebih dikit buat hampir semua arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Forging WIS helps. My mp pots has a positive gain on a daily basis.
I don't play much GF other than Hellfest and PFUfest.
I can cruise through Hellfest without scrolls. In PFUfest I start using scrolls at round 500+.
nob's 2500 turns is at Nintendo, not PFUDOR.
PFUDOR DwD takes me 2100 ~ 2200 turns, pretty much the same as KINOSHITAMIKOTO (someone with a fully forged Peerless Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall and a few radiant pieces).
There is some dark mage with Æsahættr perk who's able to clear PFUDOR DwD in similar #turns.

not only potions issue, but also too much curing..
well, maybe u could say I dont really play GF, I only clear hell/nin fest 1-2 times ever, and never even try clearing PFest.
My damage perk is only @lv1 aka DD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I guess fully forged super expensive peerless set plus 30% damage perk isnt going to make that much different comparing with the cost difference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
BTW, I had tried using flower vase and bubble gum, u can clear DwD sper fast (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

dah 3 minggu lebih , dip (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

mendingan hellfest ~ lebih nyantai lebih cepet dikit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
err , I need 2400 turns with 4+1 build in IWBTH DwD , djack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
( that with unforged 1 phase slot ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
nintendo DwD biasanya sekitar 1600~1700 turns tergantung imperil SG pakai 3+2 build (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
berhubung gw males maen high difficulty sekarang , yah mentok arena nintendo sekarang (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
cuman perlu 1 jam lebih dikit buat hampir semua arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

PF juga sekitar itu buat clear semua arena, ga jauh beda turn/round nya juga, mending sekalian PF kalo arena.
link set donk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Kenanga: Oct 30 2016, 16:18

soal turns terbaik buat SG , mendingan tanya GC ( dark ) atau frank ( holy ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

but if u see the potion consumptions, holy mages are having a harder time.

Even my focus staff + 2frugal prof. pieces still get minus mp pot from all arenas run (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
For GF (1 frugal prof. piece), I seldom get positive mp pot. Mostly I get minus but not much (~20 per run)

In PFUfest I start using scrolls at round 500+.

Good to know this even a full-forged set still start at round 500+. So I do my set right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Mine is medium-forged and start using scrolls at round 450+

Even my focus staff + 2frugal prof. pieces still get minus mp pot from all arenas run (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
For GF (1 frugal prof. piece), I seldom get positive mp pot. Mostly I get minus but not much (~20 per run)
Good to know this even a full-forged set still start at round 500+. So I do my set right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Mine is medium-forged and start using scrolls at round 450+

since you use 4+1 ~ imperil style , aria (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

well , I have plus mana pot from daily basis playing now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

only have eco3 in my staff ~ minus a little in arenas but positive in hellfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Oct 30 2016, 16:39

not only potions issue, but also too much curing..
well, maybe u could say I dont really play GF, I only clear hell/nin fest 1-2 times ever, and never even try clearing PFest.
My damage perk is only @lv1 aka DD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I guess fully forged super expensive peerless set plus 30% damage perk isnt going to make that much different comparing with the cost difference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
BTW, I had tried using flower vase and bubble gum, u can clear DwD sper fast (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
PF juga sekitar itu buat clear semua arena, ga jauh beda turn/round nya juga, mending sekalian PF kalo arena.
link set donk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

gw kan maen sambil nonton movie plus ping kagak stabil belakangan , dip (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

bisa lebih cepet kalo gw pakai reloader mod sapo cuman males susah nonton movies / TV series (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)



stuck di 22,7k magic score saat ini di 3+2 build ( 1.0 prof ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Oct 30 2016, 16:41

using flower vase and bubble gum

I tried it once on PFUDOR-fest. It worked good. I use 30 each of them and 4-5 mp pot.

since you use 4+1 ~ imperil style , aria (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I use
4+1 (0.71 prof. factor) imperil style on GF
4+2 (1.0 prof. factor) non-imperil style on non-SG arenas
5+0 (0.37 prof. factor) imperil style on SG arenas

I tried it once on PFUDOR-fest. It worked good. I use 30 each of them and 4-5 mp pot.
I use
4+1 (0.71 prof. factor) imperil style on GF
4+2 (1.0 prof. factor) non-imperil style on non-SG arenas
5+0 (0.37 prof. factor) imperil style on SG arenas

4+2 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

err , I need 2400 turns with 4+1 build in IWBTH DwD , djack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

My bad.

not only potions issue, but also too much curing..

Not that bad considering the total number of turns needed is lower than elemental's.

BTW, I had tried using flower vase and bubble gum, u can clear DwD sper fast (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Also works well in PFUfest, about 2500 turns for holy with 3+2.

4+2 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Nah, it was a typo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

My bad.
Not that bad considering the total number of turns needed is lower than elemental's.
Also works well in PFUfest, about 2500 turns for holy with 3+2.

isn't your income will become very low with gum and vase spams ( 25~30 for each item ) ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

1 vase @3500
1 gum @4000

( current price in WTB ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

let's say you use 30 for each item ~ so , for gum and vase alone cost around 225k ( + 186k ED cost ) = 411k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


with cryst5 ~ 6 packs x36k ( current crystal price in WTB ) = 216k
artifacts ~ 5 to 10+ with full drop training ( let's say 8 on average ) x21k ( WTB again ) = 168k
credits ~ fullrun around 50+k = 50k

that nearly equal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


well , you still have income from equipments drop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


this with full drop training and cryst5 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

+93k income if you have LGBD perk for first run (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Oct 30 2016, 17:09